The Results Are In: Part 2 — Feedback & Data From "In-Season” 2022 Product Trials

Let's get started with the January 9th webinar. The results are in the results are in we're talking now about products that were used in season on the farms into year 2022 what we saw what we did how we did it how we used it and most importantly the results if we can put a number to it quantifiable we will do so we're going to lead off with aggro liquid Agro liquid one of our business partners three of our guys four of our guys. I'm sorry did Labs which means they actually did 40 acre trials not just a little seed plot not just some little puny ass thing with, you know, like a half acre 40 acres for crying out loud with Agra liquid stuff. Um, we got Kevin we're going here from Chad. We're gonna be here from Matt and Lane down in Magee and we're going here from Kelly. So let's lead off with Kevin Kevin you look at Agri liquid as a full systems approach. Talk to me about that. yes, so we used it on our about actually we had about 135 Acres total with it on with corn and soybeans split amongst those acreage. It was a irrigated Farm. That's when we do a lot of research home. We have a field day there. We also this a metaphim drip system. So it gives us opportunity to compare these products using App planning foliar. Versus planning only and also foliar versus running through the drip irrigation. So it's quite a lot going on there the foliar program we use was it was a product called capitalize and the Stephanie actually had some liberate calcium microf500 and some other ingredients added in that product Force to use foliar. It worked out quite well our corn we was at 290.71 bushels on a these were all NCGA checks. So they was our average about a acre and a half with a 48 row. Skip I believe between them it was three 16 row passes, but So it wasn't just taking it out of The Sweet Spot Damien. It was a good average across the field. We've seen a 4.32 bushel Advantage running that foliar at R3 on the corn and we also run in the same pass we come back and do to Applications fungicide. So we run it the second time as well. So we picked up 4.32 bushels with a normal program passes. The soybeans got really interested. That's where we so our drip tape was 12 or 10 or three quarter inches in the ground 40 inch space and on that drip tape from that a film. So we had a 100.98 bushel average with capitalized foliar. We picked up about two points. Three six bushel gain over the check. That was nonfoliar. Just with a planner didn't didn't put anything out folder on that. So we picked up 2.36. Then we run it through the drip and we actually we was at 3.17 bushel advantage over the drip. That kind of surprised me. I didn't expect that much of a change on the drip actually figured it might be a little bit less. But that's just where the cards laid out and that was on they was almost three and a half acres on each check. So treated with them without we had three and a half acres to compare to I want to make sure that heard that right you and Kelly both have none of them some service trip irrigation systems on some of your acres and the advantage there is besides just fully treatment or why drops you can put stuff out through the irrigation. Are you saying that the stuff with Agra liquid you put out through the drip did perform better than fully replied or did not perform as well as fully airplane. Now if it was better than just a planner applied alone. So I seen a yield Advantage with the folder. I've seen you old Advantage putting it through the drip over not. Anything okay. Just putting it out up front with a planner which one's better between fully replied or drip applied. Has man is a Tulsa. It was 2.364 and 3.17. With the drip and I'm gonna say if you're replicated it could easily toss and go the other way guys and you were talking about double crop soybeans. And as you guys call them wheat beans you and Matt miles like talk about your wheat beans down there. Don't cry soybeans. And you said listen we put this stuff in there, but I've struggled to do anything to give me a big bump on double crop soybeans. What's the story with you? And Agra liquid on double crop soybeans, so You know, we we decided on our being program this time to push the double crops and we had several companies that done this and it's just hard to getting response. I double crops we haven't yet with it. Um, you know, these were really good beans. We own all three replications. We was anywhere from 66 to 70 bushel on these beans from and so but but we couldn't really get heads or tails out of making one treatment even better know the one so because it's it's just it's just hard to you know, no matter which company we was so but we did like said, it's I don't know how much more we can push out of a double crop anyway, right? So but on the corn side we had this a lot of same results that Kevin did it's a systematics approach, you know, we heard us talking earlier about it with Agra liquid that we started and it was, you know, in forever or two deal and we added stuff to it. Well our ad to it when we come to the side dress part and or the herbicide phobia, what or the herbicide treatment which we added the father too was the further rain. Phobic both those who had a court and then we went to two gallon to the ton of enhance that was in the 28 in the side dress. So when we done those are we had 40 acres it was replicated four times and the average on that was anywhere from 279 to 294. So it was really good corn and we was picked up. I hadn't really broke it down which one picked up what but it average anywhere from 10 to 15 bushels with a whole program systematic approach. Yeah. All right close with Matt and Lane talking about cotton because I know we got cotton producers on here and they're the only cotton producers that we have in in our on a call right now. But before we do that to talk about systems approach Kelly one of your big takeaways was you know, why it's sometimes is hard when you just are sampling one product versus assistance approach. Tell us what your thoughts on that are. Picking up on what Chad just said, you know, I I really like to pick out the the best products from every different company that we work with and some of them are really shiny stars and liberate CA from Agro liquid is a is a shiny star for me. You know, I believe Evans would agree, you know, we have determined that we believe calcium is our biggest nutritional deficiency and using liberate CA in the corn in the soybeans. We're seeing huge results just an application in the soybeans here. We pick up three and a half bushel just from a court of calcium and we're starting to push liberate more and more. It's a just about the best calcium product that we have found. It returned $30 just from a court of calcium 30 net dollars and we're using cat like I said more and more Evans by the way, we stood in front of the irrigation system just to the east of the shop at Garrett Landing Cattle with you and and we talked about calcium and putting it through the subsurface drip irrigation from netithim. Give us something that we didn't just hear from Kelly when it comes to the calcium through the drip. Oh, yeah, one thing we did with calcium level unique question it through the drip word. We were trying to unlock some of the soil with the calcium with the cation Exchange in the soil. So we push that through the drip to see if we can loosen up some other nutrients in the soil that may be tied up or make some more available. So that's one thing we did with calcium to the drip. Any other anything about the aggro liquid experiment this year that you didn't hear from Kelly? You know, we did a couple videos out there on it and just seeing the structure benefits from it even going in late season coming to harvest I think were big for us. You know, I feel did what close to 80 and spots. So they combine like a dream branch of sales. So it was really really good trial. Yeah, we're gonna close that with the miles Brothers. They're not really brothers. They just look like they could be Matt miles and Lane miles and they used a real liquid on Cotton. He's our he's our resident cotton producer or give it to us. What did you see? And what do you want to tell us about cotton with Agra liquid products? Well, we had a lab this year with with Agra liquids and and Molly design the lab for a just a normal run of the meal cotton producer. So we did a combination of five applications of foliers, which sounds like a lot if you're talking about corn and beans but in a cotton application or in a cotton System we probably spray eight times for plant bugs during the year. So five applications piggybacking with a pesticide of some time. So of some sort is not a really big deal. We use the full vic the capitalize the fertiline and the Boron and we had was a 40 acre plot with 10 acres of different applications and we ended up with an 88 pound increase in the cotton lint this Lent what we what we go by pounds or you know pounds of Lent so we end up with 88 pound increase in Cotton with this program. So we were pretty excited about that. I think it was about 55 or 60 dollars in that return to us. Somewhere around 80 this year with you know with our prices of cotton this year. So we're looking to over $20 an acre, you know Roi on that. So we were pretty excited with what we've seen versus a check. Lane anything on Cotton by the way, he says eight passes no big thing for cotton when I was there in May it was already a scorching 95 degrees. Matt mile said you gotta learn what my old man told me cotton is a plant that looks for a reason to die every day. So Agra liquid kept you from dying and also made you money. Yes, that's exactly right. By the way, nice contribution Lane when I said Lane when he got for me I teeded up and then you let your old man talk. You know what your world you never quit talking. You were talking the whole time was like a whole sentence. But but older brother pretty much got it younger brothers. Don't have a whole lot to say. Youngest I got four older brothers AG Explorer Lee you just tuning in their new members we welcome you Lee luber's Farms. Basically on the Edge of Hell Lee lubbers farms in Gregory South Dakota. It could be 50 below there could be three feet of snow. It could be an 80 mile an hour wind or could be an absolute drought and you wonder how does anything grow here? That's what Lee Loopers does and he had something exciting to tell us he actually got some really good response out of an explore product talk to me Lee variety is the spice of life as they say this year. We were in rather excessive drought probably worse than 2012 and we wanted to still Forge ahead with all of our foli or trials. So we go out in the morning when it was a little bit cooler before I did a hundred degrees. And being bone dry and we did all of our trials and when we came back in and harvested my brother was cutting a field where we had a two-stage AG Explorer foliar soybean trial and it just it just lit up. I mean, it really bumped the yield which I thought was very impressive considering. We're in a drought. So it did very well for us. We had five different trials in that field and it stood above everything else got it. So we got also here from the send it twins. We're here for Matt Matt. You got a big bump and I would like to hear from Lane. Of course. Also, you got a big bump on your corn lab with that Explorer. Yeah that I was Lange program. So now the little brother is going to get to speak. Yes, so little brother here. Um Yeah, we had we ended up getting on corn a 13 bushel increase on our lab. We talked about a little bit in the first webinar on at, you know, our planning time of planning webinar and you know, it's kind of a whole system is systems approach is what we kind of harp on a lot. So we had a infero in three different foliers. Um had micros pgrs, Inferno was humic fulvic armor max several different products from AG explorer that that really kind of showed out. But had a 13 bushel increase over our check did that and I don't know four or five different replicated, you know trials but really really showed out probably one of our one of our top trials we had this year. All right, so 13 bushel bump on corn 13 times six. I'm running the numbers here. That seems like it could be like was that 78 dollars? Is there any reason that you wouldn't is there do I need anything more? No, not really. No. That's that's pretty good role on that one. All right, Kelly you did onward trial and an octane trial Mike Evans here on staff and ground almost had to go and check on something. So you're going to give us the scoop and hope that he comes back. So first off we had an onward trial. This is an integrated AG customer, you know you were you here in Iowa where it's God's country nice to farm. This is a trial by Sac City, Iowa. This was onward which is a explorers reproductive pgr. This trial is replicated three times and it was five to eight bushel all three times on with the onward in corn corn with this with this customer's fungicide. Great trial great results all three of them positive produce. Very nice return there. How did you say? What was the application method Evans? on that would have been the point. Yeah area what it would have been a plane. And then this is at our place. This is where we added octane which would be their stress mitigation product. We added it to our fungicide. You know, we hit we didn't have a drought like Lee but we had a pretty pretty decent drought this year. Just putting octane in the fungicide added two and a half bushel in the corn and you know, not a huge response. But this was a really nice field that we put it in, you know, a high producing field added two and a half bushel, and I was want to have a three to run return. Well the cost of this treatment's five dollars in it. We produce 16 dollars. I don't think that's anything to sniff at all that trial, you know in a stressed area. It had we done that trial and stress there. Yeah, I think the return could have been much higher and you know again one of our focuses this year stress mitigation and that that really proves out you can always get those in incrementally increases. Yeah makes sense anything to contribute on the AG explore products from Mr. Evans? Um, yeah, the onward product really great products late season pgr, really helps the plant. Hold the kernel set or pod set and we've had great results of it. All right. Well, we're talking late season. My my two my two favorites Temple and Chad the send it twins as we will and if you're wondering if you're new to this you're saying what's that mean? Hashtag send it there's they don't stop they don't stop until the the stuff is in the bin. They're all about if if it's a question should we treat this or not? Treat it? They're all about send it. Anyway send it twins Temple and Chad. You said late season. There's a lot to shine here with the product. Talk to us simple. So Chad and I went back. I'll just drop back 109. We had a conversation back in the summer and it all stemmed upon when we're tissue sampling Chad and I have done to your sampling for a number of years and we we might not do quite as much of it. Now we're starting to figure out the stages of what these corn plants need water sleeping plants need and we we are trying to get ahead of that curve. You know, we're trying to stay ahead of that all the time. One of the things we talked about is maybe we're dropping the ball a little bit too early. So we're now trying to we I did AG Explorer trial. Oh, I guess for stuff, you know, we were trying to do a number of different things. We were trying to get energy into the plant late season. We were trying to trick it with a pgr. So we used onward Max. We were trying to put some more weight in the colonel so With the development that Chad and I did and talking about this we use similar products and you know Chad's ground might require his corn might have a little bit of a different requirement than my ground needs. You know, that's the important thing to remember here. It's not a One-Stop shop. You can't just use one product one micronutrient. It has to be specific for what your corn is requiring at that time. And I think that that's something that's very important to remember but with what we came up with we saw pretty tremendous results. Now, there's a ton of research that still needs to be done. I just don't know what more to say, but whenever you're talking about these products, you know Aggies for has a ton of products out there that can facilitate your exact needs know what your plants need and knowing where to play some that is is Key, and we're still learning that Chad hit them Chad late season. So so yeah on all that. So any anyway, you're mostly late season soybeans though, right? Yeah. That's right. I'm late season anything and they because I'm behind I just don't quit. So when I probably when I should sometimes but no all these guys are right. I mean you hear Kelly talking about it and and we hear Temple talking about it and they're exactly right and we've had octane y'all anywhere and we keep private on same thing. But we've had it anywhere from going out with a planner which we talked about all the way to the end here and we've had it anywhere from one quart and up, you know, we ain't gonna talk about what up is but that Court rated that five dollars is just a game changer almost every time it works. Well like that and onward Max, you know works. Well the same way I mean they both done good. They've got several products. That's they're boron's good. You know, you hear me talking about boron about getting in the plant and so so they've got several products that works real well and they they was in our game definitely late the good thing. I like about most everything they got other than you know, young we're back to but you're products. Their sulfur there are octane. They're Boron most of us all the same rate. You know, it's like a court rate on everything which I kind of like it stays simple. But everything mixes really nice and because these guys have give you a bunch of good information, but good products good people work with and look forward doing some more with them. There's there's something you got to remember with this like, you know, this late season thing that Chad and I were doing we kind of threw the kitchen sink at it and we need to learn how to we actually need to learn how to back off a little bit. Chad just said it but one of the things that you kind of remember here is we need to back off a little bit. We need to figure out where that general standard practice is going to be where we're going to be all the time. We're just trying to figure that out. We're not trying to you know, break the bank or break the yield record. We're just trying to figure out where we're going to fit this into our operation. In the words of Chad Henderson, there's never a mistake. There's just a experiment. That didn't work out. All right. There you go. We're moving on to agerson. And by the way you guys talking about pulling back with it. It's like when Evil Knievel decided to not jump 43 buses or something. You know what let's face it. You're not good at pulling back. It's not your thing. All right agerson, Kevin, you're an agerson guy one of our business partners, and then we're gonna move into Lee and Kelly. Yep. So the the agerson accomplished Max is a product. We've actually made it just a grower standard practice. Temple was alluding to that just a little bit ago and the way it gets to be that is after we've done multiple tests across several hundred acres and it winds pretty well consistently then that's what we put in. So on our corn Acres that goes in Furrow. We're seeing anywhere from a 3.8 to 4 bushel gain across all those tests that we did last year. And so to do over 400 Acres of it last year off and on that's why we made it to grow our standard practice for 2023 2022. the extract we tried doing it differently this year. We tried putting it in the tuba two really this supposed to be in season is supposed to be the stuff you're doing like in June and July not at time of planting. Yep. And so your extract is normally they want you when you do your top dress put it in there or when you're going across you can spray it on the foli or however you want to do it, but we chose to put it in with the with the in Furrow. Excuse me, the tuba too, Damian. You don't got me off track here dead again you but that agerson product and using the accomplish, you know, we picked up about We're actually lost a little bit on that field. It was a 3.7 loss when we combine those. Trying to put it in Furrow. I mean, excuse me in the tuba two rather than foliar like what they recommended and we wanted to try they said it would work in some cases but it was a we got a big rain on that field. It was a 58 acre field. They was pockets in it that zeroed out and it just wasn't a fair comparison. So we did went to another area in the field and it was like 0.8 difference bit in the field the treated versus a control. So here that the one big thing since the world about the in season you think it's better to use this product is extract. Oh, yeah this extract I think it needs to be put foliar. No question when you're why dropping putting in with your nitrogen, I think that's the time to do it. That way you put it right in there and it helps break at nitrogen down helps get it more available. I didn't get as much luck putting it out early on in the tuba to I think it's going to shine when you come back and put it I just feel like that's where that product should go based off last year's data 2021 and in 2020 Tuesday fantastic. We got a narrow it down and figure out where these work the best at and I think that's where it should go and that's on both accomplished Max and extract. That's just extract. No, that's the extract the the accomplished Max. I still like it in in with the planner. I like putting it out up front. I really Lee terramar you had it you had a results and again everything has an asterisk up there because you didn't get any rain talk to us. We were very intrigued by terramar being a stress mitigation product because we worked with other ones and proud for different things. We did four different things this year for stress mitigation and terramar studying up on it and seeing some of the yield results last year from out of Kansas Western Kansas. We kind of jumped in with both feet. We ended up applied about 4,000 acres worth on corn and one of the trials that we did. I send a short video to Scott from agerson late in wheat Harvest I was driving by a cornfield and where we applied it on our side of the road. Other side of the section line the neighbor did not and actually it was luck of the draw. When we planted we're looking at each other the neighbor and I when we sprayed we were looking at each other but yet we came in and went with stress mitigation with terramar and that day the wind was blowing about 25-30 mile an hour. There's a hundred and five and our side of the section line. We still that is that ideal spraying conditions and you're part of the world. No, this is on the day that I was looking at it during okay. I was headed to combine crew and our side of the section line. The leaves were green and erect the plant was still functioning respiration trans still taking place. Walked 40 foot across and the neighbors field looked like a field of green onions. And it was they were just rolled up tight this fall we cut 150 hundred sixty bushel corn on our side and on his side. It went in a solid pile and I know that helped preserve a lot of yield for us. We had to, you know, do fertility and our management practices. To get to that point, but I know in that third Corridor and going into the fourth terramar help just preserve that yield where the neighbor lost we held that we had. I think it's important. Also, we got people from all over the listen to this when lead talks about getting 1560 bushel corn. That might not seem like some, you know, great shakes where you are, but he's in Gregory South Dakota. He's yeah climatological issues. He's not and that's mention it, you know didn't rain there and then the neighboring field, you know got chopper for silage and it would have a bushel equivalent of less than half of that what you got. Yeah looking it is corn. He had a lot of bear and stocks he with the scripts. He left for the adjuster if he had 40 emotional. I think that would have been best best. That's one fourth years. Okay, that's it from agerson spray Tech. We got a lot of information about spray Tech spray Tech. We'll go with our our friends down in McGee man. Let's face it you are and you are anti agent and now what? Yeah, I'm kind of a adjuvance up use them some but you know, you've heard the word snakehold before and so during my career. I've always thought maybe it works. Maybe it don't I've actually forgot to put it in before and seemed like I got the same job. But this this full Tech is a different deal. This is a game changer. So we had the February beans this year and we had 47 Acres surrounded by crops that were all still growing we decided to decate to beans and we put that in there and actually spraying towards a neighbor. And zero damage to anybody and that was used in paraquat. So paraquat something that really floats a lot in the air and able to take that, you know take that product and the full tech and and it went to the ground not only to go to the ground but it's got so many, you know properties to it. It's a you know, it works on ph it's a Water Conditioner, you know, it helps keep from Drifters. There's there's several different things in that product that you know, a lot of guys when we were doing our practice session said that's gonna be something this girl or standard practice and I think that's probably going to end up being a girl or standard practice for us as well. By the way, thank you. And I remember when we recorded it with spray Tech at the Hefty Field Day in July and they talked about it's an adjuvant. It's it makes it stickier. It is drift control. It's it's you know, it's it's a bunch of things and what do we call it? The Swiss army knife of products. And so you're now coming off you're not anti-adiment anymore. No, especially with that product for sure. I mean, it does so many different things, you know, we talk about different modes of action. It's got all all that and above. We're not Damian. Sorry it worked. Well enough Damian that that once he once we kind of seen that how good it worked on the February beans all of our beans that we planted in March we had to decate with our ground rig, which is kind of not a normal practice for us. Because the airplane was basically said look, there's there's two there's too many crops still growing this time of year. It ain't happening. We put it out and we were able to put it out with our ground rig and and just I mean work perfectly. We're gonna by the way, thank you Lane. We're going brother, too. We're gonna go to our man Kelly Garrett and I'm a little boo boo because when we were wrapping up on agerson, I forgot to hear Kelly had a good experience with using their product terramar that Lee had a good experience with but you granted through your saw your sub-service irrigation. Yes, this was a very comprehensive trial that just all kind of came together coincidentally which was very nice. You know, we used agerson's terramar product. We put it through the net of him drip irrigation. This field is has a lot of elevation change like a lot of my Fields do hundred acres of drip. There's seven different zones because of the pressure compensating tape, you know, we have to really thank Kurt Grimm from nutrib my dealer for helping us set all that up. And actually I was State Agronomy had reached out being interested in some metaphim drip irrigation trials and I think Evans will really appreciate that they came and did all the tissue analysis because walking through 11 foot tall corn up 120 foot elevation Hill in the middle of August 100 degree weather Evans didn't have to do that. So he's the Iowa State kids were great to have to do that but on to the trial Where we had terramar added into our grower standard practice produced a 46 bushel yield result pretty tremendous result. It speaks to what can happen. When you have high stress even in drip irrigation, you know hot dry windy this year pumping as much water as we can. But this is this water. This is a surface water. This isn't a well and I have never seen this stream dry up in my life and it started to go dry and we had to cut back on the water. Yeah water as Matt has talked about before really is a stress mitigation property or quality, you know product the water is but when but even above that the terramar helped to the tune of 46 bushel returned 279 dollars net money what huge result. I was something I would not have expected. I I have laughed with Steve Saxon and Scott lay before that. A lot of people would call agerson products snake oil because they're not fertility. I'm here to tell you that they're not the best products that neutrina my apartment in my opinion our agerson products and and everybody needs to look at those. Thanks. Good information. 279 net and here's the thing. We came back to you for that but we were supposed to hear about you for spray Tech. You did two late season trials and I didn't give you a little chance to catch your notes when you say a lot of elevation changes. That would be like a field that might go up seven feet from one County Road to the other you essentially like it's like saying the Alps mountain range has some elevation changes and intimately when you said Evans didn't have to walk up and down those slopes. I mean you get called the ambulance if wind grove ever has to go out and walk from the bottom of the hill up to the top one in August through 11 feet corn. There's a reason that you call him when did growth that's right. He He carry an oxygen bottle. All right, spray Tech you did too late season trials late season trials. Yes. So in 21 on this is on foliar soybeans, you know, R1 R2 in 21. We put out their full Tech Ultra zinc product and had great results and we loved it. But Drew Ewing really encouraged us to try their impulse soy product. So, you know with Drew talks so much about it. We didn't think it could be that much better. But it we tried it next to the ultra zinc and It produced 14 bushel and huge product. The spray Tech products are so nice because they're so concentrated the ultra the impulse soy comes in a box. There's four products in it. It goes into a load and it 192 dollars net money return over the ultra zinc and I would tell you that all your zinc is probably an eight or nine ten most will return on itself. So the impulse soy great product easy to use and it will will continue to use it this year the other product. We have this goes with to send it twins. The this is an R5 foliar trial and corn. You know, you talk about the neighbors looking at you and thinking about you Well, everybody's done with their with the plane and the fungicide. We had the plane come back, you know, the plane was here at VT the plane comes back at R5, you know the helicopter. Rr5 foliar trial produce 14 bushel, $55 net money and it was full-tec K and Q byr both from spraytech. Not only is it great to produce 55 dollars, but we only put this on our fields that we thought had a top in yield potential. We didn't spray this everywhere so In Iowa, at least a lot of people always want to put all the fertility out up front and then you got a lot of you have to have a lot of Hope and you're gambling really here. We're just looking at what has top and potential. I'm putting that back out and it it again $55 that money is great. I'd also like to add with those guys are talking about the full Tech Edge event. I'm not a huge adjuven guy. I don't think Evans really thought it was a big deal either. I'll let Evan share with you go about the experience. We had with some pumps and things like that on the other edge of it or worry, we were using and why we switched over to full Tech Yeah, we've been running a couple different admins over the last two three years. and when we were in last year, we're it was coming in a tote where I don't remember putting 17 gallons in per load. We burnt through about three pumps through the course of pre-plant all the way till we parked sprayers for the year. Excuse me. So there was expense there time messing around pumps. We started working with the adjuvant and with their use rate and everything I think is probably a big thing for us. One one case. I think it was one jug actually one one point two five gallon jug would go on a Spare the And the spare guys are like why are we doing this? And then even like Richie and sprayer was talking about how nice better. It was spraying we're using attribute atrazine stuff too that tends the cake on those exactly machine and we were having that issue running the full Tech. So we made it executive decision to get rid of all the pumps and around full technique next year just on operational Advantage alone is huge when you're trying to spray. 9,000 Acres. Sometimes it's not about record yield and sometimes it's about just saving your bacon and we covered this with Lee luber's last year where he was gonna have a loss and ended up with, you know, at least a crop and I think that Temple has a story like that and I want to hear about that. He basically says he used ray tech products and it kind of help them salvage A Thousand Acres or soybeans forward do that. If you are listening or particular and you want to participate type in the chat or type in the question and answer and we will take your questions. We want to hear from you. We want to be as participative and interactive as possible because we were here after all for you to make this a learning experience Temple. So we had a we had a problem this year called Kelly and I said I said Kelly I got this problem. I'm freaking out. You know, we got pythium is rampant. It's in all my beans and it's literally killing them. It was depleting my yield and I was freaking out so he got me into contact with Drew and Kelly. What do you call it there? What what's their philosophy on their nutrients? You always say it best a disease persists in a plant because of a nutritional imbalance. There you go. So having said that Kelly described this to me and I was like, you know what I need to look into this so cold Drew Drew set me up sent me some product and then from there on there on out it was still cool and wet. So we started to put these products in through. So we use full Tech Ultra and it was the end in, you know, it's manganese deficient. That's what we usually are in my soul type and I described that to Kelly and to Drew and this completely changed my program. This is something that will absolutely be grow or standard practice for me after seeing what it did. It saved my my crap on the stuff that was already up and I there was zero in the later stuff that we planted that put it in Furrow. I mean it was a game changer for me big time. That's good. By the way, we do have a question. Should I I'll wait and take this after we get through spray text stuff Lee you got very little on this only because you don't think it's a fair comparison because the drought but go ahead and real quickly about spraytech products on your soybeans. We had a unique experience this year. Over the years we've always heard the term PPO damage on somewhere in the country. There's always areas guys having it from a classic chemistry commonly used in pre-merged chemicals and environmental issues will cause that to be antagonistic to your being plant. Well this year we got to experience it and where we had it these beans they were four to six inches so leave for cups about the size of your thumbnail. They wouldn't grow they were just locked up. We got too cold too dry there in May. We're like What do we do? Well, we've got nothing to lose. Let's try this. So we came up with the idea. We hit him with mega grow a pgr and we go. Well, these are gonna get better or they're gonna die because right now we got nothing. I mean, they're not gonna make 10 bushel an acre within five days couldn't believe the cell division the growth how they took off. So then we came back in with impulse soy and hit him again. Another visual difference huge bursting growth darkened up the beans. You didn't even recognize the beans in two weeks when we end up combining. They were of actually a very solid field and before it was going to be a cell which deal just like they're not gonna make anything. So it was amazing what the pgr in impulse soy did our only regret because I've wished I would just saved one step and put it together. We we have one more thing on spraytech has come from Chad Chad. The biggest point that you made when we were at your farm in Madison, Alabama and the summer with spray Tech and we were filming you said it's easy. Yeah, I'm kind of piggybacking off the other guys. I mean everybody said I said a lot about it. It's him same thing. I've seen the full tank. I mean, I just can't say enough about it it I won't have any herbicide corn herbicide going out without it. It just keeps a spray sprayer clean and like especially if you have to have any things said overnight with that exercise, you know, how it'll do. Um, and the next thing is a low use rate. I mean, it's just it helps us prayers out of time like evidence was talking about, you know, the guys to keep everything moving and you know, so we're looking for good things out of it and can't wait to do some more testing with it. That's for sure. Yeah, that's gonna wrap up one spraytech. By the way, Richard you had a question and somehow I've lost it and it's a pretty in-depth question that we'd probably be better off to get you some help directly from the companies because it was about your your in Furrow application. I don't know what happened to the question. I had it open and it went away. So if you want to resubmit it, I apologize, but I really think that we're better off based on the way. I read that it's a question for probably the the folks at FMC and a couple of our other parts there. It's in the it's in the answer. Kevin is as Answered it a little bit. That's why it isn't the answer. Yeah. Okay. It is an answer. Okay. So should we just stick with that and then go sounds like it. All right baby ASF speaking of Kevin first time. I was at your property. We were at your field day and we talked about BASF products. You want to tell us a little bit about zidua Pro. Yeah, so this year for lab, so we have to have fungicide. There's just no question about it. So You know, we just don't even want to try something without fungicide. So my my rep come and he said hey, let's do something with video approve said I think it'll be a real big help and and so we looked at it. So it's put out at pre-plant you're saying well this we're not planning webinar right now. But here's the key. So with our extended soybeans we're limited on when we can put our dicamba out. So we have a cutoff date. We can't go beyond that. Well the double crop soybeans that post application. Sometimes we have to drop the the in genuine out or the daiquan by out because we're past that cutoff date to use that product. So we took our double crop and put the visual Pro out at planning. And we did a 40 did right at 40 acres with a replicated with 20 acre strips between it we we did have to do a post on those 20 acres on the control. We did not have to do a post on the sidual probe. And so you think about it, you know, you're looking 20 bucks acre for this product, you know, 18 to 20 dollars. Probably I met with my guy today from nutrient and we decided on our entire double crop Acres this year. It works so good last year. We're going to put this all way across because it really it eliminates that need for that guy can but later on as our goal with it and it proved its point last year. So that is why we're going after that this year and that that was more value for us to test then trying to do a bunch of fungicide test now we did compare our Bell team to our headline amp and actually on this Farm the kind of interesting. The Bell team was 181.61 as a dry land on irrigated and in the headline amp was 184.86 and the control they was actually no control without fungicide on that. So both of them had it. But this was an area that you know it the headline actually beat it. It could have been a little better part of the field or whatnot. But normally we see the Bell team out yield it in our River bottoms now our revitec that was one where we put it against. Approach Prima on soybeans we've done this a couple times just to see and we picked up 3.46 bushels. We're ready Tech versus approach Prima the six ounce rate of approach Prima versus the full rate of revitec. So again, you know, we're in a heavy disease area. We're not even going to test it on a control without because we're probably going to be we're going to lose 10 bushels without fungicide in our area. That's just where we format. Corn you don't even think about growing corn without fungicide prevention. You want to cut it with a draper head or something. But all right Temple practice. Good. Simple pretty so I got a good story to tell on practice. I've been using praxware for a very long time visit. I'll tell you real quick story. I got to be short because I get yelled at So a bunch of years ago before pre-ax tour was ever out. My Bas have rep came around and said, hey, I went and looked at some yield trials and stuff in Europe about high yielding wheat and I want you to try this Fungicide and they told me when to put it out. Of course, he told me when to put it out it was you know, as soon as it comes up spikes around we're gonna put pre-axle on and I'm like What why would we do that? Like that doesn't make any sense to me what I did it you did in a trial. It was like seven to ten bushels better an acre. Um, and I it just as soon as I did that it were it then it came out pretty extra. That was his first year out there very next year and I put it on a bunch of Acres again. It was way better used to grow our standard practice across to every acre and now After that, I was doing it for the yield but a year or two after a couple years after that. My grain breaker caused me and said hey, I need to know what you're doing differently than all the other growers in the area because we're having vom problems, you know, but vomitoxin in there we're having or you're following numbers are different than ever. All the other weed growers in the area. He's like, what are you doing different? I'm like nothing these guys that I grow around. They're phenomenal. I don't know what you're talking about. He goes. Well, we went back to the past two years and we figured out that you're bomb levels are always lower and you're falling numbers levels are are better. So there's something that you're doing is different. So what we figured out was is that pre-ax or and we When he first spikes the ground that was given me better control all the way through the year, you know when we plant wheat? You're at that's the time of year where we're forgetting about things. We're forgetting about we're at the end of the year. We're all tired. We're not worried about playing Health. We put our wheat in the ground. It's gone dormant. We're not going to worry about it when it wakes up in the spring then we're going to get on it. Well, we dropped the ball. Well, we not only found out that we dropped the ball on that. We also found out that you know these diseases they have it's a pathogen and then it needs another host to get to know whether that host is your wheat crop, or maybe it's your cover crop like in our area is a lot of cover crop it goes right from the corn stove over right into a host and that next host is your your cover crop or your wheat and then you go to plant your your corn the very next year and then you think that it's okay and you're you know, I'm starting a brand new year off all of a sudden you got picked him problems. You got this problem. You got that problem and you're like man. I'm right now the gate I'm already screwed. Some of these things are things that you know, the guys at extreme aggress thinking really outside the box and we're getting way ahead of this curve and these are some of the things that we really need to start thinking about staying way out front. When Temple says he's going to tell a quick story reminds me of when the blimp pilot says he's gonna speed up. It's just listen that was just faces. I could go that's as short as I could get it. I'm sorry, we're gonna move on now to natures and Natures. I want to remind story. Okay, I'm sorry Matt. I I Was sorry I got a little fatigue there. Yes, Matt and Lane Matt Lane. Oh, first of all, you know, Kevin gives you more grace than anybody in this group right times five. I'm second. I'm the second guy. So my first question is could we change his name to point Matthews? Anyway his name to point Matthews. Because he's always pointing at us. Oh sixteen point three and eighteen point seven and eight Oh, you mean decimal point? Yeah. He's at you know what? I think I think he's got that thing going where he wants us to think that he's got the glasses. He wants us to think he's smart. So if he uses numbers that are more complex, I'm surprised you didn't like start putting in like, you know Infinity Point three, three, three, three three. Anyway, go ahead. I want to hear a story about BASF product from the mile big Temple story. He got me on it. Pre-axle William Pharrell Williams, we plant in February. They stayed in the ground 30 days. They stayed healthy the whole time but the big deal he is and Chad will attest to these if you have Italian ryegrass. That should be a grower standard practice. You cannot be visual Pro on Italian ryegrass. And we've got it so resistant that that it's a it's definitely a grower standard practice and I'll quit there. I just had to Gig Kevin just a little bit because he gets me all the time. I while you're gigging Kevin. I'd like to point out that you picked on him for being very exacting in his numbers like saying 16.37. But you know what this is to his credit coming from you Matt. When we we had a question in a webinar how deep do you plant something? And you said about a knuckle about a knuckle about a knuckle deep, but I'm not going to have deep. All right. Thank you. Chad. You got my point do it? All right. So we're gonna go ahead and move on now to Nature's and while we're talking about nature is I want to remind our listeners that we got a great promotion going and it's it's actually going through January 20th. If you are a member of extreme AG if you pay us 750 bucks to be a member which you should because you get great information you exclusive content you get exclusive access to the guys if you have a question to ask them, but you know, what else you're gonna get you're gonna get free access to the commodity classic March 9th and 10th and 11th down in Orlando. 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You know Finish Lines one of the products will have in the herbicide applications along with others, but it's a good I guess if you will micro pack, you know as we call them we get hung up on those but whether using you know, K fuel goes out really nice or k Flex, you know, and and you're gonna use some with side dress or whatever. But both those Cape products are real smooth real easy to get out not much, you know, not any trouble at all. And then the triple option we used it on some late season stuff. I think I'm right on that. I'm pretty sure I'm right on the triple option deal, but we I know we used Use it on late season part of it when Temple was talking about some of that, you know a good phosphorus because we used it on the soybeans. For that now the soybeans again another thing to wear we couldn't find anything from it. There was early planted. It was one of the ones with you know with with other ones that was didn't produce anything, but we did have one of those plots that was in that group go 74 bushel. So, you know, I don't know if that's good or bad but I'll take I'll take that every time on some double crop beans. You know what it's hard. It's hard for me to break that 70 Mark, you know with those it's it just gets real tough. But you might be getting a little bit greedy you already cut your wheat you already made your money on your wheat you go out there when nobody else can plant soybeans get in your complain that you you only get 70 bushel beans that you're planting like July so I don't feel sorry for you. Yeah. Now this was planning to personally could June and and you know, like Matt said earlier, you know, one of the best things we can do for that is that is to plan early on the double crops earlier and planning but these like I said these products if you know, if you have a case situation, okay problem, you know, we have a base saturation. Okay, that's anywhere from five to six and a half. So this cake you okay flex and stuff. They'll shine differently. When you have a base saturation. It's round three, you know, so just be ready to check that stuff and look at it because that's where they're going to sure enough run with it because this the product so well to get out and get to play it. Kelly you got something for nature as you did a tiered trial, what'd you do and if you need evidence to kick in with the agronomic data, I'm sure he'll do so so that this is a big like said three tier trial. We'll talk it, you know, I need to mention the first part because it really adds into what the kfuel accomplished in my opinion. We start this is a VT trial fungicide trial we started out with our grower standard practice, which is fungicide insecticide. Then we added energize which is an integrated AG reproductive pgr. Then we added Shield which is an integrated AG stress mitigation product. And then the third tier is we added in the K fuel from Nature's and the grower standard practice was 264 bushel corn. The energized added 31 bushel The Shield added to bushel and then the K fuel on top of it added another nine bushel to push this to three 306 bushel corn dry land corn. And I think it's very noteworthy that we talk about the first two tiers because I think that even speaks bigger to the nine bushel. We got on the end the K fuel added nine bushel to take it from 297 to 306 and produce 53 net dollars after that. I mean that's a that's a huge win again, you know, like when we're talking about my R5 trial. I really think that Growers need to look at putting some fertility on later not necessarily increasing your budget but saving that budget saving that bullet in your gun for VT or R5 and look at the games we're making out We recorded a really good podcast dear listener cutting the curve podcast and as with Chad and it was with Matt Swanson and who else is involved in that Chad and we talked at Great length. It was Kevin about how we've been for years conditioned to go out there and fleeing massive amounts of dry fertile or fertilizer on preseason or fall or whatever and you guys talked to Great length about getting a great crop where you hadn't done over done the dry fertilizer because you only thought you're gonna keep the field for another couple of years because of shopping malls gonna get developed and the point you made was products just like this that you're talking about At throughout the season is feeding the plant and you're still end up making money. Yeah, you know as a great point to Kelly made on that, you know tell in you're exactly right Damian. I mean, we're just say just hold some of that back that I mean, there's two or three things if y'all haven't heard anything here, it is just save some of that budget back and don't be afraid. You know, we're all we said all the time. We're all tired. Everybody's ready to go Beach sit down do something else but don't cut yourself shorts, you know, Lee says round the bases, you know, and that's what he's talking about on his these are some products that we can use that will come in there and they'll get that stuff right in the plant and that's what we got to have at this at this time in the life cycle. Kevin you got anything else on that because really I don't even think that will has released that podcast yet, but it's a great point that blowing all your budget on dry furlander instead of being judicious with that and then spoon feeding stuff along like something from Natures is really a bigger cost of cost of benefit ratio. I guess I'd say yeah, I got I got two things to the Nature's, you know, the finish line is just to grow or standard for us and all our foliar passes on corn soybeans and wheat We're just we run it. We that's we love it. We like it the second part. This is not Nature's. Um, we had a question from Mr. Richard there earlier and I just got a text back from Gail stratman with FMC. He's gonna be giving you a call tomorrow afternoon when he's a just landed and got those hotel tonight, but he was he's going to call you he can help you with that. And that's one of the good things that Damon can tell you with with us guys. If you can just get us some questions that we ain't got to answer we can find somebody that does and we we can get any of these companies we work with we got access to get you the right people to answer these questions because if we don't know the answer, we're not going to give it to you know, that's fantastic. And that was a question for getting Richard gunnels. I hope I'm saying that name right? And so yeah great glad that taking care of. All right, so it remind you also again if you want to go to come out of the classic for free there's a program through nature. You can go to the website and get that done. You can go to come. Classic with free admission and you'll build see all the cool stuff. We're doing there and you can do it if you're a member of extreme ad go to our website and figure it out. It's a promotion from Nature's sound Ag and we got really the big benefit here is nitrogen reduction, and we're going to have a few different sort of Reports on that but the big thing is if you're using this product and you can cut back on nitrogen. This might be this might be where we're forced to go someday. Anyhow, legislatively with environmental scrutiny if you will and that's where I think that there's a lot to be said about this Kevin's got three trials. He did with sound Ag and then the biggie here is gonna be from Kelly. Yep. So we you know, it's sustainability is a big deal. It's just in a conference last week. And first thing come up with csgs. It's a it's a big thing. We're all trying to do the the control our sound AG product. Now this goes out foliar. It goes out about our three or four when we done it. I think ideally Kelly it needs to go a little bit earlier than that about our our one R2. I think it's what you're recommend. But when we got the product in it was kind of the best we could do. We did see a three-point. I'm sorry Matt, but it's 3.59 bushels. My Engineers gonna come out in me. I got just gonna tell it like it is when you broke man, you can't see it's in pennies and pieces of bushes. But anyhow, we picked up three point six bushels. On over the control and then we did another one and we did it on a really on a lot better ground, but it's more of a dryer area of the field. It just didn't get to rain on that farm and we actually had it two bushel deduction right there and I wouldn't really call it a deduction. It's it's just simply it didn't do quite as well and it's more environmental we did not get opportunity to drop the nitrogen on this and that was something that Kelly was able to do because when we got the product we had already done our wide drop so we couldn't cut it back and that's something that you really need to do to get this product do right on corn but then on soybeans we picked up right out of bushel say I don't know if we got enough to pay for the product. But again we need to do a little more work. The thing is is can we cut the fertilizers out and then maintain that that yield and I think the answer that's yes. Was what we're seeing in other areas. That's the beauty with extreme AG is Matt gets to go first Chad and I are usually second and then then the others so somewhere else hit it right in time right on time. We hope hey Lee when they say the others they mean that somebody when they finally get when it's finally not still frozen tundra in June. That means you I'm always the outlier. So we're laying Polly pipe by the end, right? Yeah. All right. Hey, I want to hear from Lee speaking of Lee. Lee used a source used a product Source at VT and you actually had something good to tell us because a lot of stuff you said I didn't get a good sample because the weather we had but Yeah, we got 550 Acres of source, and we elected to try it at VT and on corn and historically in our area we've done how many trials and VT corn never can getting to pay. So it went and we took 550 Acres down the East End of the county we had about a thousand acres down there in corn and we knew that's where we want to do our trial. So when we did our second pass top dress on corn we had to reduce it 25 units we go. Hey, let's let's test this Theory let's let's commit to it, you know. So we did so right there money mate as long we go as long as this works money made. Money saved his money made that'll be profit. And let's say on the long term sustainability, you know this this could be huge not, you know cutting 25 units. So we had a plane early apply it. And those fields stood out 20 to 30 bushel over everything else we had in that area and they sprayed when it was too Breezy. They were trying to get it on so a distort our untreated strips, but I could still seem on the yield Maps this fall and then interestingly I was talking to the landlord that we applied it on in December and he's retired and he's a very astute business minded guy and he goes how did that corn do so I told him what each field did I showed him and and going through it? And he just sat back and disbelief because he says you know what? He says. I'm retired now I go to the coffee shop and he said not even the coffee shop crowd has that high yields? He said you guys smoke everybody and we saved 25 units fertilizer. So that's huge for the environmental impact, too. I I think this is what and we may even record about this if we have it. We will Kelly has a good story about using this we both think that we're going to have more scrutiny about our utilization of things like nitrogen is a big buzzword right now and nitrous emissions are being scrutinized places like the Netherlands if we can reduce our nitrogen we're going to be rewarded for that and the problem is do we do that but we also lose yield Kelly. Yes, you know like Temple for example in the Chesapeake Bay. He can't put on much phosphorus and you know, I started out with carbon credits obviously a little bit known for that. And now we're talking about greenhouse gases and nitrous oxide and nitrous emissions and and we're gonna need to reduce our nitrogen and I believe that a lot of farmers think that to do things like this or to farm sustainably comes with a yield penalty and I'm here to tell you that when you conduct a research that we are and you go down the path that we are going down. I don't believe that that's true. I think that if we learn what's going on in the soil, which we have barely scratched the surface. We don't know. We don't know much at all. It's the final frontier if you will. Sources of product like that, you know, and I have learned and I have to give all the credit to Mike Evans I have learned from him. That it isn't always about building the soil. It's about balancing it and when we can achieve that balance that can come in a very sustainable Manner and sources are great example of that. I will tell you I've learned that we need to have 10 parts phosphorus for every one part zinc. And I will also tell you that we need seven Parts carbon for every one part of nitrogen. A lot of farmers. Don't talk about carbon because nobody tries to sell it to them. Well, if you can achieve one seven Parts carbon for every one part of nitrogen, we'll unlock a lot of yield potential and the Holy Grail of farming especially in Iowa is to turn up the anhydrous. And it in a high yield area. You can be screwing up that ratio. We you know, we have talked about this in our own Farm Mike and I have had a lot of discussions about this and we already were variable rating our nitrogen. We actually have turned it down even more now in a high yield area and Mike believes that in a high yield area with the amount of anhydrous. We're putting on we were getting down to a four to four or five to one and screwing up that ratio. So this spring we turn the nitrogen down 15 or 20 percent on a half section field this a 300 acre field. That's a half section and we applied Source on 250 Acres. So there's an incredible amount of opportunity here for side by side comparisons. This trial was replicated many times and 250 Acres of Source on a 300 acre field nitrogens turn down. This is on a corn on cornfield Drive land. In a low yield area It produced seven to 10 bushel over the whole the whole 50 acres. We averaged a 24 bushel yield increase and in a high yield area where that ratio is really coming into play in a high yield area in this is in reference to Kevin Matthews 49.69 bushel. You know, hey Evans, do you got anything on this since you're obviously the voice of agronomics over there at Garrett Landing Cattle? Yeah, so this field. Was we called it a dog when it came up. It looked like it looked rough. And then we sprayed with Source it turned around. And we didn't know much about Source when we started down this path with what their product could do, but working with them and what they had they showed us some data. That kind of explain what we're seeing what Kelly's talking about. They have a numerous tissue samples and when they apply Source where they didn't the tissue samples increase and it's not just the nitrogen increase but like calcium things that help nitrogen once you get in the plant so those are coming into the plant. So it's it's we talked about nature a lot. But it's also all the other things that we need to help assimilate that nitrogen and plant that it's helping doing that. It's stimulating that soil to let those nutrients be available to the plant. Yeah, that's about sound I will move on to concept Agate couple things. I want to remind you to your listener. We're meeting again on February 2nd. That's the next webinar on February second. We are having another webinar. The subject is addressing your spring fertility program for a fast start addressing your spring fertility program for a fast start. That's February 2nd 7pm Eastern 6 PM central time. It is the extreme AG webinar Thursday, February two. Also we're gonna be at the Machinery show February 14th told you about the already and then commodity classic in March. You can go there for free. If you are an extreme AG member concept Agate Tech, we we've you know, what I was in a field miles farms in May and we talked about bio health and we talked about it on a video and we had you guys we had Rob we we went through all this Matt and Lane bio health concept tiger Tech talk to us. Yeah, the bow Health we had we had a cotton. We had a soybean. We had a corn trial this year. All of them were positive roast all of them had bow health and me and to be honest with you. We had a pretty big drought this year. And you know, they were one of The Shining points of our our soybean trials that there was a positive Roi but each one of those had bow Health in it bow health is a plant agent. A plant Health agent that has some fungicidal type. I mean so you can use fungicide in two ways. You can use fungicide as to prevent disease or as plant health and bio health is something that can kind of do the same thing. It's not a fungicide but it can do the same thing with the plant house side, you know without the without, you know, being a fungicide. So I remember our man Trey was in your field and he was very cautious to never let it be said that his product is he fungicide but as you just said it is a it is a plant Health agent. which has fungicidal properties that will increase yield not controlling disease just increase yield because we use fungicide as much for increasing yield as we do for actual diseases. So it was it was in all of our trials all of them were really big. I mean two pounds and cotton 12. I think it was 12 9 bushes on soybeans and four bushes on corn and all of them included bottle Health that's going to be something that'll probably be growing standard practice for us this year farmwide a quick and dirty on concept from Chad about the bio health aspect of it. You used it you like it. So we we use it on wheat. We actually done this last couple years. We would split a farm field or Farm or however you have it with, you know, our normal fungicide program and then we would come in there with that and split it with other side and we can't find it in the field. I mean and so yeah. No, it's not yielding more or anything else. But the cost is I would say according to what fungicide use anywhere from we're down to a third to a half, you know, so it's still making money regardless. So we really like the product and we'll be using more of that product from the same points that Matt was talking about. Got it. We're gonna move on to ads before we do. Hey, man, and Kelly since you guys have made light of our friend Kevin and his usage of decimal points. I think that his goal. I just looked it up here is Akira heragucci. Nobody probably knows about Akira here Gucci but in the year 2006, he now holds the unofficial record. He has recited the digits of pi to 100,000 digits. He can go to 3.1415 and keep going for a hundred thousand digits. I think that that is what our man Kevin wants to do. He wants to be able like Akira to just say all the digits of pie for he did it for 16 hours. By the way, he started at 9am and talked for 16 hours about the digits of pie. Congratulations Kevin for making me think about that ads Lee talk to me what I got Temple without tell me about three hours three more you probably just hey, I got something on that bunch of bugs if you want if real quick. Do what were you saying? I said I got something on bunch of bugs if you okay Kevin power Matthews or Point Matthews. All right bunch of bugs and it's in a Flash. All right in a Flash so this year, you know, we put a trial in for concept Agate on bunch of bugs. We tried it a bunch of different ways. So here's what it is in the check. This irrigated. It was 248 where we used a phosphorus efficiency product. It was 252 where we use just straight bunch of bugs. It's 253. Now when we ate at the bunch of bugs to a phosphorus efficiency product, it jumped all the way to 266. It's a 18 bushel an acre difference side by side big trials. They were all 10 acres side by side. That's what we saw that the point that I wanted to make to all these guys out there when you're talking about the XA guys that are constantly sending it push the envelope we're eating more products to it. And we're and a lot of these things they have a ton of synergy and they all work together and we're figuring it out little by little this is where this is where rubber meets the road I like it. And also you just gave some really good numbers. And and that's that's a great story ads Liam. I'll lead off with you. You just said you didn't have your rain. Why do you need drainage from our friends at ads when you don't even have any rain? Oh water management is always important. We are not into pattern tile but more our problem areas and our drawers running through Fields the the spots that always us. So this spring we're able to plant draw those areas great seed bed great stands and in areas where like every other year you just fight fight and then we only had really three good grains in the whole growing season one before planning one right after and then one in now August and we had the one right after the day after we got done and three to four inches of rain and it was a hard grain and we did have a few drowned out spots every place. We had tile no drowned out we had 100% stand and then harvesting this fall what those spots are. Usually that would or the areas would drag your yield down. Those are the areas of help bring the field average is up and I could the pick it out in the yield Maps analyzing it after harvest literally could see where we tiled in every field. Miles Farms you're now in year, two after your first drainage system went in am I right? What are you seeing? We just got through with the first year first crop year. Yeah. But it was one of the most single most important things we've done to our farm on that type of ground. So, you know, we've done it in the Delta. That's something that's new to the Delta but it's gonna be a game changer for sure. It was over Tim bushel. We're looking at a hundred fifty to 180 dollar an acre Roi or increase in bushels of the payback's gonna be short. And it's just something that you know other than sustainability and water cleanliness and different things like that. It's probably probably one of the most important things we've done on our farm and Lane you agree or disagree since we've since we started farming Absolutely, and we've got a trial going this winter just as far as getting water off get water on. So what we did this fall is still ongoing right now. Chad has a good point about the benefit of once you get good drainage on your farm with a system like ads Chad. You said consistency of planting? Yes, that's where we're looking at it down here. You know, we there's a lot of you know, we got some tile lines that run through obviously in Alabama and there's a little bit of pattern tiling but we have as much as anybody and we just done too farms and and it's just the consistency of planting is real for us. It would be spots in the field with our Smite slightly rolling ground that it would be dry enough and ready to plant. Well, then you would miss that window trying to wait on the other window and we're talking about when we miss it. We're not talking about a day or two we're talking about Eight to ten days. Well now those areas are just as dry when other one is so it's gonna be huge the first Farm we've done the first year is 180 acre block and we might have planted, you know, say I would say a hundred and forty of it 130 of it. Well this last year when we planted it. We planted a 178 Acres of it. So it's just it was a game changer for us and we planted it and that's on the same time. The other was it would be a month plant date difference, you know, we all know the stories of oh we needed a child this bottom because it produced nothing but there was seven acres on there that we produce that what we haven't never raised a crop on the irrigator was walking over and we tiled it now. We was mad at it. We touted on 15 foot centers, you know, and the rest of the farm is on 30s, but we've taught on 15 foot centers and the first year out we hit some 300 bushel corn in it. So we're really impressed with that, you know, and and it's just gonna be a real the real deal for us. You know far is moving these Farms forward and pieces that we can't. Speaks, you know and we're not even you know, we we discretion service on the lift stations. We're gonna be measuring the water. You know, we know for a fact that from October to December on our wheat ground the middle of the trial we're doing now on a week deal with the tie on it that we pumped 357,000 gallons off this thing and in this time frame, you know, and and the next piece of this is we're gonna start measuring these nutrients, you know to know what we're moving from across the field. So so we're really impressed with it and it's been a good company to pair with Folks at ads, you know, Darla Michael and the team that they've got there and McCain engineering with and Excavating and all that when it done our work out of Kentucky. I think the good thing is stay tuned, you know, you're only in like your two mats and Matt Lane are down there and you're one and then Lee's gonna keep adding to it each year. So stay tuned on that. Hey before going further. We got two questions. We had a question from well, it looks like somebody just went to answer those. Also I was gonna get to the the Question, but let's go and take this one. Do you? The the one I just answered so everybody else if they didn't see it. So the question was how many pounds of nitrogen per bushel do we strive for? We actually had this question come in over the weekend and we all filled in. I was point seven to point eight eight pounds per bushel. Yeah, Matt. That's right. I was Point Matt. He's got a bigger budget and I do he just puts a pound out but that's where Chad and I both come into that point seven to point eight. And and the whole group is all pretty much under one bushel. I mean one pound for bushel. I do believe and I defend myself and I need to defend myself. I'm on really low CC's and it's hard to be able to get that one and we've gotten to the one but I mean some of that she's in pivot bio and and sound sound products to get to that point. So it's a harder and some of the sand here. So another good Other good thing you got the that's a well it's not a good thing. It's actually a difficult thing you Furrow irrigate there. So you can't just drive something and do the top dressing in a wide Drop Like Chad and Kelly and myself can do so you you have different obstacles. You got to fight to maintain that we're a little better off where we are because we're we can get out there with the ground rig put out several applications and keep a low rate for bushel. That's another question. Do you use bio health during the vegetative stage for Plant Hall there to use it and reproductive stage and replace a fungicide anybody. It's our fungicide all the time. But if we if we're growing varieties that don't have that has disease resistance, then we'll use that in place and fungicide. Sometimes we use both it but it goes out of the same time. We would put out a fungicide normally now on our mind we went what's the two Grow stages we went on the beans. That was one of our biggest yield. I think it was nine bushel. So we did it at 32 ounces of bio health and 10 ounces of Sweet Success, but I know it was R3 and R1, right? I'm gonna move on now to Pro Farm formerly called moron bio and we're gonna go with Chad real quick and dirty. He just told us early on it's hard to get a big yield bump change. He's never getting a big yields on his wheat beans meaning that double crop beans, but he used a product from Rome bio and an attitude bushels. What was it? Yeah. Well, you know, we've been tested and playing last couple years with their Haven and Oh, hey Karen, drew a blank position. There you go. Thank you. And also merging they get they've got it as well and they've got it now in a liquid form, you know, it was dry and got it liquid form now, but we we really like these products and it's a lot of the same land, you know that we're talking about here with it helps with the fungicide activities in it and actually this year, you know, we had a lot of fertility going on so and on our double crop means and obviously fertilities not the deal, you know on where we're at and where we're testing about Farms. We're testing mat. And so we went with the we also had this going on on the farm and it was one of the only things that showed a plus and it was it was too bushel, and it was those two products together. So From Maroon bow which is now profarm and it was Pacesetter and Haven, you know, so we realized that they go out with fungicide as well. So here you got a good you set a big goal in 2022. It was all about stress mitigation. You said we're gonna reduce stress on the crops because I think we got adequate nutrition out here. I think we have too much stress and you are very happy with the stressman engagement results and component of Haven and Pacesetter Yes, so I've got two trials here one one is on irrigated soybeans and this is a point. I want to make about stressification products. I want to talk about a little bit about you know, the how the Waters of mitigate that's mitigating Factor like Matt talked about the Haven and Pace Setter on irrigation produce the half a bushel yield increase So it actually did lose ten dollars. So the water there mitigated enough stress that that we didn't need to stress mitigation products, but on a dry on a dry yield setting, you know, I think that speaks to the value of net of him and nutrigrip as well and what the water can do for you on a dry yield on a dry land farm here. We this this was replicated three times and it rains from a you know, from a three bushel all the way up to a 13 bushel yield advantage and we had a four and a half bushel average. So it it costs 14 dollars and 83 cents an acre produced just about $47 that money that's the value stress mitigation. Even in Pacesetter a great products. You know, it was very dry here this year very hot, you know along with Lee and these are these are great products that will continue to use and research the return again. Was he spent 14 to get 48 to what I heard we spent we It just about 15 and it netted out 47. So we you know, it's more like a 62 dollar return gross. Got it. It's okay, Kevin. We didn't take that to the seventh decimal Boron and US borax Boron and US borax Chad is normally our go-to we talk about boron and I think when it comes us borax Chad and Kevin have one big message for you ease of use anything else. Yeah, I mean, I'll go first that's that's the big point of you know, everybody's worried about these bags. You know that they've got we haven't had I haven't had any trouble that or writing mixing bad for the top of the sprayer whichever way you want to go with it. We we just use it. It's I can't really go back. You know, we we kind of quit testing it, you know, it's just comes to the point where it's just to grow our standard practice and we just Put it out because a lot of times on on certain trucks like you got a tanker truck or other things. You can't put another toe down. So it's a good product stole a bag on there or blend it up. It'll go into solution stays up good, you know and mix it with in a tanker low, but that's that's where shines with us. Say it and we'll put some out even with a planner and a two all the way up side dress, you know all the way through, you know, we don't ever stop with it, but it's definitely easy the views. Oh you Kevin would you say that coming like you as borax product make you fourteen point three three seven percent more efficient with their ease of use product. I actually had probably a little higher than that because we hot mix there to facility the nice thing about hot mixing it is we we bring that whole tanker load out to the field and it stays in solution. We're not having to agitator or anything just you know, just driving down the road getting it to it. It stays there don't it? Don't separate out. It's real easy to put in and it handles. Well, we just keep a pallet sitting there under the shed. And and when we're loading it we dump it in and it just dissolves goes right in there quite easy. It's even better. You know, when Kelly comes out and carries a few bags when we be showed up yet. You know. Yeah, everybody likes to see him work Lee you top dressed corn and people thought you're crazy because you're gonna burn it up with Boron didn't happen. Since we're a dry guys, we use the granular product and just like the guys that are using the liquid what we love about it stays where it's supposed to you can blend it up with your urea does not settle out the mix and we have applied in high humidity even with due on the plans and No Leaf burn so been very impressed with it. Moving on to the tea. Thank you moving on to Teva when we were getting ready to go here this evening when we said who's user stuff and Matt and Lane said we use sea cat every year on every pass and I guess that's a great example right there. We're not talking about a product trial. We're not talking about testing and see if it works. You just use it. We do. I mean that's it's a grower standard practice for us that that product will buffer salt it it gets nutrients into the plant it just there. There's so many advantages to it that we use it on about every pass we make we use that I mean the complex infero. I know we're not talking about it for all your the mmts sugar is really easy to mix it works well too and and I have a product called insert, which is a micro Nutri pack and we use a lot of that a lot of that. We were in come out of the classic in the booth Chad with Mark Coots from Teva and you talked about the sugar. I think that was the first product of theirs that you began using in your in your in season applications, right? Yeah, one of their guys Mr. Charlie he put me on sugar back in the days when I was when I was able to go to the Memphis to the farm show Matt. And so we started sugar back then and they're count their mmts products, but I'm like mad the sea cat goes on whatever nitrate application and also the complex, you know, people get worried about using pgr, you know, because some of them we need to use in a vegetative side someone we using in the reproductive side. Well, if you're nervous about that complex the ones you use on both, um, somebody can explain it a lot better than me, but it's kind of guy. It's natural enzymes. If I'm doing this correctly anybody on here, please jump in and correct me but it's got a natural ability to produce the same things that's pgr do sales Is that right? so you hey, by the way, just because we haven't heard from your send it twin for a while. Hi Temple you anything force on Teva? So we're gonna go to our last sponsor. I'll just out I'll touch back on ccat again, you know that we talked about that. That's it's something that's very important to people especially with with your wheat applications coming up, you know. We put it in all of our fertility. It buffers a ton of salt. You're gonna talk about top dressing wheat here coming up soon. And you're you're not gonna see any burn from that when you put that in your fertility you're going over the top. I it just it's really a game changer, but I think it's hard for us to hold talk about a lot of these products because it's just become such a grower standard practice. You know, it's it's kind of hard to talk about it when it pays off and you get to the ROI. What more do we have to say? Yeah, you know as I got one more thing on that, you know, we also use their accelerate. In a tuba to me and Mark come up with that product a few years back, you know and named it but it's something that they Blends up and he can another thing they can blend a lot of stuff up over to match. whatever you Whatever you think that you need for certain situation. I don't know if we're supposed to be going out there that say he's just a custom blender and he'll make up a point or whatever you want. But I'd say what my story I don't forgive us about a blazing hot day and he got that little sugar meter thing that took a garlic a garlic Smasher and took a corn leaf and I got to say if Coots is listening to this. You taught me something right there, which isn't hard to do because you know you guys all know so much. Okay our last products we're gonna talk about we're gonna talk about integrated AG Solutions. So we just covered a lot of our business partners integrating Solutions is actually a company with Kelly and Lee. So we want to make sure that we got through all the all the folks that we partner with and we're gonna hear about a couple of products from Kelly and leagues I use it to great success as well as Temple and some of the other guys so Integrated Solutions Kelly what's in the great Solutions and what other products and what are you integrated egg Solutions is a small retail business that Mike Evans Mike windgrove and I own we started it because after after Extreme extra started I could see that there's a lot of products that weren't really available in my area and I felt like, you know, we needed to start this business and Become dealers of these products. So they were available for my farm. You know first it was Evans and I in the spring or the you know, the fall of 20 and then windgrove came on the next year. And you know, I've said before how many things I've learned from Lee. He's like my older brother all these guys are the first product is making a girl which is a vegetative pgr that we put on in soybeans this year. We had a five to eight bushel yield response on these the second I'm gonna go through all the products and yield and then, you know, Mike and Lee can really give you the egg overview of them because they're smarter than I am and shield we had one field where we had a three and a half bushel yield and shield is a stress mitigation product solely stress mitigation three and a half bushel game in one corner field by Sac City, Iowa on my farm. We had a nine and a half bushel yield gain. I would tell you there's a lot more rain by Sac City on that customers feel and the third product would be energized, you know that was back on. Corn help trial the tiered approach that we had energized is the reproductive pgr. We we added 31 bushel on dry land corn huge response really shows the value of that product and how it you know that the pgrs I learned from Mark Kutz pgr's make the plant more efficient. And I I think that was a really big thing this year, you know from a stress mitigation property is how they how they work. It was great. The final one is a human acid and this goes back to farming sustainably and turning down your nitrogen bringing your bringing your soil into balance. The humic acid was applied in the side dress at a half gallon rate four dollar and 50 Cent application return 25 bushel. The human acid isn't fertility at all Damian. It's just it's liquid carbon and I would tell you that I believe that this works so well because it brought that ratio and the balance the seven to one carbon the nitrogen This is the second time we've talked about carbon and nitrogen balance. Mike Evans real quick integrating Solutions. You're the expert here. What do I need to know about what he just said and layman's terms because I'm not quite as agronomically inclined as you Excuse me. Um, so like humic acid. It is. So basically you got humates or to the dry form of. Of humic acid that's there were derived from and then humic acid and then fulvic acid. So I always call hemic acids the bigger molecule. So they'll help. Expand your CC and your soil when you apply them with your nitrogen help more sites more bonding and then also helps chelate those nutrients in the soil. So you get kind of a tubing effect with it when you put it with nitrogen. You can hold the Nitro longer any you can help the nutrients get up in the plant. So that's that's one of the humic acid. Um simple used a thing called Mega grow, which is one of the products that was mentioned there with this joint venture between Evans windgrove Kelly and Lee by the way. Did Kelly say Lee I can't say in the bottom is like my older brother. I mean you said older couple of times. I think he said so is everybody else is what he said exact words. So is everybody else that was his exact words. Lee what do you think about that? He's saying that all of us are his older brothers is laying his older brother. Not at all. I'm not as older brother. That's just that's just sharing some what's made you grow. What's it do for you? Why do you use it? All right. Let me tell you about Mega not a story deal. No you shut up. I got this sit back relax. It's at the end I got from now until you shut me down. So look, here's the deal with mega grow. Mega grow is a two-part as a two-string pgr. What's very important is for us in our area every area is different but we need to build the roots. We need to build a big root system because if we don't every ounce of fertilizer, I need to up take every ounce if I don't get that fertility into that plant. I lose it or see Caesar low, we can't put on very much because our nutrient management plan. So make it grow is very very it's the one of the biggest parts of our plan. It goes in Furrow and then we come back we're building the roots with it. Again. We're building this Factory, but we're also trying to keep a factory running so infero it goes building the roots comes back on our first herbicide program or her first herbicide pay us when we're making it hurt first herbicide past. Plants go through a period of you know, yellow Flash Lee calls and yellow flash. I call it like plant standstill. It looks like a micronutrient deficiency is what it looks like this stuff can actually help trigger the plant to help it metabolize that chemistry way faster. So what would you guys do to add three to four days to your growing season? Because when it goes through that yellow flash it there's plants are actually shutting down for a minute to get their stuff back together so they can grow again. I'm getting ahead of that. Again. This whole plan is being ahead of that curve. That's where Mega go Falls in. The important thing to remember is is all these pgrs have different triggers to trigger the plant to do different things. If you use Mega grow in the wrong area, you can have negative results. So always vegetative never reproductive. We got reproductive pgrs that work very very well. You just don't but you don't want to reverse those two. I've done that in my past again me and Chad send it I've sent it and it was a way I mean, I can't tell you how bad it was like we had ears with like shoots on the end of it. I was like man, we got a lot of tip back. It was like four inches long. It's because I did these things but this is how you learn. So yes, I'm very excited about that product. It works very well. It will go in every acre of corn and beans for me and Furrow and on my first pace and herbicide. Lee without telling me to shut up like Temple did which is very disrespectful and without and without referring to you as anybody's older sibling. Would you tell us your wrap up here on the company Integrated Solutions and the products and how you can use them or how our listeners can use them for bigger benefit? Well, the things they've been talking about are things. We've been working with for years and researching. Interesting things about Mega grow it is the only pgr that's actually patented as a Roundup safer. And that's where Temple referring to the tie up in the plant the term yellow flash. That's actually manganese tie up in the plant Stow as you plan out you do that to a soybean plant. You could lose one entire node. So if you spray Roundup, we always have it in because it's gonna keep that plant from shutting down. Another interesting thing is people complain in a tough fall or a big win situation like oh a lot of ear drop. Well, yes that is dictated by fertility and genetics but the one common theme every time ear drop we Shanks is a indicator of side to kind of deficiency. You need to apply a pgr. And you need to do that in for early in the season see those things up on tail. They can come back and bite you right before the combine pulls in the field. By the way, I think that we just called it a game. I think I just heard somebody like blow the whistle and say we're done right now. So is there there was a by the way one little comment from a person named Eric Reed it was over there that wanted us to know that Teva sugar is derived from Cain and he's he's big fan of it. So that's one of our members if you are a member and you want to go to come out of the class. Remember our our business partner Natures is teaming up with us go on the website extreme AG dot Farm by January 20th, because the offer will expire by January 20th, if you want to go you can do so for free, but you guys again here another thing if you want to join us February 14 because nothing says romance and love like hanging out and talking about how to get bigger yields bigger crops. Actually. The subject will be covering we're gonna talk about how these guys make machine read decisions. Why because we're gonna be at the national. I'm sorry the North American farm machinery show. So what better topic then talk about Machinery, we're gonna be there you're gonna hear from all the extreme ad guys on a panel about how they make farm equipment decisions what they've learned what they've done wrong what they've done right? And Things that you can then put into your operation. We're going to be doing that on February 14th. That is a Tuesday night before the kickoff of the farm machinery show in Louisville. Five to seven thirty PM five to seven thirty PM Louisville time. We're gonna have a reception come there. You get a free drink or six we don't care and you get to hear from us and you're gonna have a good time February 14th farm machinery show with us. You've got to go on you got a respond to your email invitation and say yes, I am going so we have a head count because we will close we will close attendance at a certain point. Thursday February 2nd is our next webinar. We're gonna be talking about addressing your spring fertility program for a fast start. That's what we're going to be doing February 2nd. So I just give you three dates February 2nd, February 14th. Those are important things next webinar farm machinery show. I give you January 20th because that's the date you need to go on to the extreme agency.farm website and register. If you want to go to come out of the classic you can go for free thanks to Nature's only if you're paying member of extreme ad until next time. We are extremag and we're having a hell of a 2023 already and we're gonna make it even better stay with us. It's gonna be a great journey until next time extreme AG Damian Mason on behalf of all these cool people.