00:00 This is Wayne Boden from West Central Missouri and we're out here in A-B-A-S-F plot. Today. We got Matt Miles from Arkansas, 00:06 which is extreme Ag with Extreme ag. We got Caleb Helwig with BASF and we're talking about overlaying residuals. 00:13 Caleb, why don't you tell us what you think about that and what your plans are? So, Wayne and I talked earlier this spring 00:18 and if we'd only know what the weather was gonna do, we maybe could have done a little better job. But, um, our goal was, is to put a good solid residual down. 00:27 In this case we use Roundup, uh, two four D and UA Pro down, uh, well ahead of planting. And then we planted E three beans 00:34 and we come back with, uh, with liberty and list and some more ua. I always like to overlay the same active ingredients on the 00:42 same acre as I kind of say. It builds your gas tank back up. Yeah. So if your gas tank was down to a quarter tank, 00:47 we just took it back up to a full tank and that gives us the kind of residual we need to get through a long growing season in our part of the world 00:53 and try to get these beans up in canopy without having some of those water hemp come back in our back door. 00:58 Well, and the best weed you ever have is one you never see and the only way you can do that is overlapping residuals. 01:04 And you know, 10, 15 years ago we didn't have resistant weeds. That wasn't as big a deal back when Roundup killed. 01:09 Everything didn't matter. Right. You know, in today's world with these resistant weeds, if you don't overlay residuals, 01:15 you're gonna get in some type of trouble. Before the year's over with, And this part of the world, it didn't matter what kind 01:20 of products we used in some of our burn downs, we fought some of the most difficult, uh, weed control situations that I faced in my 23 year career. 01:27 Oh, I'm sure. BSF. It was just brutal. Seemed like nothing we did was at the right time for the way the weather was working. 01:32 Yeah. And so, uh, sometimes we put some products down that have some pretty good horsepower. In this case, SUA Pro really helps on that burn down 01:39 and that made the difference in this field, in this comparison this year. 'cause that little extra help in the burn down 01:45 kind of took 'em on down. And then that sua that's in there gives you a really good base for, uh, water hemp and grasser uh, residual 01:52 Of all the residuals. To me sua is the, is the Cadillac, you know, I mean for, for several reasons. 01:58 One, the, the use rate, you know, instead of having totes on your trailer, you know you've got jugs on your trailer. 02:03 Right. Number two, the amount of time between when you apply the residual in the rainfall, you know, some of these other products 02:09 that we've used in the past, if you don't get a rain within the next, you know, five to seven days, they basically deteriorated and went away. 02:16 And ua how long will it last? I mean it least For a rain. It just is very stable on the surface. 02:20 Very stable on residue. Mm-Hmm. So that's why we like it from them in no-till Yep. Situations too. Or if you got like wheat residue in our part 02:26 of the world we got double crop beans. Mm-Hmm. So we use ze in a lot of different places in a lot of different ways. 02:32 Um, and in this case we use UA Pro, which is a mixture of three products. Yeah. And then we needed that kind 02:37 of horsepower in the burn down because so many times we don't know what we're gonna face. We may have little weeds, 02:41 but Wayne, there's a lot of years we've faced some pretty big ones. Oh yeah. And the next thing you know, we have little weeds 02:45 in your rate to spray and then rain sets in and next thing you know they're a foot high and you know you're in trouble. So, 02:51 Well, aren't I correct to say isn't Zi do another thing? I said two three, the amount of rainfall 02:56 to activate it is about half of some of these, these other products that are residual. Yeah. It takes around three half 03:02 to three quarters of an inch of rain Yeah. To get activated and some of the encapsulated products, some of the other products that, you know, three quarters 03:08 to an inch of rain. Yeah. That's one thing too. I try to put the attributes of the product in the right, um, situation 03:14 for when Wayne uses them. Hopefully he's got a pretty good experience. Mm-Hmm. And we can't always do it 03:19 because we don't know what the weather's gonna do. Right. But if I know Wayne's gonna farm a certain way, I put the right product in place 03:24 that hopefully gives us at least the best odds of success. Yeah. It doesn't always happen. 03:28 And we have to retreat some things here and there and whatever, and BSF and I'm here to help when that happens too. 03:34 But in cases we try to put our best foot forward and put the best plan forward. Yeah. And then deal with whatever Mother Nature gives 03:40 Us. Yeah. 'cause it's gonna be different every year. You just gotta go with what you think is the safest, you know, route. 03:45 And you look at some of these products and you say, well this is too expensive. Well we seen in the other plot 03:50 that it wasn't too expensive. Oh yeah. Because It's becoming more expensive really quick. But do wanna farm like that? Do we wanna farm like this? 03:56 We wanna farm like this. Mm-Hmm. You know, and like I said, back when Roundup killed everything, I, I don't think there's a problem anymore in 04:02 today's world, but when that first started happening with the resistant weeds, farmers didn't wanna put out residuals. 04:07 I was one. Oh oh. Right. Yeah. Oh, Roundup kills everything. Mm-Hmm. You know, we found out, I found 04:10 that out the hard way that that's not happens anymore. So having a good residual program, you know, especially when you do something like UA Pro 04:17 where you've got everything out there, you know, you've got the full football team there, not, not a seven man team. 04:23 Right. Right. So on this over here where we did that line, so what do you think the yield drags gonna be? 04:28 Where the like standard practices that we didn't have as good or weed control. I mean, versus the chemical program that's costing 04:35 so much more to try to catch up with it, you know, what's it gonna cost us in yield? So what's our overall hit 04:39 or cost gonna be compared to this? It's, That's why we're doing the test here today. Yeah. Because when that combine runs this fall, 04:45 we'll know the answer to that question and that'll be something that you'll know for your farm. Right. And I'm sure it's gonna be, it's gonna be several 04:50 Bushels. What do you think it's gonna be? I think three bushel easy. Yeah. Well see you're looking even at 04:55 today's price, 30 bucks. Right, right. You know, 30 bucks an acre just, just in yield drag alone. 05:00 So how much more residual or how much more of a, of a quality residual program can you put out for 20 bucks and still make 10? 05:07 Right. Right. You know, I was gonna guess in more five Mm-Hmm. And plus plus the difference in the late season trying 05:13 to catch up cost of herbicide. Well you're, that's high price too. You're Also gonna be sowing seeds over here when you cut. 05:19 True. You're not gonna be sowing seeds here. We'll Be dealing with it next year. Yep. So There's a bunch of win-win situations 05:25 by never seeing that weed come up. True.