00:00 Well, you probably already saw, I was in Alabama with Chad in May and we were talking about kind of some cool stuff they're doing with Stoler, uh, on some labs. 00:08 One of 'em was talking about your hormones being imbalanced. So Chad's now joining me at GLC Farms here with Kelly Garrett and Mike Evans in 00:14 Iowa. We're talking about Theto proxies near the hormone imbalance thing was one of the most educational interviews I've been a part of. 00:22 But what we're excited about now is a product called Excite. What's excite, how are you using it and how's that gonna differ from what they're doing here in 00:28 Iowa with their trial using Excite? You know, I don't know if it differs much at all, really, to tell you the truth on how we're using it. We're gonna use it in the, 00:34 this same matter, but we are looking at it in two completely different, uh, areas, soil types. Um, but most plant stages will be about the same. You know, 00:43 are You going down that road again saying that the soil is different here than it is in North Alabama? I 00:47 Would definitely say that the soil is different here than it is North Alabama. Before I kick it over to my friend Mike Evans, lemme just tell you something. 00:51 Evans is like the best, uh, agronomy dude we ever talked to here. Mm-hmm. At Extreme Mag, he saw soil, uh, 00:57 samples from my farm in I in Indiana. And you know what he did? I dunno if he was insulting you or me, but he said, your soil sucks. 01:04 It's just like Chad Henderson's down in Madison, Alabama. Oh no. He just meant we can show up and show out. I guess he, 01:09 he's bluffed by you. He's scared by you. It's like a card game. He really don't want you to get in. 01:13 That's probably it. All right, Evan, so besides insulting my soil and his, tell me about the products you're using from Stoler and what you're excited 01:20 about. Uh, yeah. So we got this lab we're doing with them. We're gonna be doing, uh, using their product called Stimulate Yield Enhancer Plus. So it's a, 01:28 it's a four way pg r using it in the post pass. We've actually laid that down in the lab here about last week on the corn. So put that in there. Looking at that. It's got, you know, erum, 01:38 it's got Cytokinin, oxens, and I apologize, but I forget the fourth one off the top of my head. But, uh, it's got two forms of oxen, excuse me, IA and iba. So I don't know 01:47 What those two things mean. I'm not sure a lot of our Listeners do. So it's endo, butyric, acid, and endo. I can't say the Iaa. Does that help you at all? Cause they didn't help 01:55 Necessarily, but what's Working? But there're two different forms of oxen. One's more of a quick shot, and the other one's more of a 02:00 Long, and the purpose of putting an oxen in short and long does roots And 02:03 Shoots. Okay. So it gives, it gives you root development. So Kelly's nodding in his head. The thing that you're looking at obviously is, 02:09 but you're the one that's like, gotta bring it all together and take his agronomic brain and your business brain and make it a crop. What excites you about these kind of products? 02:16 Is it that different from what we've done before? Or is there some new thing that's kind of the new twist? Yeah. 02:21 Stoller has a different perspective from a lot of the other partners that we work with, especially on the hormones. 02:25 And Jerry Stoller is thought to be the godfather of PGRs. So if we can go and, and tap into that plant growth 02:31 Regulator for the person, Plant growth regulator for the layperson. Mm-hmm. So when you can get to someone of Jerry Stoller's, uh, 02:38 level of knowledge and tap into that database, I'm excited to try these products. You know, uh, here in western Iowa, uh, a fuller application of beans was unheard of in 2020 when we started extreme ag. 02:50 And now look at the different levels of things that we're doing. We're going across our beans four and five times. 02:54 We're going across our corn three times. We've now started R five passes. So I just like a thirst for knowledge. Yeah, let's try more products, 03:03 let's try more things. Let's see what works here because we really are in a very young, uh, a young industry or young at this, and we need to, we need to conduct these. 03:12 And again, going back to Stoller with their knowledge, I'm excited about it. What was Ed once in a meeting? And I, I questioned it, 03:18 but I'm gonna ask the two Iowa guys that if you're, what if there's more than 36 hours of variation between emergence between one plant and another plant, it's like 25% of a deduct of your yield. 03:28 There's some crazy thing like that about even emergence versus non even emergence. 03:31 If you're like off by two days between this plant emerging in this one, that second one's basically a weed. Is that crazy? 03:37 Because I've heard that is that is really a true thing. Well, it's been documented plenty of times. So it's pretty well documented that it, 03:44 that that that's there now for us out here in a no-till environment, you know, we have to live with some air, so, so to speak. 03:51 Variation. Yeah. Some variation. It's just the nature of the beast. There's A product going in furrow like these sugars or like these PGRs. 03:58 Is that going to change that dynamic? Yeah, I would think it would help out. It'll make the plants more aggressive earlier, give them more vigor, 04:06 and hopefully they would come out of the ground like Mike talks about in our no-till setting. And then, uh, 04:11 Chad has been amazed since he's been here looking at a south facing side hill versus a north facing side hill. East and west are the same way. Uh, 04:18 how they're oriented. We struggle with all of that, with the hills, with the no-till. 04:22 And so if we can put a product in furrow to help speed things up or even things out, that's a big help. And, 04:29 And you know what we always get from, look at where me and you were Kelly three years ago and, and where we had a, our in furrow program at, you know, and we was fertility, fertility fity, 04:38 and now we're PGS sugars, you know, and, and things like this. Carbon building blocks, you know, building blocks if you will, you know? Yeah. 04:45 And, and, and look at how much we've changed in that, you know, So the one that we talked about on hormone imbalance, et cetera, 04:51 I thought it was very interesting. And they talked about, you know, really that's, that's where you back it up a lot of soil biology is hormones. 04:57 And I, I'm still learning about all that. Is there, is this the new, is this the new outer space? 05:02 Is this where we're gonna all of a sudden be exploring hormones? Well, You live in our world, we're always exploring, you know, 05:08 people think I'm in outer space half time, you know, so Well, I think, I think so. I think there's a lot of it, a lot of unknown, a lot of education that needs to happen. You know, 05:15 it's just not a common thing for 80% of the farmers out there. And Well, stress is hormone. Hormone is stress. Am I right? 05:21 Yeah. Need and to some degree you need a little bit and stress, right. So, you know, I always, the analogy I'll use is like the Navy Seals, 05:29 they'll break 'em down to build them up, right? So sometimes you gotta have a little stress inherently in the system to break it down, to build it up. So, you know, 05:36 and that the things like we've learned Fromto just talking with their group, you know, once you do stuff like put for PGS and furrow and building blocks, 05:44 you set your plant on a different trajectory of yield than you do. And then I was talking to a grower today about that. 05:50 It's like we used to put starters in around here and be like, oh, it didn't work. Yeah. And everybody's like, I didn't see anything. 05:55 It looked great till about this point. And it never show. Well to some degree we didn't put it in, 05:59 we put it on a different path than we would normal. And we didn't maintain that path, Didn't we put it where it actually needed to be at the time it needed to be, 06:06 and that it had done its job and we expected it do something beyond its job. Yep. Why will you call success? What will you say, man, 06:12 the store thing was a success. I'm excited about it. Using these products and improving the roi, like Chad talked about, we're reducing fertility and we're putting more of these types of products in. 06:21 Mike talked about the education that needs to happen. That's exactly what I mean. When we more, more trials and the thirst for knowledge and increased ROI is what I'm all about 06:30 doing This up front is gonna make it to where maybe we're missing something in the middle of the game, then maybe we should start adding. 06:35 So we we're keeping up with it all along. Yeah. And I think Stoller brings that knowledge of where the gaps need to be filled. Yep. They've, you know, if I've looked at the research, talked to those guys, 06:44 it's put this here, put that here. Yep. So it'd be exciting, like to what Kelly's saying, when do we implement those? 06:49 What do we need to be implement? Because The next one we're talking about is the fungicide treatment. Yeah. You know, and we got, 06:54 are we looking at a sugar mover and some other things that's going in on there. Yep. 06:57 I just wanna ask you one question. Do you feel bad about insulting me and Chad in our soils? Never big, sorry bastard till next time. I'm Damian, Damian Mason with Chad Henderson, 07:07 Mike Evans and Kelly Garrett. These other people coming to you from a field out here in Iowa.