00:00 If you keep up with what we do here at Extreme Ag, we talk a lot about rounding the bases, you know, finishing the game. Then you gotta ask the question, when is too late? Uh, 00:08 we're gonna address that when we're talking about late season application of fertility products on corn. Kevin Matthews, 00:14 one of the founding files for Extreme Ag. Jason, we with Nature's, uh, you've changed some things, which I think is really cool. 00:19 It is always fun for me to see what the extreme ag guys are doing. Changed it, changed it, changed it, tweaking it, trying new things in the old days, 00:26 you know, Matt Miles and I talk a lot about this, go out there and blast out all kinds of dry fertilizer. Well, that didn't really stick around. We know that that was the mistakes of our, 00:34 of our youth. Now you're going out there pretty late in the game and putting on a fertility treatment like at R four or something like this. You know, 00:42 you're pretty late in the game. So talk to us about what you're doing late season fertility corn, and how late is too late. 00:49 Well, you know, we, it's kinda like a relay effect. We st we start out with the planters and, you know, we run, uh, certain products in the planters and sometimes it's nature, 00:57 sometimes it's something else, you know. But, uh, I wouldn't just tell you that part. Yeah, it happens. It happens. Yeah. But then, um, we, we really, we wanna make sure the plant never runs out. 01:09 We want to, we want to get to that finish line as hard as we can. And so what we're after, you know, we're really wanting, 01:16 we got this corn here is dented pretty good. And, and that's something we'd rather not, and we're, we would rather have those kernels big and round on the caps there. 01:25 And you're talking About when you do your last treatment. Yeah. I, the, we, when it, when this thing goes into black layer, 01:30 we walk that kernel round and fat, you know, we want those big aker as we'd possibly get, kinda like these right in here. But that's not easy to do. And so we played with time and traditionally what? 01:41 R R three? R one, you know, R two, it was, we kind of felt like it was the sweet spot and now man, we're going on later. Well then, then, uh, and even later in something. Yeah. Yeah. I mean we're, 01:53 we're just right, you know, a week, two weeks before black player, you know, we'll be within 200 growing green units of black player and we're still putting 01:59 out stuff and uh, but then you wonder, you know, the question that you had for me was, when's too late? Where's to It? Yeah. Well, we, 02:09 I wanna get Jason real quickly 'cause I want you to address Wiz too late. Not everybody does this still. I mean, 02:15 these guys are pushing the envelope a little bit, trying new things. It's not that long ago that you thought, 02:20 there's a certain point probably like after July, that you don't go out there and put fertility out. I mean, it, we've, we've gotten to where we're doing stuff now that just a few years ago seemed 02:31 crazy. And that's correct because you sit back and think about, most farmers don't have the application or equipment to go at these later 02:37 treatments. But we have to start thinking ahead again because, because now you start looking at the plant and everything, 02:43 like you were talking about, we're getting later and later in season application, the ding, we're trying to fill up that ear. We're test weight on that, on that carnel, 02:50 on that cob and everything. So when we look at the late season applications, it should start becoming a common practice for the input cost with the yields. 02:59 Yeah. Yeah. So we're seeing now, like at Brown Seal Yep. On that side. Phosphorus. Yep. Phosphorus is a big thing. I think you, 03:07 if you look at some of the demand curves, we still need 40% more phosphorus on that plant. And you're talking about it's very, very late. Very late. You need, 03:14 Traditionally, you're already at Dakota, you Need almost almost half of what your phosphorus load is when we used to think it was done. 03:21 Yeah. Yep. And so now we're coming back. Now we're seeing, hey, we should be getting that other application. It's not a high rate. I mean, 03:27 you know, we got our products that we can look at with our first noun and various things like that. Our triple option. 03:32 We could go through there with the first down being the product of choice that we like just because of the phospho load and the potassium side. But yeah, 03:39 most farmers are not equipped to do this, but they need to start looking Anchor wise, the technology. Now we got ground rigs that can get over the corn. 03:47 Yeah. Drones. We got aerial aircraft, we got options we never add, right? Yeah. Right. So how late Now to go back to the question. Yeah. 03:53 You're doing stuff at R four, R five. R Five, okay. Yeah. And the neighbor stink. Boy, this guy crazy. He's going out there and put, 04:01 he's putting fertilizer out there when that crop's already made. He's just waste his money. You say. 04:05 Well, so far the research is showing it. Hey, the trouble is getting enough time to get it all, you know, and, and that's the critical part. But we're, 04:13 we're still pushing envelope and we need that late season fungicide application. So we're getting two birds with one stall. But you know, 04:20 you look at these shucks, then we're not shucks still green. Uh, you're you're still playing ball. Yeah. 04:27 I mean the game is old and so Yeah. So the point is, this is clearly not dead and dry. I mean this, this doesn't look like the, the court shows you, oh, you're 04:36 On, you're in the final stages of the ball Game. Okay. So when you're going out R five, what are you putting On? So what I'll do, I'll run a heavier load of potassium. 04:46 When I say heavy load gallon two gallon, you know, that's some very heavy load. It is two gallon for normal. But, uh, then I'll run, you know, 04:54 put some nitrogen in there as well and some micronutrients just try to, any little thing that's left, I want to get in there. 05:01 But the key is when you look at this shuck and don't get caught up on that one little brown tip right there. Okay. That's 05:08 Not that. Because the average person might say, hell, that corn's already done. Look, it's do, it's draining down. Yeah. And you'd say, 05:14 Well you pull up your growing grid units, we got smartphones with that sold. You can put any plant date, your variety and, and you, you look at everything, 05:22 you don't even have to have the variety in there, but you look and you say, okay, you, well, 05:26 well you've go find out what your black layer number is and well, hey, I like, I like 400 units getting a black layer. 05:34 It takes a long time from this point to black layer. Okay. So There, unless it's weather impacted, 05:40 If we get a hard frost and it starts, well that Or more so I'm thinking from where we are is, uh, uh, it turns dry and hot. Okay. And it cooks the corn. Yeah. You know, 05:50 there it just cooks. Usually We are, Yeah, We are basically, it, it, it, it, it says you're done and yeah. And you, you just temperature kill it. Had question, uh, Jason, 05:59 this ear corner in here that Kevin was talking about, going out and putting fertility on, it ain't gonna get any bigger. You're not gonna any more rounds. That last bit of fertility. What am I getting? 06:09 Just wait. I think the thing Kevin hit on earlier, the dentin side of it, we were just at p t i last week at, uh, precision Planting Field day. 06:17 And the one thing on Jason Wester come up to one or to Tommy and said, Hey listen, my corn's starting dent, 06:22 I gotta stop it because that's where we're going to take and that's where we're coming back now and going thing we want, we want test weight. Yeah. 62 plus who 06:30 By and Now you know this shuck right here, we just shuck this ear. Yeah. Uh, so we're not going to keep, we're not going to help this, this is done. Yeah. 06:39 Right. We has That, but what we can do is still build the weight in that kernel. Yeah. And so we wanna finish strong Okay. Is what we want do. 06:48 Now if you go to the field, your plants are all green and you got brown shucks done Because the plant, the plant looks like it's still working. But this is done. 06:57 But You've actually won the battle because the corn plant matured properly. Okay. Because you want your shucks to dry before your fodder starts turning. 07:07 So when that shuck is all dry and the ears dropping down in the twe low twenties and the stalks completely green, top to bottom, 07:16 you've done a lot of things right. Got Got it. This is David. Uh, is there anything you wanna get me outta here on this? 07:22 Because there's people that are gonna say you're still wasting your money out there at R five. You're saying we're seeing the, 07:26 we're seeing the results of Kevin's. It's not quite true unless, as you said this is, if this, 07:31 if this looks like it's ready to be Halloween decoration, Get the 07:36 Combine in It. Yeah. It gets the combine or the chopper in It. Is there anything else on that? 07:40 No, you were just talking about the nitrogen and the potassium side of it. You know, we've got some other new products we've come to the table with just, 07:45 she like with our knockouts, the 10 0 10 we 0.251. Things like that we can look at going across this crop. But distill, I think as a whole, 07:52 the late season phosphorus where we really gotta start talking in the field more to the growers to, well 07:58 Are we going from football to boxing now or I mean that yeah. What you call it? Ten oh ten k. It sounds knock down 08:05 Knockout. We gotta get with Tommy on some of these names on. But anyway, you said it was a phosphorus and 08:10 Boron. It's a nitrogen and potassium. Okay. On that side. But you know, still, 08:15 I think it's the end of the day we still got our first downs for our phosphorus application if we're trying to get, 'cause we're gonna get nitrogen. 08:20 It's way and potassium. Yeah. A Question is how late is too late? And putting fertility on for corn at R five. Kevin's doing it. Stay tuned. 08:28 We'll keep you posted with this kind of stuff just like we do with all the great things that we're doing at these, uh, extreme ag trials and, and uh, field days. 08:35 We're here to help you learn and up your farming game. Hundreds of videos, podcasts that we've created, extreme Ag Farm, it's all there. 08:42 It's free share with somebody that can benefit, uh, their farming operation as well as zero own. Jason Warn with nature's Kevin Matthews Extreme Mag, I'm Dam Mason. 08:49 Until next time.