00:00 Hey, welcome to Madison Alabama where we're at Henderson's farm. And we're talking about a lab that extreme AG is conducting with our partners Agro liquid, 00:09 you know, Chad Henderson from all the great videos. He's produced in he's a founding member of Xtreme AG teamed up with agril liquid and did a lab 00:18 at four of the guys farms and I want to know what we're doing here. This is Molly Alexander. She is a Southeast Regional agronomist fragra liquid. This is Stephanie. Zelinko 00:27 National grounds for Agra liquid. And of course Chad Henderson. What are we looking at here? It's a bunch of corn. I got my notes. I'll 00:33 move them out of the way. So it's to not distract from that. What do we do here Chad? What do we do in this field of corn? So this is 00:39 one of our one of our just irrigated Farms. It's normal irrigated practice is what we've got here. This is not contest setting or anything like 00:45 that, but it's definitely not dry land because he's saying any pictures in Alabama right now. It is definitely not dry land because we're fired 00:51 up about that high. It's been three weeks since we had a rain two weeks of it was the average about 97 degrees. So it's 00:57 we're you know, we're doing all and do to keep this. Keep this going green. Keep it watered up, but we come in here and done a 40 acre trial of five different treatments and 01:06 it's replicated three different times forty percent four different four different times four different times. So it's a pretty good trial specifically you wanted to talk about something 01:15 that we did not discover with we're talking about trials that the other guys Farms like Matt miles and Kevin Matthews who are also Southeast but you got a new product and 01:24 capitalized that you want to talk about the results of and also full of you love full book. So whichever one of those you want to go with Molly 01:32 Well capitalize first foremost is not necessarily new. It is specific design specifically for the Southeast region. 01:38 So it's a potassium product and we added a bump of calcium and a bump of sulfur which is definitely important in so a corn soybeans and 01:47 then it also translates across cotton and peanuts as well. So that's why I was specifically designed for the Southeast region out here. 01:53 We wanted to do it in a 2x2 situation and see what we look like and then we did the full vic inferrow and then we also added some of the fulvic at V5 02:02 foliarly as well. Yeah about capitalize again that product is not necessarily new it was develop for the southeast. We have a lot of extreme AG people that keep up with us in the Southeast because the 02:11 influence of people like Chad here where does it stop being not where it was targeted for once we get north of Tennessee is that not what we're going to use capitalize you can 02:20 It in spot places outside of the southeast most of all what we did was we designed it more for storeability places. So we don't get quite as cold as 02:29 y'all do down here. So it's more of a storeability thing unless of an actual nutrient Factor. Okay. So is it soil is a soil 02:35 based? It's climatological based probably. Okay. It is soil base because we're looking at you know, those highly weathered soils that you see in the Southeast that have low calcium levels. So that calcium is 02:44 in there to address those needs. So for two because we do have a lot we have a big mix actually across the southeast but we do have a lot of Sandy areas down through here and sulfur likes to 02:53 run off and Leach and so this is going to be a way to add sulfur in whether you put it in the ground or over the top as well since I 02:59 like the informative direction we're taking on this because it's beyond just this trial it's also about the products. You're doing it Matt miles. 03:05 We stood in the field that could have been it could have been a beach it. Was that Sandy where I'm standing right here Chad. How would you compare this? Certainly? 03:11 It's not a beach. Oh, no, this is Clay right here. This is where they started. This is this is the location where they built the first Indians. 03:17 So the Oil stuff he's dealing with versus over at Matt miles and McGee Arkansas. The product mix the capitalized 03:27 was used over there. Yes. Okay. Well, we're looking at a cc. How about that? You know, let's look at it from 7 to 9 cc's is 03:33 what I'm at. Matt was lower than that. Probably three to five or something three to six and yes, so that's kind of what they 03:39 was targeting is the low CC's. Oh people like me, they're saying what's this low CC's? Yep, what's that going and you can do a better me. 03:48 So your CEC is your cation exchange capacity and essentially it just gives you a quick indication of your soil type. So is it Sandy or clay? And so it's 03:57 a measuring the amount of that clay organic matter in the soil. If you get a lot of that, you know, you have a heavy soil if that number is 04:03 really low then you know, you have a sandy soil and so with the Sandy soul I can't hold near as much as I can 04:09 help right? So with it always flushing through it's like this it's like to how big either this is like we have up north. They have 04:15 a screen wire, right? So we just floats through real slow down here. We have like chicken wire. Maybe even hold water. He just run. 04:20 The bottom of it. Okay. So is that better? Yeah, it's been fantastic right people. Listen to this. They're saying wait a minute. What are they 04:26 talking about cat eyes change capacities explain why that matters to me and then also talk about different porosities. You know, you're talking about is you 04:32 put a gallon of water at Matt miles. It's gonna go right there. And this is not so much the case. What do you hope to see in this trial? 04:39 Mostly what we're looking for is starting off early. So we did an infero treatment. So we did everything the same except added full vic into 04:48 it. So we're measuring the full vic as to whether we got a little bump of fertilizer that was already put down. So any dry and puts enhance uptake 04:57 of the info that was applied and then also breakdown of organic matter you love talking about full of Molly. Why do we what are we seeing 05:06 that full does that we didn't even use 10 years ago team makes him full vets have been around for years, but they have not had a lot 05:12 of marketing. Geared towards them or a lot of like true trial and test they've just been thrown out there and not necessarily measured and 05:18 so what I like about the full vic is in a fertilizer, you're like this year. We have many many years of dry and puts put out. You can pull a soil and say oh 05:27 we're sufficient, but did you actually get any of that uptake and utilization from the dry applications? You put out when I put full vic out. That's what I'm using to 05:36 bridge the gap between liquid and dry in my years worth of inputs that I actually get any out of it is the plant not using it is it 05:45 tied up full because where I'm going to bridge that Gap and be able to get what I need out of it get it utilized and get it 05:51 into the plant where it needs to be the product name that you have is called. 05:55 Oh, we're very creative. It's full. It's called forward. Whichever. You tell me and McGee Arkansas police. We know what it is. You're putting 06:01 this fall back out there and we'll stop by return on investment Chad. Am I gonna get return on investment on this? I know this is an extreme AG lab and that's why we're doing the experiment the 06:10 rate of over you put out. What is the return we'll talk about return right a full vic that I use you're not gonna return on this. Okay, because you guys that 06:19 have a gallon is good 10 gallons has to be ten times. That's so no with full vic. It's not actually that case but what Molly's after she's after fertilizer, she didn't put out 06:28 there, right? So she's active fertilizer and that's what in the fertilizer price in the world. We're living in today when we got spiked influence fertilized price. 06:34 This is a good place to put your money to make those available, you know, the fertilize that we use or couldn't use you're not available or 06:40 not uptake, you know, we talk about Plant Nutrition if and plant uptake if everybody could go out here and buy 400 bushel 06:46 blend from the co-op they back they all spread it and everything will be good. But that's the problem that we have you can put all you want out there, but you got to get it plan available. That's what the full. 06:55 Is in bridging that Gap she's telling that it's the fertilizers out there that's free that we didn't purchase or we purchased five years ago 07:01 or whatever. That hadn't been breakdown. It helps get that plant available. Just definitely what do you hope to see? You know, 07:07 you got extreme AG Labs going between four of our Farms. We've got a Kelly Garrett's in Iowa. We got it in Arkansas. We got here North Alabama. We got it and western North Central 07:16 and North Carolina with Kevin. What do you want to see here? What we're kind of looking for is we've you know done a lot of work with these guys 07:22 over the last few years doing components this year. We're focuses on full programs. So what can we do to meet all 07:28 that craft nutritional need and then do it in different geographies just to see that we can mix and match all our product line and come 07:34 up with something that works in all geographies. Yes. I like the idea one of our guys and what I've been you and it might have been Kelly 07:41 and it might have been all of you and one of our webinars once said, it's not just about a product. It's about a program the program you 07:47 did here. Is this something you think becomes because we like to talk about we did it as a lab and now at standard practice does this become 07:53 standard practice? Yeah, that's right in the product that we're done. Well, the program that we don't hear is real simple. This is a 07:59 farmer friendly program. This is not one of those deal where we get three ounces of this and eight ounces of this and 10 ounces this and we 08:05 got 40 jokes. And this is not that kind of deal. This is a normal farming practice to you where we can sit in here and we 08:11 can do this on thousands of acres and make it real easy for the mixing man. You know, I mean, it's just it's a simple program, you know, 08:17 and that's what we're after a simple approach something. Works and something that gives us an opportunity to move money 08:22 around, you know, because when I say moving money around it's because I'm going from a dry to a liquid or fertility 08:28 base and that's what I say when I say moving money around. Yeah, I like that you always talk about convenience you like compatibility every 08:34 one of our webinars about compatibility. You had no compatibility issues you like convenience cost. It doesn't seem like we're breaking the bank here. That's right. That's and that's 08:43 what we're after. I mean a lot of stuff a lot of farmers that you talk to we're the ones sitting on the trailer mixing the loads. We're the ones that's plugging up 08:49 the Planters, you know, we're the ones is trying to stuff so we have to have it simple. We're still having, you know, all of us, 08:55 you know, labors and issue. So we're trying to get as much done as we can in day with as few people as possible and it's it's got 09:01 to be simple if it's a simple and a good systems approach then we're locked in our Molly. This is your 09:07 lab you cover the south east. This is good looking corn but always, you know, whenever completely satisfied 09:13 getting from our state. He's gonna say anything. No, here's why I'm asking 09:17 Is there anything that's disappointing you about this or anything that you're like man? It's good, but 09:22 So the only variation in this field that was a problem for Chad and I wouldn't even say it was a problem because it's it happens everywhere that anyone has terrorists Fields. 09:31 So you get a lot of flex in the planner you get a lot of low spots in the field. So necessarily. It's not a perfect read all the way across but it 09:40 does give you enough variation and measuring points that you can see. Hey if I hit a bottom row did the fertilizer 09:46 that I put in help that bottom row from years past that he has as far as yield data. And so that's the only I wouldn't even call it a problem. That's the only thing we run into 09:55 that would cause any variation across this variability of where the seed went in because your court your 10:01 Planters like this for because of the nutrients moved over here from here both. It's both because you do have variation in your 10:07 planner because you do have a flex situation and you get a little bit of difference in planning depth location. And then also 10:13 you have nutrient movement because yeah, it is Clay but I mean we still do run off and Clay because if it hardens you get 10:19 what you call furrows through there and water will run through it to a Point so you do have nutrient movement as well. Even though 10:25 we talk about sampling in two and a half acre grids. Well, there's still a lot of movement from here to there and there's no 10:31 perfect soil. There is I mean, there's gumbo there's clay. There's still there's loan there is no perfect soil. There's always a variation across 10:37 there. And if anyone tells you they have perfect soil their line. All right. So since he's the since he knows he doesn't have perfect Soul because yeah, he's told us he's told us privately that 10:46 when I got him drinking angry Orchards, he says, okay, man, I don't have the greatest soil in the world Chad. I got it honey. I don't even have soul. Oh Lord, 10:52 so I don't have dirt. I'm the only one the crew that has dirt. Everybody else has Soul Kelly Souls. Like he's Grandaddy headed to Soul, you know the Same Soul named him Farm the same so you 11:01 just like, you know, so, it's me this you're the one that's the perfectionist that you know, you like to drive your race car fast and you like to always do more and again, 11:10 I'm not saying any problem when you look at this, what's your yeah, it's really gonna be good. But there's this one thing 11:16 I would have liked to seen or one thing maybe so this this field is stripped healed so we put a 11:22 A P&K blend down early and when you stripped here what we're learning about strip deals, we run a 2012 row strip tail and a 24 row planter and that's some 11:31 of what Molly was talking about there. Even in your best conditions with rtk technology. It's still gonna 11:37 get a movement when you cross a Terrace and you get a roll it's gonna get a movement. So when you don't plan if your planter 11:43 set up to plant on that strip and then your planter moves off the strip, it's changes. It changes the down pressure. 11:49 It changes the way the seed location is it changes the depth of sea there's multiple thing that changes here. And so that's what she's talking 11:55 about. When you get a variability the planter won't Flex the same way that the strip to a bar Flex. So then you cross a tears and 12:01 then it's all good. You never see this if you get the perfect rain right behind it. We didn't get the perfect rain. We went in a 12:07 dry spell we irrigated some of this corn to get get to get the moisture to meet when you do that. You see the flaws in it. 12:13 I mean I could walk out here and I can pick this corner part, but I'm like Molly I'm never happy with it. You know. Well, that's why we're 12:19 doing this. So on this whole thing, I'd say we're What's our yield gonna be on this lab? Who's gonna be prediction? 12:27 Chad give me predict. I'll take that one. I'll phone a friend. What's you gonna be in which one and 12:33 then you might do every flag. I can tell you what it's gonna be in every flag if you five different 12:40 replications. So we've got five different things going. What's the What's It Gonna vary from one to the other? So the one 12:46 thing we picked up on this year is you know last year we had ample rainfall and we had low soda radiation this week. We've getting low self solar 12:52 radiation. Well right now I can I can't tell you but a lot of people can tell you if we're irrigated and we're 100% but sunlight we're full timing. It's full forehead now. 13:01 Can I keep the irrigation up if I can keep the irrigator up and keep it keep it wet. You know, we're gonna make good corn 13:07 here. It's gonna be anywhere from I don't know. It'll be from 280 to 310. Okay here we're recording this at the 13:13 very end of June. So we keep that water on it another 40 Days. We're smooth 40 13:19 days. We're somewhere around the last week of July when we start shutting them down is is kind of where we'll be 13:25 yet, you know, are you happy about Out here Stephanie. Zelenko. Nice for really good. I am happy the corn looks really good. It's the 13:33 best chord I've seen and we're learning but oh and we're like my corner. She's like my course that I been nowhere 13:39 else. Yeah. No, my corn is behind Michigan was good for the qualification Molly. You're happy about what we're learning. Yes. 13:47 I am too and I appreciate you really good job of telling us about all that Stephanie's illenko Molly Alexander with 13:53 Agra liquid Chad Anderson from extreme Farms from extreme egg and Henderson Farms. I'm Dave Mason for extreme AG til next time.