All right. Hey folks really started here at 703 Eastern 603 Central today. We're talking about keeping the pedal to the metal in the write-up. I talked about Chad. Our our resident is race car guy. He doesn't eighth of a mile in four seconds. One thing. He talks about is don't lift off, right so is everybody thinks about the start? You know, the the lights go down the little Christmas tree, it goes to green and then he pushes the gas pedal. When the time you start getting toward the end, if you take your foot off the pedal you lift, then you're going to not win. Well, it's late season for most of us. It's actually almost done season for the people in Arkansas like Matt and Rob but the point is you can't afford to take your foot off the pedal and it was Rob at the AG PhD at the at the hefty's event. Last week said something really smart. He said that dollar you're spending. In August that dollar you're spending on amendments and treatments is this is the cheapest dollar you're gonna spend now whether Rob said that or somebody else I can't really remember but the point is it was a smart statement. The idea is you've already got a lot of invested. So you might be tempted saying like Kelly talked about. Hey, man, my line of credits getting depleted. I'm getting tired screw it the corns made the soybeans are done. Well, that's not necessarily true. So what we're talking about today is keeping the pedal to the metal the stuff that these guys do late season to guarantee a win meaning to get the big Harvest. So we're gonna take that and since I started with Chad and used him as my example and he's the guy driving and even moment. He'll probably be in a bad spot and the road in Illinois and you won't have a signal. So right now Chad lead us off. What do you do late season in late season for you is probably about a few weeks ago, right? That's right. That's right. It was you know, we made our our last fungicide. You know about a week and a half ago or so. What do you do? You think some people do not when we're at your place in Madison, Alabama you said? Hey, man, if you want to just phone it in have the co-op come out and spray your stuff and you'll get to maybe you know a certain level but then if you really want to bust, you know, ring the bell you got to do this to get to the next level and then when you're trying to do what you're doing, which is set yield records you're doing a bunch more stuff. So what do you think you're doing three weeks ago for your final pass that maybe the neighbors are not Well, you know a lot of it's there's a lot of fungicide that goes on in our air but most time it's Fungicide and sex side. That's our normal practice. Well, then, you know, you're you might as well you're going so you might as well load the plane up, you know, or whether they've got a high clearance sprayer or whatever. We don't wish we did but you know, we're gonna put some kind of packaging in you know, whether it's you know, insert or feet line or or something like that, you know natural Ultra from age for you know, there's several products from a lot of these good companies that old that you can do that with so we'll do that. We're gonna have that I started with more run I'm gonna finish before and I'll wait through so, you know that and then we might actually have some more stuff too. You know, we can just goes deep down to go, you know, but but definitely don't forget look at you samples. You didn't come my way through and finish with locate so and we're gonna get on into it, but those are some things we do. Um, by the way, I knew that I could count on you being in a car for this recording and I knew you would bring up Boron because Wendell bulgee just about he just about gets some sort of arousal going on when you're on the line because I know that you're going to talk about boron. All right. So what are we doing? What are we doing temple in your part of the world? You know, you're a little you're a little more North you're in the Eastern Shore, Maryland and late season for you is probably about right now. Yes. Impulse put in further down. I'm gonna I talk too much on this. So I'm just going to take a solid pass. It you're the syndic guy you're going it said you're gonna get to send it tattooed on your arm with Chad. Yeah, me and Chad are gonna get that. So I was going to chat about this earlier. I said, I still think that you're yeah, let's go ahead and we're gonna take a hard note on that one. All right. What are you doing Lacey lazy for you as a week ago. Yeah, actually, we're still kind of late season. We're still making passes across corn and so it means early beings. So I guess the one thing that I would say for all of us is um, we always are trying to be proactive never reactive you mean that's kind of the the time thing that we followed all along. And I think that you never you can't ever stop thinking about your plan help. I make multiple Paces upon your side. I'm making another late season pass of Fungicide and in there. I'm always dumping a bunch of sugar in there. I talked to Kelly yesterday about you know, and Rob about hidden kelp to it to help to try Drive some more nutrients into that plant. You need to know. What that plan is requireing at the time that we're at, you know, so one of the things that plants require is a lot of potassium, you know still spoon feeding. The Boron just like Chad said I always put a little bit of something in there that adds a little bit of phosphorus because it adds energy to the plan, you know, still giving it a little taste of zinc. So, I mean it's kind of all over package but I think that what everybody needs to remember is is without the fungicides and the sexides on there. It's not going to do you any good to do all these things because we're still trying to drive that plant Health just like Kelly said, you know, we've never seen a stress feet point a stress free playing you know, and if we don't have that plan Health all these things that we're doing is kind of for nothing so I would say, you know, Don't take your path no matter what the fungicides and insecticides because that's what's going to keep your plant open and available to accept what else you're going to give it. Are you done this thing that's happening right now and then are you done? No, I'll probably make another pay us. I'll just talking chat about that today, you know kind of when we get all the way done all the way done and we get to the end of it all and I'm like man. I think I'm pretty much done. We kind of go through back through our chemical buildings and we go what's left in here. We'll clean this here. So we'll see we actually talked about that today. So I mean that does happen. But I mean we have a plan up until then and that's pretty much where our plan is like just I'm gonna go over to your your bestie that you talk to every day Rob Deadman, Rob at what point is it you're not doing any job. You're not you're not even helping what at what point just because you got chemical laying around or something laying around the shed at what point is it? Like what the hell? Why bother When does it just wasting Fuel and and resources because it's not gonna give you anything. I think that's from every crop. You know how much more weight can we pack in there, you know R6 on soybeans when the veins are touching in the pot. They just about gain the maximum seat weight. They're gonna gain at that point in time. Probably too late, then, you know look at R5 on corn. And we've just about started we're forming the Stars. We're starting to form the milk line in there and all that, you know, probably a little too late at that point in time to make any difference. We've got to be at point in time and he's plants when we can when we can influence them. You know, I like the idea of finishing strong, you know, we've heard the same start strong. We finished strong. I was telling Matt prior to start Nest webinar. I said, you know, I look at these plants when we're when we're doing all the stuff we do to them, you know, we start out we within for us and we start out with with granular nutrition and then foliar nutrition and all the things we do we're create a drug addict and right here at the end if we take that drugs away from it, then we started into to withdrawals and I mean when you take a plant and put it into withdrawals, you're gonna call us plant accountable as itself. So you start it. You've got to finish it. So by the way, I'm not sure that that's really what we're supposed to be doing. We're not supposed to be careful comparing our crops to junkies, but Chad's big on sugar when we were in Madison. We shot sugar. We everybody knows that the end you put on fungicide, right? They're doing it around here right now. It's like Vietnam outside my house here. There's so many crop dusters flying around this last week or so, but here's the thing. Everybody does fungicide Chad rattled off like four different things. He also does on his last pass is sugar in the in the mix Chan. To know if the base, you know, it's a lot of things sometimes Damian, you know, we just take for granted because we're we just keep rambling on what we're doing or not doing but you know sugars always Entertain You know from start to finish. She's just a coating agent or that to help help it take in what we what we're putting out there so sugar definitely. All right. So you do sugar every time you go out with a spray rig you're putting sugar in Yeah, that's or you know, we don't know, you know, we might go. Flavors don't you know, we're not always on the same. Okay, you're coming a bad spot. All right, Matt picking up where Rob left off depending on the crop. What's what's the last thing that you did with your corn? You were obviously your harvesting are you could be harvesting it now? Because you're so far south. What's the last thing you did with corn and wind and why? Uh, you know, to be honest with you. The last thing we did with corn was pretty tassel and we put a big load on there. It's got a combination of pgr sugar fungicide insecticide and then we'll come back about R3 and and address it at that point. And like I can't remember who said it earlier. But you know looking at the soil samples and say where we are. But and then on our own soybeans are five, you know, I think we can still you know, where I was talking about the times when it's too late and we're we're cutting corn a little bit now and we've already cut a few soybeans. We're going to decate some more next week, but you know our files probably the last time that you can really get a benefit out of out of you know, any kind of products and that's just for seed size only what's the product you put on in our five. It'll be a it'll be a pgr and some kind of fertility and you know, depending on if we need to insecticide and that gets us a little bit. A bundle sometimes and that's something Rob and I are working on so at R5 If we still haven't gotten our insecticide trigger, which will be you know, basically stink bugs. should we do an R5 application of for seed size even if we know in two weeks we're gonna have to go back and spray insecticide so that when a lot of farmers deal with that is to you know, we're gonna piggyback everything and well, we're at R3 and we're putting out our you know, our big loads of you know, Now your brake lighter. 30 fertility product around chest taught me to run over time up every time I go I guess I'm my internet still good. It was it was a little dicey there for a minute. So just go ahead and say that last couple sentences. Yeah, what we're trying to figure out is even though we're going at at the, you know at the R3 with this big load and we may spray stink bugs that are six. Should we do the R5 application to increase seat size? You know, so that's gonna be three applications on the bees with an aerial applicator at that point so that we're still working on that. Now your first two your first two treatments on the beans are with a spray rig and you'll only your last ones with aerial, right? The R3 is normally with a with the aerial. I'll simply because our Beans by the inner at least, you know from waste to to just high and I mean, we're not we cut the February beans the other day. We did some tests on the sprayer tracks now, we're 38 inch twin row and you know, we were coming up with about a bushel 1.15 to 1.2 bushel per acre decrease in yield. With the sprayer tracks when we did our desk. So we we normally run a aerial applicator at the R3 stage. And a lot of times we're irrigating anyway, so the fields may be wet, you know from our irrigation. Got it. Hey, anybody has a question if you are on this panel and you are maybe you're watching the panel and you have a question. Remember we can raise your hand and we'll take your question or you can also type it into the comments thing and we'll make sure we get it read. So if you want to be part of the discussion we welcome it because that's why you're here. That's why we're here Kelly Garrett. I was just up in Iowa last week. It seemed like that was we're getting close to end of season. When you're not yelling at your truck drivers for getting violations with the Department of Transportation, what is it you're doing in your fields at this time of year. You know, we have made our fungicide pass in both corn and beans which consists of obviously a fungicide consists of a pgr consists of micros. We want to have copper and Molly in those micros for sure to go with that pgr. It also will consist of you know, some other plant Health type products plant stress products Shield would be the one that we would use potentially terramar has also been used in the past. We have put potassium acetate with that as well this year. We're gonna make another Pass based on our forecast, you know from the Weather Service that I subscribe to We Believe the second half of August, we're gonna get some rain the first half of August here is been quite hot things are shutting down and I I believe without further action. We're gonna have smaller being or smaller kernel size. So we pulled the potassium acetate out of those are to our three passes and we're gonna come back in at Let's call it R 4.7. If we have to be exact to have a perfect world and we're going to make another application of that time of a micro and a k, you know, the K product from spraytech will most likely be what a lot of it is because of availability and because of price and then they're all be some micros to go along with that at that time is when we're having kernel fill and podfill and I want to make that plant hungry and if it's wet, I believe it'll pull there'll be more exades pushed out. It'll pull more K up in there and we're gonna increase the seed size Kevin had some success with that last year. I feel I have the same type of conditions this year and I'm going to give it a shot. So here's a question, by the way. It just gonna happen yet. You just talked about the filling the pods and whatnot. That's good. That's not here. It is. It's August 4th right now. It ain't happened yet. It's gonna happen and no we put we have made all the fungicide passes, but we pulled the potassium acetate out and we are waiting and now the forecast we got today it always comes on Thursday afternoon next week. We'll be making those applications which is gonna make people talk, but that's not the first time we've done that but I believe we will have bigger grain size because of it. You're going to take a shot you're going over. Your Acres of let's be like a fourth time. Yeah, I we won't go we'll go over all of the beans for sure, but we won't go over quite all over the corn will identify the corn Acres that have a potential to be a nice crop. I know there's two fields of corn. I know I won't go over for sure. Okay. So the point is still going over almost all your stuff, which is a lot. Right, and that's a fourth time. It's a fourth pass and then you talk about iron blight meaning you're curvy Hilly Fields. You drive over a bunch of your crop. You're gonna do this with a spray rigor you're doing this area. The corn will be Ariel and the the bean the beat, you know, the tram lines in the beans are already out there. I'm sure we'll damage a little something but the tram lines in the Beats after speaking in Jackson Tennessee at Johnny Burrell's Farm. We're Chad and I were at I'm interested in doing some of it with a drone there's a drone service there and I think there could be something to that. I was kind of fascinated by that. I'm add some yeah Damon. I want to say one thing. So what we're Kelly brought up with the Heat and the seed size. So we've cut up we've cut our February beans and but I've looked at a lot of our beans we planted a March and we've cut a little bit of corn and Seed size is definitely the heat is destroyed that I mean, yeah, what I'm really excited to see is how is our seed size compared to maybe a farmer that didn't do anything. You know, this is going to be the Telltale year did some of these products really increase seed size. Even though ours is lower than it was last year. You know, we've had the hottest June in July on record. I think in a hundred years don't quote me on that. But but I really think that's what I heard last and you know, even though you know, we're looking at really hot temperatures and we're looking at smaller seed size. Is it still going to be bigger than what the average is and that's what we're really excited to see this year. Rob since you are the agronomic consultant and we'll have a question after this because I got a question in the queue perhaps you're the agronomic consultant to Miles Farms. Finish off what Matt just talked about with seed size and the Heat and and then by the way also stress mitigation Kelly's the only person to talk about using a stress mitigation product in late season, I guess I want to know if that's happening anywhere else. You know we used a little bit. of stress mitigators It's they're still new for us. We're still working with which ones really do work for us a lot. Which ones are we getting the biggest bang for the buck out of but you know, the biggest problem like Matt said we're facing right now. It's extreme heat and and it's daytime heat but what really kills us is the night time eight. And the humidity and when we had those not those High night kind of Peace, we're not only gonna lose seed size. We're gonna lose seat quality. You know, we look at the rice. We're looking at Milling Milling qualities on Rice this year that I think are going to be hurt, you know, five five to seven points and We saw it in the in the February veins, you know that the the heat that we had there during Pottsville was was pretty extreme on them. And and it cost smaller sea size. Now when we take our later season beans that we're we're gonna start to educating like next week, you know, so now we're three weeks we're talking about three weeks difference. How much is that heat gonna influence that seat size, you know, we've gotten into a little more normal type climate the last couple of weeks we've gotten away from those, you know, hundred and fifteen hundred and twenty degree heat index type days. Um, we're picking up hours. Are we going to maintain that seat size? I think that's to be determined. But but we did see on some as earlier crop definitely in the corn those first things that we could smaller seat size are the Gators as much of a threatens 115 degree heat index or they just kind of hang in the shade. Worse threaded 115 than they are at B. But I will the diamond I want to say one thing on stress mitigators and I agree with Kelly a hundred percent but a stress mitigator. Can be fertility. It can be plant timing. You know all this is a is in Mark Coates and I talked today about this stress mitigation includes stress mitigation products, but it is a complete process of from the day one. When you plan to see to what you do with it. Our five beans are all three on corn, you know, keeping that plant happy. Maybe you know fungicide is a stress mitigator, right good weather is a stress mitigator irrigation is a stress mitigator. So sometimes we get hung up on. You know a stress mitigation product and I think they help because Lee and Kelly approved that you know, you can drive by their fields versus their neighbors fields and you know, there's a big difference but stress mitigation is not just a product. It's a process from planting to to harvest by the way that way that's that's amazing. And that's the subject that we plan to address in September's Webinar September 8th, we're doing deer listener and viewer. We were doing our extreme AG webinar on Thursday, September 8th at 7 o'clock Eastern six o'clock Central and the subject is going to be stress mitigation because it's one of Kelly's main goals this year. And as Matt said, it's not just one product. It's entirely everything that you do that is positive for the crop is then thereby a stress mitigation practice where we talk about that September 8th. All right, let's go back to this a question that we never got to although I saw Temple was nodding when Matt was talking. Yeah something Temple. Um, there was something that they were talking about seed size and seeds quality something that we came up with years ago. We were we were learning that in our area there's a lot of vegetable crops grown in the in our area and in order to add to shelf life of vegetables. They ate a lot of calcium in drip in Furrow, all these other different things. So we started Aid in calcium products as we're going along, you know in calibers one of them if piggybacks off a boron and there's other ways to get them into the plant and although we don't do a very good job of getting it in fogular. It's rather would be in in the soil. But what I'm saying is is we've improved seed quality by just adding calcium the the lying on the outside of the seeds is horror more dense and the seed quality can become much better by eating cast him as you go throughout the year, you know. Chad talks about adding Boron all throughout the year. I'm adding like a product kind of like Cowboys calcium and Boron. That's what I'm doing. I'm adding that all along and what we've seen is this added a lot to RC quality. Now, does that come right back to seed size? You know, that's to be determined. I don't know if that would help Matt and Rob down there, but it may be one of the things that could help them. calcium Yeah. We talked about we gotta have calcium to make all the other fertility work. I mean, do you agree Rob? I think calcium's before you do anything else. You've got to have the calcium. And I think how awesome along with sulfurs two of the main transport magazines into the plant to move other nutrients around in the plant. We're seeing a big response this year by adding calcium. We've made the story the skeletal system of a soybean much stronger with a V2 application. And then as we're taking soil samples and things like that in our irrigation and we're putting calcium through the drip irrigation. We can see the available calcium in the soil go up it really skyrockets and it it takes other nutrients with it. I would agree a hundred percent it extremely important one of the things we talked about when we're in your farm last week Kelly was the building a skeleton building a skeletal structure and the lower beans and one of the points you made was that you might have had way in excess of 100 bushel beans, but when you in heaven look at the field all the lower Branches, but had fallen down the ground you couldn't in the right underneath your Draper and I would agree with temple. You know, he just said that when you had calcium he can see it in the the colonel size of the seed size were where we had that V2 trial. It was liberate CA where we had that trial. You can see a physical difference in the plants. It is glossier. It looked it glossy or shinier. Not only when you apply pressure with your finger your hand are the branches much stronger, but there's a physical difference in the viewing of that plant just like he's talking about the kernels. I would agree without a hundred percent. Last time Ellie I got a question for Kelly real quick. Is that just that the same application used the product to help get it into the plane hit get the calcium into plant. No, well, it was just a V2 application. The only thing was in there was liberate because we wanted to see what it would do to the skeleton system. Liberate see I've got two questions here and no Kelly for sure can answer them because they're about pgr. And whoever else wants to hop on on the pgr questions. The first one's from Andy human fall down the road from me here in Indiana. new member and eventhal says what pgr should not be used late season what pgr should not be used what plant growth hormone or a regulator are we not going to use late season? And and that's both corn beans. Am I got anything? But I don't think it anything, you know, I think using make it grow or complex at vegetation or reproductive is fine. But I would say at reproduction a product like onward inertia or energize those products are more Geared for Reproductive time. I would be a better choice, but I don't think that if a grower didn't have access to those and they wanted to use Mega grower complex twice. I think that would be entirely fine. And I think you'll see a yield gain from that. So nobody has any recommendations saying don't use this late season because there's no problems within this stuff that we've used. Anyhow, the stuff that we've used we got no restriction or advice to not use a Lacey's Hey tip. What about Temple? What about radiate? We don't really use radiate late says to do it. No, no, I'm I'll tell you this one because I I did this before this was years ago when we were trying all these different products all these different pgrs. You got to be a little bit careful on on On radiate it's a two-strand it what ends up happening is is if you put it on late in the season, you're going to add to your your caught your cop shank and it'll it'll drive it way out and then you won't get any tip fill on it. So it doesn't do you any good. So it kind of it gives the plant the wrong triggers. So you have to be very very careful of it. So you want to drop back. So Mega grow in Furrow drive a big root system Mega grow on your first Pious. I'll get again radiate can be used the same type of way. It's a two strand on your first place where her massage that's a great that that's exactly where I use it. That's where we get over bang for a buck out of it. And then we come back in with a with a reproductive one like our own Max or our show. There's a bunch of them in there three strings and they're built for reproduction. They're built to hold on to viable following They're built to hold on to blossoms. They're built to not abort blossoms and pods. That's what they're built for. So you want to be very careful to use them in that matter. I think another thing that needs to be thought about with pgrs is and I had a conversation with Lee about it. I'm was really skeptical. I never did it in the past never put it to a test. But you know that whole weather thing, you know, are you already dry if you're already dry. Do you really want to be putting on a pgo or probably not a great idea doing reproductive to try to do that early on you know, Mega grow is a defensive mechanism. Yes. It's exactly the right place to put that on you get in a late season where you're dry things don't look well. It's an offensive thing. It's probably the wrong place to put it in. So along with all these other things that we need to talk about. You really need to take an account that what's going on in your area the weather and what Are looking at in the past 20 days and the future ten days before you make an application. Well, then there's two different kinds of pdrs. There's a natural, you know one like complex as a natural pgr. So it it has a plan take what it has and and try to rebuild that and then you got synthetic pgrs, like like onward or or Energizer or in our show, so you've got to kind of have a happy medium or a happy mix of what goes on there. I know where the natural pgr. You can apply that anytime you want to you can apply that our five or six on beans or three or five on corn and it's not going to have a negative effect, but some of these synthetic pgr, so you're making the plant say You know, you're forcing the plans kind of like, you know, Rob talked about the cocaine addict. You're you're forcing a plan to say I've got to do this and there's certain stages in the plant where maybe that plant don't need to try to do that. So, you know, we're dealing with a couple different types of pgr that, you know, that that promote growth or promote yield or whatever. So it's kind of tricky at times kind of like desiccation. It's it's not always a science as much as it is an art. What? Hey Jad, you got your back to having your camera on and you apparently have a signal. And I know you're overwhelmed because you've been in an eye state where we have topsoil organic matter. All those kinds of things. You don't have there in Alabama, but on your drive back and now you guys signal what do you got to kick in here on this pgr discussion. Do you do you have anything contribute to the pgr questions? the way that you know one last thing, you know, we're big heavy users of you know, which we just started using something killing him to make a girl this year like it is so far, you know, but we've always last two or three years been pretty heavy users of the complex from Marcus, you know, because it's just so much in I'm still learning about these things yours and it's so much easier and safer. It's you can I don't know if you can ever miss it up, you know, we've had some trials out. And I know some other fellas that push your limit pretty good had some trials out of way up in the rates of it. And you know, you can just put it all the way up to where it takes pocketbook. But you know, even the last trip we have complex in it. I mean that was you know at 2200 gdu on corn we still put out complex. I'm gonna go to some questions here. He didn't even comment about though being in a nice date. Are you? Okay? I mean are you gonna bill is this like you're gonna go home now, you're gonna look around and just be like Pissed that you don't have what they have over there in Champaign. Turn your mic on turn your mic on. I'm pretty sure that Was pretty good comment. Tell me that one more time last year. I heard every word. That's are you gonna be pissed that you're gonna go right to the point. I don't have any business growing corn in Alabama. I don't from the corner making Kevin and Daniel Crossing Mississippi river headed to Champaign up to Theory and in you know, a leftover Drive drove across Indiana. I mean, it's beautiful. I mean it is absolutely beautiful to Orange dark green the bottom of plants, you know, and I'm like, I don't know why I'm sorry, you know, but one of these days I'm gonna grow me just a little bit of corn and I stay hey, I don't know my clothes out. I put them on my backpack up with dirt and I brought it home. All right. I got a question from Nick Johnson. He says what pgr are being sprayed at the are for our five stage and soybeans. I think we kind of hit that already. But anyway and our four or five on soybeans what plant growth regulator are using I mean, I think on soybeans that that stage you can use either to synthetic or the natural and and be okay with either one. So, you know, it's kind of pick your poison on what you want to what you want to go be with and you know Caleb's question. That's the next one on there. You know, I agree with Caleb on that. It don't like the mega grow. You can you can mess some stuff up if you take some of those and use them later season. Okay, so somebody that's not seeing what Caleb typed Caleb typed in how oxen dominated products like radiating major Grill can cause corner to me is when applied late vegetative or reproductive stages and corny make anything that add to that. Simple I witnessed that happening. It happened to me. So that's a hundred percent true. It happened to me. This is back before they really knew it are at our nutrient really where radiate really fell in I use onward Max is what I use on my late season stuff. I've been making out very well with it. I've also used inertia. They also works very well. I've used I used a bunch of it this year. So there's a bunch of products that that work really really well. only thing I can say was a pgr is is if anybody has any questions and they really want to ask anybody call anybody in this group because every one of us have used them all and we've all made mistakes and we're all just figuring it all out now. So we're we're now getting ahead of the Curve. But this diamond the pgrs have made a big difference in our in our beans. I mean, I don't know if Robert agree with that or not and probably in our corn too but starting to use those we didn't use those two years ago any And we started using complex and and energized and inertia and you know onward and they there's a difference there. You just got to know when to use them and we're still working with that. But you know, they work I'll just say they do work. Another question and this is really about the kind of year. We're having or maybe it's every year getting foliar products to be absorbed by a plant when it's exceedingly hot or dry. So Jeremy Bedford wants to know do you just avoid spraying at certain times of day or do you stop spraying if you're air temperatures get too hot. I'd imagine with it. You're like you've had Matt. You can't avoid heat hardly at all. So is there is there a trick to getting foliar applied stuff to absorb do you just try and do it in the evenings anything we're spraying whether it's a cotton part cotton insecticide any kind of foliar anything we're doing and 121 degree heat index. We're doing that in the morning. So if we can't get a slot with air with the arrow applicator in the morning, we wait till the next day and increase in your water increasing, you know gallons per acre plus doing it. We've got to do it before it's 95 degrees when you're when you're less than 95 degrees. You can get pretty good grow and this year we in had a lot of that but when we get to 10 11 12 o'clock, you know in the day, we'll shut it down and the thing is you think about the evenings but here in in southeast Arkansas even in the evenings, you know, we're still hundred. Plus so yeah, we're just spraying from say daylight till 10:00 o'clock in the morning. I haven't you really got you only got like a fort you're really about it's about four hours a day during the hot sign that you're actually covering your acres and if we can't get that four hours and we went to the next day. Yeah, anybody else got anything? I mean, it's not just hot down in Arkansas. You know, it's hot in Iowa sometimes too. It's hot in Maryland. So you guys think We don't when it's hot out. You probably gonna stop spraying at 10 o'clock in the morning something, you know, something like I mean that's not a definitive answer but you know, that's when it starts to warm up here and you're gonna go out spray til then then you're gonna shut it down. Same thing as Matt, okay. I think a good rule of thumb on spraying in the heat. You're really bad side and maybe. You didn't say it again you were breaking up. I said if you're in 60 and then when you look at keeping our products in the job, okay, when the Ambient Air Temperature and the humidity combined equal 160 or more Don't Spray. That's right. Okay. And you know what we even have that here in Northeast, Indiana. All right, I'll say this just so y'all talk taught us is for the listeners when you see us get off the video. It's because we're getting internet unstable and we'll told us to stop our video. Hey, so by the way, dear listeners and viewers, please type in anything. You want to hear from us from the guys here about late season keeping the pedal metal. All right, keep the pedal the metal Temple. Yep, you you said you sometimes just go and look at the chemical shed and see what you got laying around. I know you're more method. I mean, I know you let's go. Let's go. What what's real when you go out? Okay. Are you go out and see something? When do you decide? It's too late. When do you say you know what? I want to keep my pillow metal, but I'm afraid I'm just wasting money. How do you make that decision? Um, I mean, I I honestly probably push it a little bit too far. The one thing I will tell you is that and I don't know that that we really talked about this enough in this group, but corn and beans are treated very very differently. It's a completely different environment loans a monocot loans to die cut and I don't treat them the same and I think a lot of people think that we treat those plants the same all the time and I think the reason that Matt Groves really good beans the reason that I've probably separated myself as well. Grown a little bit better beans is because we're able to we've definitely taken a different. Step to Growing beans and what we do corn it's a completely different scale and I might. Ride beans out a little bit further than we're I'll stop with corn. You mean like I'll ride horn all the way to Black layer. I'll damn near ride beans until they die. Read me right. What do you mean ride for the person is tuned in for the first time or maybe they're like Riley. They're Canadian. They don't understand your vernacular. What's what's right. What are you talking about? So I'll keep going back over the top and I'll keep taking tissue samples right up until the very end. And if I think that it's lacking in something now, I'll also even if it's lacking in something I'll also put in the whole perspective of what's my weather. Like what's my last 20 days look like what's my next 10 days look like what do I know at this particular time with this plant needs whether it's a potassium acetate at the very end, whether it's you know, trying to get just a little bit more energy in that plant right out to the end to keep it alive. I'll do all of those things to try to boost yield but then you got to put back in there like is your return on your investment gonna be there and I'll and I'll keep that in in the back of my mind. It's kind of in the far back, but it's definitely there. You agree with that? It might have been Galen beer and it might have been you. I'm trying to remember who it was last week at AG PhD, but the point was you're thinking about skimping at the end because you think you already got everything handled and that's when it's like no those are the dollars. Well, you know, there is this real thing about throwing good money after bad, but the reality is, you know, in some cost of some cost but you're everybody pretty much unanimously says no that last thing you're doing and late season if it costs you 35 dollars a pass you're gonna get your 35 dollars and multiple times that back so everybody agrees that Yeah, I mean you can I mean just like you when you set it up beginning and you write it all out all out all along. I mean, why do you want to give up at the very last quarter? Like you can't like you just I mean, I'm not saying that you need to ride out a junkie like Robbo said but You can't give up on it. You put too much in it, you know and you start to realize the amount of money that we've all spent this year in our crops, you know, we had good prices. It's coming down now somewhat, so it makes you step back and think but Years what pays bills? at the end that you had something contribute. No, I'm good. I thought you know Kelly back and forth kind of lost. Okay. Hey, I will not about that. But you know when we first started doing his webinars last winter will give you all stern warnings. You're not to be on your phones because then the people that are tiling in will think that we're not interested in them. So apparently you must have forgotten us. We remind you that you're not supposed to be in your phone right now. Well, you know, the issue is is that it appears that Temple just said that he goes better beings than that. So Lane chimed in and now there's a back and forth. So there might be a moment of intense Fellowship as much wait a minute. I haven't seen that on Okay. Yeah, I need to know what I need to know. Is this for the let's just verify. Yes. I said that by the way, I'm glad you said it and also like to point out Temple that not only used that. I grew better beans than that. It wasn't mad that actually stood up for himself. It was his kid who's right now in on like some kind of opium because he just had finger surgery yesterday. Have junkies down there. It's been a junkies. Yeah, you know pain meds. He's on pain meds. He is on playing me is but Temple does that you mean beans I'll give him that. It's good I have before it doesn't mean that I can't keep doing it and I've got some questions. I want to get to so Scott wetstein wetstein. What's no about heavy morning dues you guys up basically all are in agreement that once you get really hot and humid or is Rob says when temperature and humidity exceed 160, meaning the two of them added together which happens a lot but also with that humidity you're gonna have a bunch of moisture on the leaves. Does that offer present itself as a problem to get product to suck into those plants when they're just coded with do in the morning we have to do it. I mean, we'd rather deal with the day than we had 12 Degree heating. So we have we just we go at daylight. I mean that might not be the right thing. Some of you guys probably answer that better than us, but we have to go. Yes the lesser of two evils. Yeah. That's right. Yeah, I don't know man. We're Chad's driving around in Illinois. Now. He's got a new little he's found he's found his heaven on Earth. It's in Illinois. He probably thinks they only had to spray the corn there. They just throw it out the window the pickup truck and then there goes all right. My next question is from Tate Cockrell and he's in Southern Ohio. We are planted extremely late. Do you ever take that into consideration? We deciding do you push the pedal or not to get this crop mature at some point in time? So obviously we're talking about late season and I believe what takes alluding to there is late season his his plants are gonna be not as far along late season in Southern Ohio as they should be because the the word presented they're prevented to get into the fields until probably because of moisture I'm assuming because he's in Southern, Ohio. Based on that what he what changes do you make I would think you probably push the hell out of it, but maybe the answer is those plants aren't going to get there because they went in too late. What's the answer? I'm gonna answer that or I'm gonna give one answer and everybody else can too Robin. I talked about this about right before the webinar, you know with our wheat beans and they're late. They're June 8. and we even talked about our beans we planted behind our February beans, you know, July 31st, but Just because they're later don't mean that you can't capitalize out of these inputs and that's what we're thinking. So if we're looking at a 55-60 bush of wheat Bean. You know and Chad Chad and he's answered this too because he's working on the same thing. If you go ahead whatever works for an Roi in in February, March April May. It should still carry on to a June July Bean simply because those same processes are going on. I mean the heat May dictate that song but if it's if it works here, it should work there may not you may not get you know, 80 90 140 bush sabines like Temple grows, but you're getting the ROI and that's what matters. Books daddy you need a time. You know that I think Temple went over there and and probably the next time he turns his camera. He's gonna be standing in front of those green bin full of soybeans just to rub this whole thing. And anyway, he's actually I'm I'm getting in my pickup because we just busted out have thunderstorm and I'm getting ready to run down the road like a maniac and go shut off any creation before it gets struck by lightning. So I'm listening. You're right. You're gonna be like Ted you're gonna be in the truck. Yeah. That's where I am right now. Well Chad's gonna contribute to this discussion about late late means and I also want to point out that Chad drove through my home state, but didn't swing by. I've been to Madison Alabama twice for multiple days. And where's Chad driving through Indiana? I didn't see him. I figured you don't. So what do you get but what I'm what I think on it, it's all in perspective Phoenix. You know what the most that I've made is like 74 bushel double crop which would be about that's planted you fourth and you know, me and Matt Rob temples. I mean all of us have been talking on here Kevin Kelly about trying to push. I'm trying to figure out how to make 80 Bush. I've never done it. So it's all in perspective what we're trying to make you don't do anything. It's possibility you can make 40 45, you know, so so again, like I say, it's all in perspective of what you think. You should make by planting them later. We can try to lock in at 60 or 605 instead of locking in a 40 or 45. I'm curious date. If you're still on this call, which I'm sure you are. I just kind of curious as to win the stuff got planted because I mean what you say extremely late, but remember you're You've got you've got four more weeks of season probably in Southern Ohio, then you would where Kelly Farms just because of your climatological zone. So you probably I'm thinking he's fine. Are you saying go ahead and be fine? And you know, Matt's advice was to go ahead and just go ahead and treat it more like normal right? Not normal would be at least the three treatments, you know, we're gonna get that first b**** hated tree, but and then we're gonna come in there that are one or our two and then we're gonna come in there possibly with a later when it at our three or five or you know moving to our three to our five or whatever but I like the three treatment approach to it, you know, and I somebody else may want to call me on that now also, you know Kelly or somebody We're gonna like they're the R3 regardless whatever whatever date planted. We have our beans that are three is gonna get done. Now, you know the the R1 and our five, you know, we're gonna kind of look at the weather. We're going to look at the you know, what yield potential we have there. But the R3 is mandatory for us no matter if we plant, you know, March one or we plant. August we're going to do that R3 because there's no question that that one pays Kelly I'm sorry. I know you. I think that the R3 has to be done for sure, you know, this potassium acetate that I'm gonna put out very late at almost R5 not quite our five. That would be the only thing that I would pull back on soybeans, but you know like Tate if you're if your beans got planted really late maybe you should explore desiccating them to move Harvest up a couple weeks. As far as corn. I wouldn't I wouldn't stop I'd rather deal with wet corn. I'd rather come by 23 or 24 percent corn that I would 15. You know that you said that in a previous webinar the point is you if your recording is too dry, you're giving away money. That's one of your big points right when your corn gets below 18, you're gonna lose 10 to 12 bushel of ghost bushels, and I I don't doubt that a bit and now yeah, that's and that's that. That's because the stuff is shattering. It's just getting lost in the field or is it just test winning when that corn gets down below 18 or 19, you know, I especially under 19, you know gets down there the points of the colonel breaks off stays with the cob. That's why the term ghostbustion because you can't find it. I see and I want to come by 20% corn all day. And so the point you just made there's no you said 12 bushels. That would be very I mean because you're in oh, yeah, you're in a county that averages 220 bushels or so per acre and Tate might be down in the rocks of Southern Ohio. We don't know but you know, he might be a place that is 160. But the point is if you let it does. It does exist. Yes. The point is if wherever he is. He you'd advise him to first off kill the soybeans if it's if it looks like it's gonna get too late spray them off and kill him and you bump up Harvest by two weeks. Yeah, you need, you know, learn how to desiccate them and move Harvest up two weeks, you know here we're here in Western Iowa. Most people don't start harvesting till October last year. We were done September 28th. I mean, it's It's one of the best Matt taught it to us. Matt Rob taught it to us. It's one of the best things we've ever done. Do you think that since you like to learn from Matt? Do you think next year or just start lighting all your fields on fire? He just loves to burn s*** down there. I mean if there's a field if there's a field they drive by they just don't like it on fire. Yes, that would be the next step in the evolution. I'm gonna raise rice next year. burning stuff still on tights question tape, I I think whenever you plant a beans you still got a you got to take care of them. And I know you said June 18th. And you know, I still think you've got yield potential at R3 now when you get to that late of a being maybe you just look at the R3 application not the r one not the R5, you know do some trials, you know, some are are one or three our five and then do someone just R3 and you know, we'd like to see that attitude because we're still learning ourselves. I mean, we don't we don't have a Magic Bullet. We want to know what you guys see so that that helps us also y'all are smart as we are on this, you know, did you see there that Tate said is yeah planted June 18th, but I think that It's even Southern, Ohio. That's probably a month later than than what he used to, you know, try and do let's just say but in the also going to get enough time, I mean, he's those beans could get harvested in November and still be fine presumably and in his where he is weather weather. Well, you know, you got to look at that weather because he got to look at, you know, the rate claritoneal weather what's coming, you know, I've got a little bit of research in the last couple of days where you know, there's gonna be some really cold temperatures in the midwest. If you're seeing that you know, you might want to kind of Maybe do a trial, you know, just just do 20 40, you know Chad. Does this all the time he'll do two rounds, you know, he'll try to kill his corn kill his beans with two rounds in a field, you know, just do some trials and and kind of see what you know, that's good data for all of us for the whole community. Not only is a good data, but you are diversifying mitigating your risk. You know. We got Brett Heineman that has a question here that we will make sure we get to him. How often do you put a pgr out? I'm Kelly I learned about pgr from you. So once you take that one, how often do you spray a plant growth regulator twice? We will use it in like we'll put make it grow and furl as a secret. We'll then put Mega grow out when we make our post chemical application and then we'll use you know, Energizer onward at the reproductive time. You're doing it infero and you're doing with your first herbicide treatment when stuff is like six to 12 inches tall. Oh, yeah, six to eight inches tall. Yeah, and then you're gonna do it again at when reproductive time. So your beans would be like at R2 and corn we try to do it at BT. So you got plant growth regulator going out three times. Yes, okay. Anybody else want to contribute that for Brett's question? I can can you hear me? All right. I'm right now. Yes, you hear me, right? Well, so I I do the same thing that Kelly does I'm maker grow in Pharrell driving route system that's of defensive mechanism that I'm going back in defensively again for the Mega grow in with my herbicide test and I'm going in and are one and then I'm going again and or three or four and I do that corn and soybeans but I do it across the board. It's for pay assistance and if it's proven itself time and time again getting the pump every time and I got to return on every one of my best use a plant growth regulator four times. Yep, sure do again and give us the four again. and furrow first pass in my in my herbicide R1 R34 Okay. Anybody else anything? All right. All right. We're about at the hour mark. We said we're gonna keep it tight. I think that we should go around now and anybody one last thing on late season pedal of the metal one last thing Lacey's below. And by the way, if you are watching this we want this to be valuable and speaking of valuable. 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Would you like to make any more to statements comparing your crops to Junkies? I mean we can I mean if you want to you, I mean it's you know, I mean Keep them High. All right. All right, Chad Chad. You're the guy that we we fashioned this whole entire episode about we we refuse you as a race car driver 4.1 seconds to do an eighth of a mile. We made this all about you. So finish it out here pedal the metal. What's your your big takeaway final takeaway? Same thing don't give up on the crop, you know, and it's telling you know, don't forget your insects. You know. Wow prime example is last year, you know, I had some beans around some corn that the corn dried down the stink bugs went straight into the beans. They was our five or six and I was just tired and I give up and I know it cost me but so, you know just don't get late in the game. Everybody's want to go to the beach here do whatever just just stay on Focus, you know, if it needs one more spraying any one more time, you don't walk down here for you know, and just keep on your pocketbook and the PTR thing you can do a lot of those. I mean, there's a lot of good pcrs out there, but we're the same way. We're probably tricked on me and three to four, you know about every pass. There's some sort of PTR in every past. Got it dimples. Temple's getting back to normal from irrigation recovery. So Kelly, what do you got for us last notes on pedal the metal? I think a good statement or an analogy is what Lee talked about last week at eight PhD. He said never stop rounding the basis. Don't stop at third base. Take your applications take your practices all the way to home and finish out the season strong and you'll be paid for it. Lee says some smart stuff sometimes doesn't he? Lisa sharp guy Matt miles pedal the metal I'm pissed off because I was going to use exactly what Kelly you please tell me and I thought that way remember this so I'm gonna use this comment. So what I want what I kind of want to make sure I figure it out here is two of the guys here on this call on the panel or gonna quote Lee as their closing genius. So I think that just says a lot about how Lee says good stuff. No, I think you made a really good point there. You also get some really good input to our guy Tate about, you know, doing some experimentation, but more importantly if you really think he's gonna be up against the wall he can just he can now that as you can change you can dictate when you're harvesting beats, you know, you can change you can vary that by four weeks with the desiccationally she can get about you probably get what you think Rob we don't wear in there in that right probably too depends on the weather. But yeah, he's trying to 60 to 70 bushel, you know, you'll go out I would at least try you know, that's what we do. We try a lot of test plots. So, you know Chad's a master is if if you're worried about something you got a 500 Acres of beans do 200 of them this way 20 of them this way whatever you mean, you know put that out there and see where you get and then let us know because it's a big deal to us to know, you know, how successful the members are. So what we're doing and what they're doing and it's it's you know, it's it's kind of a peer group to us. Well, what's interesting is, you know, he's in this situation. I know we've talked a lot about his unique problem, but He's in the situation. He hopes not being again. He planted he planted that southern Ohio June 18th, which I'm guessing is four to six weeks certainly beyond what they you know, what they normally do. So he's probably hoping that to have this again, but if these young guy he's gonna have he's gonna have this problem at some point again is forming future right? Well and yeah and we're working with what we planted our double crop beans behind our February beans on you know, August 31st. So I mean June 35, July 31st. So we're traveling trials on there, you know, same thing. He's looking at just to see with this help with that help even if you're not looking at 60 to 70 bushels. you know what increase can you get because we're thinking 25 to 30 bushels on the second crop. But if we put something out on a plot there and we get 35 or 40, you know, we figured out something that may work for you know future. Yeah. Well, what's really cool by the way you give me an idea for a fall or winter webinar and that's gonna be beans following beans. You're doing it in the same season Kelly's going to be doing it year after year because and we shot a video about that. I think that's good webinar subject when we've got results to see what soybean following soybean what we learned and what we can improve upon Temple. Yes pedal to the metal. Besides telling people you just randomly walked around through buildings and found stuff to dump in your sprayer, which we know isn't really true. What's your what's your closing thoughts on pedal Mill? I think that what everybody needs to realize is. Regardless of all these different products all these things that that we utilize you got to go back to keeping the plant completely healthy. Oh that is for nothing. You can't do any of this without keeping your plans as healthy as you can possibly keep them doesn't mean if it's a hole in the leaf, which takes away from your federal sentences from a bug. It doesn't matter if it's disease all that's for nothing because if you don't have the leaf structure a healthy Leaf structure to pick up what we're trying to put on there with PG yours and my Crews and all the right fertility. It's all for nothing. So I think for me being proactive about keeping that plant completely healthy and then all the rest of it falls in line. And I'll say this diamond. I used to be the soybean Guru or extreme AG until we brought his ass on as a affiliate and now I'm number two. That's a lie. I don't even want to hear that. I get more ideas off of you than you get off of me boy. You guys are fantastic. So that was a subject to pedal to the metal. There's a reason you listen to these guys. They're experts say about my agricultural expertise. I'm redoing some my little hay patches out here and we just sprayed it off when I was traveling and then it dawned on me. I said man this Alfalfa just won't die. 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