00:00 Welcome to the extreme AG show where every week. If you tune in you'll see America's top Farmers doing what they do producing the Bounty that feeds the 00:09 world and you're gonna see how they do it why they do it. You're also going to see the personal side of Agriculture. Let's get started. 01:07 You are coming to you from McGee Arkansas. In fact standing in one of Matt miles soybean Fields. Matt has won the 01:23 state of Arkansas corn and soybean yield competition on multiple occasions. He's going to share with us today the importance of fungicide treatment how to do 01:32 it when to do it and most importantly why you got to do it to get record yields from your Acres. So Matt, we're staying on this awesome looking soybean field. 01:58 They're about stage R1. You told me are they gonna get hit with fungicide real soon? Actually the it'll be our three. We take a complete 02:07 different approach to to fungicides, you know, a lot of farmers don't even use fungicides. We have made that part of our I guess you would call it almost like our fertility program, you 02:16 know standard practice is what we always say, once you decide this works for me. It's gonna always be what we do. Is it standard practice here? Absolutely. We did three years 02:25 worth of data on fungicide as a plan Health aspect and treated to non-treated was like 13 bushel average over three year period 13 bushels. 02:34 It's growing standard practice for sure. Let's talk about standard practice because as you said there are some farming operations that still think of fungicide as a luxury or 02:43 when crops are really good prices are really good. Yeah, let's do it crop prices are bad and all can't afford it. But you would say no, that's really the wrong way to look at you can in my opinion what 02:52 on our data you can't afford not to. Okay. I'll give you Allergies. Okay, you send your child to school and say 02:58 it's Set 40 degrees. It's not it's not 35 or 25. It's 40 degrees. You're gonna send them in a t-shirt. You're gonna send them a sweatshirt or coat. How you gonna do that? Okay, you won't 03:08 put your kidney coat because it's 40 degrees. Right? So you're gonna take care of that child a plant's just like a child, especially a young bean plant 03:14 like this, you know plants are a lot like humans you take vitamins, probably, right? Okay preventative. That's 03:20 exactly right. It prevents disease prevents different things that can happen to the plant. That's what we consider plan 03:26 Health the biggest impact on a soybean plant or corn or cotton or wheat or whatever is to remove the stress just like you 03:35 would a little child when you send it to school. You're going to put a coat on that child to relieve the cold stress and you know, if it's 03:41 hot you're going to not gonna put them in the coke because you're gonna relieve the heat stress. fungicide relieves stress 03:47 And is used for plant health and we've just seen year multiple years to where you know, it it absolutely more than pays for. Yeah, you not only don't look as a 03:56 luxury you look at as a must have there's just no question. The data has proven it your yields have proven it tell me about the application. Did 04:02 you do anything at time of planting? No, we've toyed with that. We've toyed with R1 application. We still do some plots where you do dual fungicides triple fungicides. 04:11 We're getting the most bang out of our book at the R3 application, you know, the other ones probably are helping a little bit but not most of our data 04:20 shows that are three application just single applications enough that's gonna be the same anywhere around the country. So the person that 04:26 says, all right, I think that he's got a good point here. I'm gonna do a treatment in our three. Am I done then am I gonna come back again and do 04:32 it one more time? Of course. It depends on the year. I'd imagine, you know, the the old way of fungiciding when fungicides first 04:38 started being used. Well you seen disease present you spray the fungicide. Well, you've already let it it's already there. Yeah, so we do it more of what you would say can preventative maintenance. 04:47 You know, we're gonna go ahead and get that plant geared up to resist that disease up front. There has been 04:53 situations where we'd have a disease that got worse at the end of the year as things were starting to play out and we had to do a second fungicide, 04:59 but we're going to mandatory fungicide at R3 no matter what and then you might do another one come back in and do another treatment as you have you ever had to do more than two treatments. No 05:08 never had to do more than two. Have you ever not penciled out a positive Roi by using fungicides on 05:14 soybeans not since we've started keeping the data. Not one single year when you treat with fungicide, you're also putting something else in that tank mix sometimes always 05:23 never sometimes now. We're normally going to run sometimes we've learned that you know, fertility different foliar fertility programs work, you know, they're not a cure-all 05:32 you still got a plants get most of their nutrients from the roots. Okay? Yeah, so you've got to have your base fertility program, but it's just like what we're talking about with the with the 05:41 fungicide on we're leaving stress. If you keep this plant with the nutrients it needs it's going to do a better job. What do you 05:47 say to the operator? That is teetering right now, they're saying I don't know I've done fine without using fun just eyes. I'm not sure this is 05:56 gonna make sense for me. I would say if you're skeptical about it. You're not sure whether you want to do it or not buy one gallon, you know 06:02 do one spot in your field. And and if you gotta yield monitor see, you know, see what you're returning is our data shows is a positive 06:08 pay every year. Everyone has disease and beans the guy up north gonna have white mold. We've never had white mold. He's gonna have SDS we have that limited amount. 06:17 We have frog eye leaf spot they probably don't have that up there. So everybody's diseases are different. But what you got to get the 06:23 mindset at on is that this is bringing positive Roi disease or no disease. Yeah, and you're going to say geographically you got some problem because 06:32 there's never been such a thing as disease as a disease-free or problem-free soybean acre, right? That's exactly right. Got it. 06:38 Thanks, Matt. It is that'd be great to get done today. have the beans laid by yeah, richie'll. Be happy Richie over 06:58 here. but this field looks pretty good. They're clean. They're green. They they look tremendous traditionally went 07:09 like this field was soybeans last year. It should be corn this year. And the reason is disease pressure and insect pressure. 07:15 When you have the same crop after the same crop after the same crop because of the coming demand I see for renewable 07:21 fuels and then the coming demand for soy oil to make renewable fuels renewable diesel specifically, I believe 07:28 that there will be a demand for more soybeans in the coming years next three four, five six years and Beyond so this 07:34 is simply a research field to see if we can grow soybeans after soybeans and make a yield. 07:40 up to expectations I believe that we can but I've never done it before so I got a you know, I got a vetted out. I got a validate the process. I think 07:55 it's going to take some extra nutrition. It's gonna take some extra fertility really dialing in and understanding. What is the correct fertility. I doubt that it's much different 08:04 but there might be something that we tweak a little bit that could make a huge difference in soybeans after soybeans. We just we don't know until we do it. 08:17 You know the potential in this field is tremendous looking at these plants. But I I think that we were gonna wish 08:28 that we had calcium on these because when these pods set on I think it's going to have trouble. The branches supporting themselves. Yeah, I mean 08:37 just looking at these, you know Plano. You know, look at that. Oh week. That is yeah. I mean that's nothing you know and got 08:48 one two, three, four five. We got six six seven nodes on there, you know, there could be 20 pods on there easily. Yeah, it could be 30 pods on 08:57 there. Mm-hmm. and this one's about I mean Look how easily it comes apart. You think the calcium V2 application will be grower standard practice next year. 09:07 The pretty much that looks pretty much button on it. What I don't like about this plant is how easily the branches 09:14 break off and even the stem diameter at the bottom. It's kind of a rubbery plant if that makes sense. 09:21 You don't have a lot of structural support. So that's a problem because they tend to lean over more have issues with 09:29 standing up. Now. These beans aren't very tall because we've used pgrs on them plant growth regulator plants have hormones just like we do each hormone 09:38 has a certain action within the plant. So we use those to regulate nutrients flow up and down the Plant so sometimes 09:47 With the soil and stuff they can get overloaded with one hormone or not and they can become either two 09:53 vegetative and try to grow as tall as I am and we don't want that. So we give them shots of pgr's plant growth Regulators to help help them shorten them up 10:02 and get the nutrients flowing within the plant, you know, the yield is made in the reproductive phase. So we want bean pods like 10:08 these Right here on the plant. We want a lot of these. So we're worried about here. We want to Stack these 10:15 nodes like this. So they're short. I also add structural Integrity to the plant. So if we apply to calcium to this field, we would see 10:23 a lot better structural support at the bottom of the plant the stems would tend to be bigger diameter. We'll have 10:29 a lot more structural support here at the first couple nodes where the branches tend to develop and we'd be able to retain those 10:35 a lot better than we are currently without it. I think these means look great. We catch rain. 10:41 You know rain and rain or two in August, we're not far from August now. I don't think we're gonna catch any in July the forecast anyway, no we 10:50 get a rain. Hey, we'll check back on Kelly Garrett's Iowa soybean following soybean experiment. But now we're in Madison Alabama with 11:24 Chad Henderson talking about tissue sampling where the conversation with aggro liquid got a little heated and I'm not talking 11:30 about the humidity. if you here we are in Chad Henderson's cornfield and we're talking about tissue sampling today. There's going to be a lot of opinions and 11:52 a lot of different perspectives on tissue sampling. Do you tissue sample? I'm guessing you don't because Molly Alexander who's the Southeast Regional grounds for 12:01 aggro liquid says most people don't Stephanie zelinko National grounds forever liquid tells me how many percentage of the farms in America are actually doing tissue samples. I 12:10 would guess less than five percent less than five percent. He's Chad Anderson one of the original fires of extreme Ag and he is perspective on 12:17 tissue sampling is going to probably make you kind of a little bit amused and also inform. So anyway, let's talk about it your perspective 12:23 about teaching sampling. One of the things you said is there's too many variables go so tissue sampling is good 12:29 for there you go. That's what it's good. So this is what is good for no joke. I mean, we're you fix spots in the field you fix things. Obviously if you pull a tissue 12:41 sample, and it's already something wrong there just start next year try to figure out what's going on. But all it is is a key to fix next year. 12:47 You're not gonna fix anything in the plant yall just chime in if I'm wrong, but you know, that's not the case. You're going 12:53 You're Not Gonna fix anything to a high yield potential. If you're already got a problem and then you call 12:59 Stephanie to come look at your problem. Then we pull a tissue sample that day then we get it back four days later. Then we gonna apply 13:05 it five days later. Also, we're three weeks away from here. We lost two weeks from the prop. The thing is it's a lot of variables and tissue sampling is good. It is good. It helps you 13:14 get a baseline for most of my Farms already have that Baseline. We already know what we're going on. Now, we get a new Farm we're gonna do soil and tissue sampling together. We're gonna 13:23 look at them at the same spot and same time through the year to get a faster grip on that new Farm. I was 13:29 holding Molly back. She was she was I had told her to breathe a couple times. What's your thoughts tissue sampling? He's wrong. So okay from a farmer 13:38 standpoint I get to convenience. No, you don't want to be out here all the time and all the variables and things but in today's 13:44 market you have seed that's through the roof fertilizers through the roof nutrient application everything, right? So we're 13:50 spending a hundred dollars to put in the crop. Of course if you're standard of seeing how Up is doing is Visual and you see that you 13:59 have a deficiency at that point. You are way too far behind so every input that you put at the beginning now, you're 14:05 backtracking. So me personally, I like to be a proactive farmer instead of a reactive farmer because if I 14:11 spend all that money up front and I have to wait until I see it. Correct a problem. It's too late. 14:17 What tissue sampling doing for me? Is it got me to where I had a program that I knew was failsafe until I find that deficient spot. We was just talking about. 14:26 I have a problem with magnesium. We're trying to fix through that I'm pulling tissue samples on two Farms that are 14:32 five different spots in the field because it's different soul Taps. It's five different spots and it's random teeth you 14:38 samplings in the same field and we're pulling them every 10 days like you're talking about but 21 is ideal. That's right 14:44 FY that's just say you're standing in the middle of these two people that are clearly and by the way, the customers always right is what they try and tell you he's the customer 14:53 and she says wrong. So anyway help your Stephanie well, Attend a lean a little closer to Chad then Molly for this topic, but I like to testing kind 15:02 of for two main things one Diagnostics. So if you have a problem spot in that field in a good spot sample both that helps answer that question. Can you fix it 15:11 for this year? Probably not to get top yield. But you may be can make some corrections but it's gonna help you next year 15:17 celebrating yield or helping you for next year. So you next year fixing next year number. The other one is if you want to track over 15:26 time, but you have to it's really hard because you can do that but you have to be consistent with time of day temperature cloud cover and do 15:35 tons and tons of samples and then look for those outliers before you can get a good trend line on what that is. And that's 15:41 really only high yield guys that do that and it's a hit or miss inconsistent. So what the best thing I've seen if you're going to do tissue sampling you're 15:50 saying I'm going to teach you something I'm gonna teach you sample one field or two pills. Don't try to do your whole Farm because it'll wear your butt. Yeah pick you. 15:56 Pick you a farm like you're like she's talking about that's a problem farm and a high-yield farm and compare the two and make the one drag up. 16:02 They're 100% correct. But this is what I've done for two years in a row and I learned more than I learned on any of the tissue samples every time I pulled tissue sample. I jotted down the 16:11 weather just just notes of the weather. I jotted down when the rainfall come and try to tile that together when you get to the end of the year take your five or six or eight or twenty five that Molly's 16:20 gonna pull tissue samples and put them in and graph them down make you a standard bar graph. Everybody else do it on computer, but I 16:26 got the graph sheet and I'm feeling all the numbers in and you do that and you'll see the check marks and every time you made 16:32 application whether it was a phobia pass herbicide where there was a wide drop whether it was rain event, you start 16:38 tying those things together with a rain events and watching the plant move up and down and you'll learn a lot, you 16:44 know, Stephanie like you understand if it ain't rained in 10 days, you're not going to pull a tissue simple Nothing's Gonna Change and so just kind of keep that in the back of your mind. And another thing 16:53 it is a snapshot it is only a snapshot he's It is a snapshot because things could change. He's right. He might be right. He might be right also in 17:02 that it's better to wait. It's predictive meaning we're seeing this deficiency of this problem we can get ahead of it. But even as he pointed out by the time I get you to 17:11 come out because you're three days away and then by the time we get the lab result back, that's another five days and by time he has a freed 17:17 up hand to get out here and do this. We've already lost seven to ten days. So it's predictive versus seeing the problem. But he's 17:23 got a point there. We still missed it by two weeks in terms of the practical application. So you have to figure out what's right for your farm. So 17:29 if you're gonna go, you know try to correct every portion of the field. They have a place again. It's gonna be helping for future 17:35 more so than in season that current crap year. You need tissue sampling. If you have not tissue sampling you need tissue sampling. I'm not gonna 17:44 say you don't but you need to teach you something to get your Baseline to make you a smarter farmer about what's going on on your 17:50 farm instead of listening to the people to Coffee Shop saying, I think I have a sulfur problem. I think I have a magnesium problem. 17:56 LCM problem you need to do the on-farm tissue sample to get your Baseline. Once you get your Baseline, then you can address your problem to us. A lot of the problems you fix in a 18:05 tissue sampling is in the fall with a fertility plan that you got in place. Alright, so the question was to to know because 18:12 you sampler not the tissue sample. It sounds like it. Yes sort of fish and all the time. it 18:57 if I was little I always went with Dad to the farm. It wasn't really a half to go. I just didn't really want to stay home. So I went with him and it 19:23 kind of turned into the older. I got the more I just kept picking up. I would walk the fields with him riding the truck and it got to the 19:32 point. I didn't want to sit in the truck. So I would start walking through the field through the corn through the soybeans and over time. 19:38 I was able to work with different agronomists that would come to the field and they would teach me different diseases different things to look for. So now it's become more 19:47 what I love doing. We're back Danielle. We're about 400 Growing Degree units from black layer, which is full maturity on this corn and she 19:56 keep up with that on the app on your phone, but need to make sure this flag leaf, all these leaves above the plants are real healthy. 20:05 We've got some gray leaf spot coming and we've done sprayed this with Fungicide and it's it's done. That's it's not moving. You can see how it 20:14 stayed there. Just kind of dead in that track. It's not cross the veins yet. So we know it's not Southern Yeah, this is more of a southern because see how 20:24 it's more of a getting more of a cigar type shape. Or Northern excuse me more of a cigar type shape to it. But it's we killed it real early gray leaf spot 20:34 is a leaf tissue disease that gets on the corns plants in our area. It was all over but it's pretty dominant in this area just because 20:43 we have so much moisture in the air. We're on the river right now. So it's gonna be a lot of foggy mornings. 20:49 Usually it's about 11 12 o'clock before you can walk in a cornfield without getting soaked. But the biggest thing is we stopped it and it 20:58 stay in below the ear Shank. And the ear Leaf so this leaves good. This is actually your Leaf itself. It's very healthy. 21:07 So we got this corn sprayed on time. It's not uncommon to for a few if it's left untreated and it's really aggressive. It'll just turn 21:17 this whole entire leaf brown. So so once this Leaf turns brown and there's no photosynthesis. So I just told you earlier, you know, we're talking about if we lose 21:26 that ear Leaf. We're going to lose 20% over you potential yield. And so we got to protect this because this is 21:33 the sunlight comes into all these leaves. So when we see Northern Leaf lights Southern Leaf light and gray leaf spot which are our primary diseases. That's that's 21:42 why we're out here scouting these fields and and that's why I told you we needed to get on that and then the river bottom is in yesterday and be getting it sprayed, you 21:51 know quickly right now. Our plan is to scout every Monday and Tuesday pull tissue sample swing get them back by Friday, but that's 22:00 just irrigated ground. Yeah, you're in the, you know can't song the dry land fields ever every week. He's in 22:06 a different field. So there's two you guys are yeah out in the fields to get different looks on things soybeans in the corner. It'll change within just a 22:15 few days. So we're having to catch it. Quickly to get the sprayers there on time. 22:21 Right now it's starting to rain. So I'm hoping we can cut the irrigation off. All the irrigation drowning right now. We start 22:28 in the morning early get fuel in the pumps. We're hoping all this week. I'm out there cutting on every day, 22:37 too. There's way it takes somebody has to put fuel in the generator for you to run it. Yeah, but if you just go ahead and do all the 22:45 computer programs, I did not stay at the house. Yes, that's for you. You know, you're the Young Guns Next Generation. 22:52 You're supposed to be able to do this. Well, you can program it now run it I mean Matt and Kelly and I we need to go so you and Vernon and Lane. Can 23:01 you please us to take care of it a lot. So I mean wait it's going dead. You should be honored to have that compliment. Like I mean the corn is 23:10 not dead. We did not kill the crop while I've been gone the summer wouldn't describe myself as tough, but I'm not soft either. 23:17 I don't know. I'm very straightforward though. If I want something it was starting to get a shower range. Let's get out here. So we let every drop it the 23:26 ground and this coin can take it up. So we're getting loaded up for the beans on beans trial putting out a little fungicide insecticide pgr's 23:59 out. And so this is our tender trailer when the sprayers are out in the field. We got to be able to get the water and the product out to them to run over the field start with 24:08 these two big tanks of water. They're 3,200 gallon of water in there and the water just to delivery mechanism to get into the plant. 24:16 So then we have these two chemical inductors here and all across the trailer will have chemicals. There's a bulk tote there and 24:25 then these jugs and different things will hold Insecticide Fungicide herbicide, whatever we need and I'll mix 24:31 up those chemicals into the inductors and then as we're pushing the water into the sprayer, we'll switch the valves and it'll suck the chemical in and 24:40 it'll mix as it's loading the sprayer get everything mixed up good time is money. We're trying to cover acres here. They're out 24:46 running and I'll get everything loaded up. They'll come back in. I'll hook them up load them on quick and they'll keep moving and 24:52 we'll get this on as fast as an efficiently as possible. So the sprayer is gonna pull up and I'm gonna drop this front valve. 24:58 Then I'm gonna hook our hose up and we're gonna start water running as soon as we get a little water in there then I'm gonna 25:05 Switch the valves over to suck the chemical on it'll mix with the water as it's going and we'll fill them with full with 1200 gallon 25:11 of water for Fungicide and insecticide. We're just running a 10 gallon per acre rate. So he'll be able to go out and do 120 Acres office. 25:19 He gets out to help me first day. All right, guys, we got tips from a tool bag here. I'm getting ready to start making some trips across the field. 25:43 Everybody is always telling me that they don't get enough response out of some foliar treatments or do you know what foliers you 25:52 really need? There's a lot of them out there. Here's the easiest way. I'm gonna take it all the way back to tissue samples and 25:58 me and Chad Henderson can sit here and argue about tissue samples all we want guys go back go back 26:04 and let's talk about your tissue samples that you took last year. The very first ones get them out. There were something because you've always chased this 26:13 ghost on this tissue Sample When you take a tissue sample and you go out and play apply a fool your treatment you're chasing that tail of 26:22 that ghost and it's never gonna work out for you. I've done it for 15 years and it's never worked out for me grab your 26:28 tissue samples from last year. Go back to them. Don't ever throw your your tissue samples away. I get so made sometimes crumble them up in a trash. 26:37 And burn them but they're that's how we utilize them utilize them as a Data Bank. Take them and fine-tune your foliar 26:45 treatment. And I promise you guys you will get a return on that investment. It's all about learning that stage in that crop what it 26:54 is lacking in on your soil. That's how to get to foliar treatments to really work. Well, it's not about a guy coming out there and selling you that product. You 27:03 know, how many times like this is a great treatment. It works for everybody. Let's try it and you use it on your 27:09 farm and you get zero results. We can make them results turn into a very different thing for you all by using that 27:15 data Bank of what you did in years previous when you use them you can find out those stages in those key trigger points utilize the data 27:24 that is there. There is money hidden in the data. You just got to find it. See y'all. 27:32 Matt as you're agronomist, we got to talk about something. This Garden. There's a 19th amount of personal Lane. 27:46 There's some crabgrass I see nut grass. I see Virginia button week encroaching. This is a test plot. This is see how many different species we 27:56 can get at one time on a certain spot this extremely successful. Are we checking the water tolerance for the tomatoes? Yes. 28:03 He does a pretty crappy job on the gardens. He's not a really good Garden agronomist. If you're gonna hire Rob don't hide no sir, but but it's not just Consulting here Matt. There's there's 28:12 land prep. There's irrigation. I can't irrigate it for you. I can't level the ground for you. The bigger problem here is possibly the the 28:21 potholes the lack of the lack of It you got to have time to come out here and mess with the garden, you know during the time the garden needs to be grown. We're 28:31 trying to mess with a hundred thousand plants of soybeans for acre and 41,000 plants of time for acre 35,000 plants of corn 28:40 per acre. It. Don't play second. Philly probably plays 352nd fiddle and 28:46 it's a mask guys. It's just a mess and Rob is absolutely no help. 28:50 On the garden whatsoever. He don't all he does is eat what few vegetables we get out of it? Well, I won't create I'm 28:56 you coming vegetables out of it, but he never has any input on but mad I got correct you on one thing 29:02 there. I actually despised tomatoes and I showed don't like Peppers. Yeah. I want to stand around here and look at this. Crappy Garden. 29:09 Be my guess. We're gonna go look at some good corn and some other good crops. Let's get out of here. peace out Garden 29:17 See you next time. Yeah. Sydney don't forget to water the garden. Watch out, right?