00:00 One field, two practices. We're talking about two fairly radical approaches to fertility in your field and what the results will be. 00:07 Tommy Roach, nature's Kelly Garrett, we're staying in this field. One of the cool things you're gonna do on a trial is show 00:13 us, hey, this is what most everybody would do in Iowa in terms of fertility practices. Here's a way to do it differently 00:19 and we think we're gonna get some pretty big results. Talk to me. So back when I started with Kelly five years ago now I, 00:26 we kind of kidded that Iowa and Illinois were kind of the, the last great frontiers. I was kind of progressed while Illinois, still, 00:35 while frontier, they really don't know how to grow corn. I'm sure the Illinois, I'm sure the Illinois 00:42 corn growers appreciate that. So what what the theory is here is we took the local standard, 00:49 which is pretty much nitrogen. Nitrogen, more nitrogen, yeah. On the planter and in season. 00:57 But that's not all there is to growing a corn plant. Got it. You have microbes, you have phosphorus, you have potassium, 01:05 you have all these different things that help to make that nitrogen more efficient. Uhhuh. And we're not talking about adding different trips 01:13 across the field. This is about taking advantage of something you're already doing, spraying herbicide, spraying fungicide, putting out your in season nitrogen, 01:23 And each time, each pass you're doing a new fertility practice. And that's your point is you're not adding any trips. 01:30 You're not even probably adding money, you're just reapportioning it. Which we talk a lot about with nature's Kelly. 01:35 Tommy started speaking your language when he said, okay, you know, what do you always, you said, 01:38 I think the first month I met you, the holy grail of American agriculture has produced more corn to do that. You got more nitrogen, more nitrogen, more nitrogen. 01:45 We know that's not really the case. You've got some really good experimentations going on, on cutting nitrogen usage. 01:50 This is right up in your, this is in your wheelhouse. Absolutely. And the reallocation term is exactly what we try to do. 01:57 Evans Wind Grove and I, we try to reallocate that budget to bring the crop into nutritional balance 02:03 to become more efficient. But we wanna maintain the logistical efficiency that we already have, taking advantage of the tank space. 02:10 We don't want to add more trips. Now if, if adding another trip produces an ROI, we're not afraid to do that. 02:16 Right? But to get started, let's maintain the same number of trips. But let's see if we can add an ROI, 02:22 let's see if we can reallocate the budget. You know, there, there's a huge term now in American agriculture, really just our American culture over 02:28 application of nitrogen. While that is true, I feel, I feel it's an incomplete statement, right? Over application of nitrogen relative 02:36 to the micronutrients, right? Over application of nitrogen relative to the phosphorous of potassium. 02:40 So we have validated the organic nitrogen being mineralized by this soil. We now turn down the synthetic 02:46 because we know we don't need it. And we reallocate that budget into products that Tommy has. I see Micros, P and K. 02:53 Alright, so you talked about the, the standard and you, you were being facetious and joking about the Illinois corn growers, et cetera, 02:59 but it got real comfortable to keep doing things the same way. And you said, Hey, I'm not making it uncomfortable. 03:04 I'm not telling you to go out and, you know, work a hundred more hours a a month. You're saying let's just change our thinking 03:11 and you're already gonna cross that field anyhow. Now let's add this. So let's talk about what you added each time we 03:15 Know the periods of influence on a corn plant, on a soybean plant, and we know the nutrient demand during those times. 03:24 So like the stage of corn that we're here right now, it's fixing and get a post pass, post herbicide pass. Why not take advantage of that trip and add in micros? 03:34 Because micros trigger different physiological processes in the plant. That guess what? Influence yield. 03:43 And you're fixing to go into a stage where you're gonna determine how many rows you're at. And then later in that B 10, B12 period, 03:52 you're gonna start determining how long that deer's gonna be. And we know exactly how much 03:58 NPK secondaries micros are needed during those times. You talk about, uh, in one of our podcasts, there's the macros. 04:07 And you even said, I don't think it's just macro and micro. I think it's in nitrogen, has its own macro, then it's p 04:12 and k and that's the secondary, secondary, uh, macros. Then there's micros, then there's many micros. He thinks there's four different levels. 04:20 Your approach, are we attacking all of that with each pass? No. Is there still, what are we putting in? 04:26 Uh, of course, if you think so early, early in the season, like right here, this corn plant has already taken up 04:34 roughly 30% of its iron needs. Okay? And that's kind of unusual. 'cause if you look at the other micronutrients, they're, 04:42 they're, they really don't start their uptake until the five onward up until later. 04:49 Like V or R, two or three. And that's something that through different experimentation that extreme ags been doing for the last five years, 04:59 all these guys have reallocated some nutrient that nutrition that they were doing upfront and doing it through the sea and moved it 05:08 toward the tail end. Because that's where you get grain Weight based on the last several years of you doing this, you're obviously seeing a return on investment. 05:15 You're not spending any more money on the fertility, you're just changing it through the season. What's it look like money 05:20 Wise? We spent $7 in potassium acetate at R five, for example, and we returned 14 bushel 05:26 and it was $7 of potassium acetate on 14 bushel. $7 got your 14 one gallon, one gallon of potassium acetate got us 14 bushel. 05:33 That's an example of what we can do. And that's at R five. That's incredibly late, right? 05:39 Relative to when most growers think they should fertilize. We used to have a lot of potassium acetate on the planter. 05:44 Now we've taken it off, reallocated it towards then and look at the bushels We've got. Okay, so we're gonna 05:49 wrap things up here. The one field, two different practices. You're saying you're pretty well 05:53 convinced based on what he just said. We're gonna make money on it. On uh, the last pass, which you've got a great chart in your pamphlet over 05:59 here about when that happens. Periods of influence. What's the last pass you're gonna make? The last pass. If you think about potassium, 06:06 it moves all the nutrition around in the plant, which is why he puts it late in addition to a heavy micro load at that R two to R four stage. 06:15 Okay? In this field that we're standing in right here, Kelly, it gets hit three more times with fertility. Yep. Three more times with fertility. 06:21 Alright, Tommy, wrapping things up here. What's your expectation for this? Uh, we're spending the same amount of money. 06:26 We're just changing it. When it goes out there, we're gonna make money on doing so. Absolutely. Because this is not a, if you want 06:33 to call it A-N-C-G-A field where we're just gonna throw dumb pounds and pounds of nutrition to it, right? 06:38 This is a ROI field. We're taking advantage of what the grower normally does and we're just making it better. 06:45 Got it. ROI works smarter, not harder. That's, I think words that he, uh, has, uh, lives by Kelly Garrett here talking about one field, two practices 06:54 to help you get more return on your fertility investment by spacing out the applications. 06:59 We'll keep you posted on the results. Damien Mason with XT Extreme Ag. Thanks for being here.