Rescuing A Crop
8 Oct 2311 min 24 sec

We are talking about rescuing a crop from chemical damage. Temple Rhodes talks about the confluence of factors that stunted his early corn crop and most importantly, how he nursed it back to almost full recovery.

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00:00 Hey, we're talking about rescuing a crop from chemical damage. It's probably less of a problem now than maybe it was in the old days with 00:06 lesser chemistry, or maybe longer, uh, shall we say residuals, but it's still an issue. 00:11 Temple Roads had this experience here in Maryland where Jason Worley from Nature's behind us, is a crop that he had to rescue. What happened? 00:20 So it was, uh, it was kind of a combination of everything. It really wasn't any one thing. 00:25 It was a multitude of different problems all happening at the wrong time. So we, we put up, we put our chemistry on, our post application on, 00:34 and the corn was probably V four, V five ish. Um, and when we applied it, the very next day, or actually the continuing five to seven days is when the Canada smoke happened 00:48 and it got cool. It was already dry, and it was already cool. So the crap was already kind of stressed at that point. 00:53 There wasn't a lot of sunlight. Well, when that smoke came in and it kind of covered us up for like five days, our problem was, is we had no sunlight. And we a, 01:02 we were basically asking that plant to, Hey, look, I need you to metabolize all of this right now with no sunlight, no furnaces, no nothing. And we didn't have any rings. 01:13 So all of it happened at one time with cool temperatures. And man, you won't talk about a funky looking crowd. I mean, 01:20 this is where all of our trials is for all of our, our partners and labs. And it just went backwards, terribles. Okay? When we think about 01:29 Rescuing from chemical damage, the old way of thinking was, it was residual. The stuff from the prior year that wouldn't leave, 01:35 the soil hadn't broken down and it just stays in there. You know, it used to be a, like I said, in the eighties, 01:40 it seems like nineties was a bigger issue. The stuff I used on last year's cord has invested stunting my soybeans this year. That's not 01:46 What happened. No. So nowadays, you know, we're, as these plants, you know, they, they're able to, to metabolize all these different chemistries. 01:53 So this was just a chemistry that was put on and it, it, I've used it for five or six years. I've never had any issue. 02:00 It was just wrong time, wrong place, wrong environment. And I, I didn't know that it was coming. Like we, how are you gonna look at the, at, 02:07 at a map or a, you know, or a forecast and say, Hey, the next five to seven days, yeah, we're gonna get smoke from Canada. Like, eh, you know what I mean? Like Right. It doesn't happen. 02:16 There was nothing that I could look at and I couldn't, I couldn't make that call. So, Mr. Worley normally on labels, it doesn't say, uh, 02:23 don't apply if half of Quebec is burning and you're gonna be getting smoke coming down there. That's not something that's on a label anyway. The point is, 02:31 conditions are the problem, but I don't know that we see that as much as the old days of chemical residue. But you, you see a lot more in the country than I do. Am I wrong? 02:41 Is this more of a problem than it, than I realized now, believe it or Not, it is because there's, we differ chemistries, 02:46 genetics and things that are out in the marketplace. You know, cleaning sprayers out and various things like that. I mean, 02:51 you're getting some residues, so you're gonna have some crop injury. So, you know, we try to tell everybody, if you, you know, 02:56 if you have that act immediately, start doing some foliar applications on this crop. Try to get it to recover. Phosphorus being one thing, potassium being another piece of the puzzle ate. 03:06 Yeah. So that's the thing. So you're, you're looking at here, when did you know it was a problem? Day three, day four. 03:11 After application of what oversight I sprayed on a Friday. I went and seen, uh, Kelly. We went, um, out in Iowa and I was there for four or five days and I got home and I was like, 03:21 holy crap, my whole crop ruined. So immediately I reached out to the guys in Natures and I was like, alright, here's the problem. This is what we got. They told me what to do. 03:31 We came out here, we did some root digs, and we realized that the bottom of the crown of these plants, it was dying off. So the answer was, 03:39 is until you establish brace roots and it makes it, it's gonna make the plant go get brace roots, because those are dying off. You need to feed it from the top. So that's what we did. It was a, 03:50 it was a heavy load of foliar nutrition to, to get that plant out of its funk, make it shoot more brace roots and make it go down and get the fertility that 03:59 was there. There was fertility there, it just wasn't be gonna be able to capture. So The herbicide problem was obviously conditions made. Is that herbicide? 04:07 It didn't, it, it just didn't get broken down, but then instead it started damaging the plant. Would he have been, would this be, would this be done or would it just be really stunted? 04:18 I don't think if you, if you had to reacted as quick as you had, yeah, we wouldn't have had a crop. Okay. We would've had a, well, 04:23 I would say been a yield, a big yield reduction, like half It would've been a huge yield reduction. I don't know what, 04:29 I don't know what crop we got out here, but right now I'm thrilled with the way that it looks versus the way that it, it started out. Right Now, there's one thing that we can't make up. 04:38 What happens between V three and V six, it's determining the rows around. Well, if it's determining the rows around, that happened at the exact same time. 04:47 So if that happened, like that's something I'm not gonna make up. So did it reduce my yield? Absolutely. A hundred percent. It reduced my yield. 04:55 I'm never gonna see that benefit. Right. So we went through a two week window of bringing it out of it and then getting it back into a agreement. Okay, 05:02 So you're not, you're not a lo it's not a loser. It's also not gonna be record set. Maybe a 10% lead done. Let me looking at it, I, I'd say minimum of 10%, 10 to 20%. It's, it was a, 05:14 it's still, it's not what I want. Well, it's a lot better than I thought. Okay. Let's talk about the prescriptive, 05:19 The prescriptive rescue. What'd you tell 'em to do? So we got green flag out there. Green flag is one of our 90 10 based products is solved. It's 90% ortho, 05:27 10% poly. We use a lot of that product. And so getting the phosphorous side that we talked about, and it also has TA acetate in or our bio K. And then we come in there with some, 05:35 uh, finish line. Yep. And we have some phobic acid in there with some micronutrients. And on that side also, finish line containing bio K. Okay. On that side. 05:44 So as a whole, we're talking this potassium in phospho side, so we're actually waking it plant up. Like we're, well 05:49 We had, we had one of your big, um, micro packs in that as well. Oh Yeah. Was it 05:54 It Was, no, it was, uh, sideway sides swat. So we went in there with maybe a, a one, like a 1.5 x-ray. So we kind 06:02 Of jumped all that Up too as well. How did you Buy all this? The top and there was nothing else. 'cause obviously that, that that cord had been damaged enough. All it was was just what you said. 06:12 You didn't, there's no fungicide in there and there was no other herbicide on No, I was, I was just trying to rescue my brain. 06:19 Okay. Foer over the top. And that was roughly the, from time of herbicide application till the day you went and did the rescue was I was within 70. Okay. 06:26 And We made it happen. It's the old thing, you know, it's a good thing you brought me this patient, otherwise it could have been, yeah. 06:32 I mean it's a good thing that I had the, the foliar nutrition in my chemical warehouse Yeah. That I needed. I mean, yeah. And we try to keep things on hand all the time. 06:42 Not necessarily because I'm thinking about a rescue treatment. Yeah. It's, it's because I was planning the year out, 06:47 so they had shipped me a bunch of stuff and it was in storage. I just happened to use it where I probably wasn't 06:53 Gonna use it. It'd be better if you didn't have to do rescue. And here's the thing, would you have used some of these products? 06:58 Oh yeah. I was gonna use 'em anyway, but it Was gonna be, It was going to be late two weeks later. Yeah. I was gonna use it anyway, 07:04 but just maybe not, maybe I didn't use quite as much, you know, if I didn't have that problem. But I was a hundred percent gonna use it. 07:11 'cause that's where, that's what I bought it. Do you think most people would look at it and say, you know what, this is gone or something went haywire or, you know, you would just poop, 07:18 Here's, here's what, what, what normally would happen? And I'm not saying that this is everybody, but, but generally if a farmer runs to a problem like that, um, 07:27 first thing they're gonna do is they're gonna blame the chemical and they're gonna yell, scream, and holler, 07:31 and then they're gonna want something back outta the chem cafe. And I got news for you. At the end of the day, if it's environmental, 07:36 the chem chem company didn't pay 'em anything. Yeah. Because if you look in the fine print, if it's environmental, there's nothing that they can do. And it's not their fault. Yeah. 07:44 It's just is It's just a serious, so you Be, yeah. You want, if instead of going and fighting with the chemical company, you decided let's go ahead and salvage this thing. 07:51 So you're happy about the results. Uh, the tough part is do you think you missed it? In other words, if you'd have caught it three days instead seven days in, 07:58 do you think you would've made a difference or do you think it was, didn't there? We'll 08:01 Blame that on Kelly. 'cause I was at this house. Yeah. Okay. Alright. Get me outta here Jason. So, uh, a bunch of, a bunch of nutrition over the top foliar was gonna probably be applied later on 08:11 anyhow. So all he really did was bump it off and it, and it dragged it outta there. Is there anything that needed to happen even after that, 08:18 or pretty much was that enough to get it through? I think as a whole, you know, he, he really salvaged and brought it back quick. Yeah. And that seven day window, which was a critical time on that plant, 08:28 like you said, rose being set round, everything. So with that, the only thing we're looking at now is some late season applications. 08:34 We always say on a corn plant with front load, with nutrients on the soybean, we backlog. 08:38 I think now we're seeing times in this marketplace where we're actually being able some more phosphorous for suing Yeah. On this plant, 08:46 get some 10 weight on this Crop. So there might be another application to kind of really help her along. Would that have mattered whether it was damaged or not? 08:53 I still think at the end of the day, damage is where you should have been focused and more at. Okay. Because, you know, you've already lost yield if it's a 10% yield. Yeah. So 09:02 I'm, I'm trying to make it up and wait now. Yeah. So you know what we damaged early on, it might have instead of being 18 euros around. Yeah. You know, I mean, 09:10 everything out here is 16 euros around now it's at 39,500. So I'm still good. So the only thing that I can do, since I, 09:17 I've already gotten that taken away from me, only thing I can do is make up weight. So there was a late season application done that was about a week ago that was 09:25 pretty heavy on 'em from An economic standpoint, for either of you that wants to address this, there's gonna be the idea like, well, 09:30 that that crop is torn up and it's because of the smokes and whatever, you know, blame the environment, blame the chemical companies. I'm done fooling with it. 09:37 You weren't in it for that much. You're, I mean, in other words, your rescue plan was some work and 30 bucks an acre, 25 09:44 Bucks, 40 bucks. I had to say that I probably spent the extra of about 30, maybe 32 max extra that I wouldn't have done. Yeah. 09:53 To get it out of its funk. So if, if I did that mean, and I saved, you know, 10% of my y month of my yield, that that's a big number. Well, that's before 10:02 What I was gonna make is that, you know, you're not supposed to go based on some cost, but to put this acre in behind me was already 700 and something dollars. Yeah. 10:09 So, I mean, a lot of people say, Hey, never don't, don't go out there and throw good money. But this wasn't a situation. Right. Like I'm, I'm, I'm gonna get it out of this and go 10:18 Out this. You've already got the money invested. Yeah. Don't store up away From it. Yeah. I mean, you know, a lot of owners 10:23 Will do that. They'll say, yeah, it's, it's, it's beyond salvaging, you know, go away. But you come in, let's say, hey, we're seven days, you know, 10:30 let's hit this thing hard. And I think as a whole you gonna be satisfied. Oh Yeah. 10:34 Well, again, and you can understand saying don't throw another $500 at it, but you're talking 30 bucks. Yes. Somebody return on 10:39 Return, 700 old was already seven or so. Yeah. It was already 700. So I mean, at that point I'm like, got risk of probity 10:46 And Do it zappo because, you know, BA acres an acre Risk for the biscuit. His name's Temple Rose talking about rescuing a crop after some herbicide damage 10:56 due to environmental conditions. You know what, we might see more and more of this and maybe you're seeing it on your farm. So that's why we're here is to help you pull your crops out of, uh, 11:05 of a funk and rescue. And his name is Jason War Natures. My name is Damian Mason. Share this with somebody that can benefit from it. 11:11 So many videos, hundreds and hundreds of podcasts and videos, extreme Ag Do Farm to help you improve your farming game.

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