00:00 Asking the question, what's new and what's it do for you and your farming operation from Commodity Classic 2024. 00:05 I'm in the TIVA booth here with Mark Koch. You might know Mark. He's been on countless episodes with me talking about cool stuff. 00:12 Speaking of cool stuff, everybody seems to be now dialed in on carbon, carbon, carbon, carbon based technologies. 00:17 I get people talking to me about, do you know anything about these new carbon based fertility products? 00:20 I'm like, I'm not sure this is all that new. I'm not talking about carbon programs, carbon sequestration. I'm talking about carbon as we use it to make plants grow. 00:28 This isn't all that new, is it Mark? No, we've been at it for about 35 years and I think we kind of made ourself the standard of, 00:35 you know, in, in this industry, you know, we've been doing it, um, for a long time, even before it's popular. 00:42 It's very popular now. So it wasn't popular 35 and 40 years ago. You know, this Is a bit like being the, uh, the company 00:48 that made bib overalls. Then the bib overalls got popular again or something. You've been doing the same thing for a long time. 00:52 You're like the, the Smuckers of carbon. But here's the thing. CA, we talked about that the very first day I met you. 00:58 Yeah, it's a carbon based program, pro product. It's a, it's our vic acid. It's our flagship product that we've had. 01:04 Uh, you know, it's going to make a two-lane highway into an eight lane highway, as my son says, you know, it just gets, 01:10 moves nutrients in the plants. That's what it's supposed to Do. That's what I was getting ready to ask. I 01:13 wanted to ask Matt here, Matt Miles extreme Ag Farm, mark Tiva, um, we, we've got a lot of history here. 01:19 You guys have been working together for more than a decade, pushing two decades. What does the person that's now starting 01:26 to learn about carbon need to know that you've known for two decades? Just exactly what Mark said. That's a great analogy. 01:33 It turns to two lane highway and the eight lane highway. It enables the plant to take up what you put out. 01:38 So if you're putting something out without carbon, without sea catt, you're gonna get a percentage of it in there. 01:44 If you put it in there with the Sea Catt, it's gonna increase that Dramatically. Alright. If I'm gonna be 01:47 the person that's still learning, 'cause uh, I am, it's not about movement in the soil. We talk a lot about like phosphorus can't get from here to 01:55 where that camera is because it doesn't move in the soil. You guys taught me that. But 01:58 you're talking about moving inside the plant. You're not talking about moving carbon. Don't make it move in the soil. 02:02 It makes it available to move in the plant. Is that right? That's right. So you got the fulvic acid 02:06 that's gonna move it into the plant. Then you got the sugar that's going to energize the plant to, to energize it, go 02:12 and then got the PGRs like complex to uh, tell everything where to go and what to do in that situation. 02:19 So that's why they were all kind of work hand in glove, you know, and what they're doing there. So all this talk about carbon, how do I use it? 02:24 I mean it's, I obviously we're talking about, we had a big panel about sequestering. We had a big panel about, you know, not releasing it. 02:30 That was, you know, carbon programs we're talking about now about utilizing a carbon based product 02:35 to give you yield. How do I use it? How do you use it on every, just about every application you would make from infer 02:42 fertilizer, tub by tube, your fertilizer. We use it on foliar applications. We use it as a nitrogen stabilizer. 02:48 So instead of using some of these other products that are damaging the, so we put a quart to two ports of sea cat in there and, and it does a trick. 02:55 There's a lot of carbon products out there. Yep. You said 35 years. Three generations here. Yeah. This man knows what he's doing when it comes to carbon. 03:04 And Kelly Garrett has talked about the carbon to nitrogen, uh, ratio. And then I think that maybe I've heard something 03:11 from you at one of our field days. Explain that real quickly because carbon's all the new buzzword, 03:15 but it's gotta be in the right ratio. Yeah. In the soil. Like humus, pure humus is a 12 to one carbon 03:21 to nitrogen ratio. So when you're converting stove and all those kind of things, like corn may be a 35 to 40 to one, you want to get it to a 12 to one. 03:29 So it turns to humus and then that fertilizer is available for the plant to use and everything. 03:34 So make it usable as to be at a, In the usable, in a humus form. Once it's decomposed in a form that it can be used. 03:41 Yeah. So the ratio again was 12 to One Night. But if, but if you're out here and you've got way too much, um, stove and all that, your ratio is off 03:49 to the high side of carbon. That's right. Okay. Yeah. So we're going to convert that to where it's usable form so that we can buy that fertilizer, 03:56 use that fertilizer instead of going to town and buying it. And in a year when efficiency matters, this is where you 04:02 Can get, okay, a skeptical question. He's got a whole bunch of stove out there. He is just done 260 bushel corn. He's got all kinds of that. 04:08 That's carbon. Why do I need to use something like your product, which seems like it's adding carbon to carbon 04:12 Well, because it's feeding the bacteria and all the things like that and getting those things into the plant 04:17 to start that conversion over. 'cause you've gotta get nitrogen in that, in that stove and get those bacteria going to be able to, for them 04:23 to start their decomposition. So probably this is de the decomposition is what matters. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Alright. What else do I need to know? 04:29 Carbon's a new sexy word we've been hearing about from, you know, a lot here the last couple of years, particularly walking around the show floor here. 04:35 What do I need to know? You've got plenty of experience with it. What do I need to know when I think about carbon? 04:39 Well, I would tell you this. Look, if you're ever wanting something into the plant, you want to use fulvic acid, like sea A to get in the plant. 04:45 I don't care if it's a fungicide, a fertilizer, a herbicide, whatever it is, you want to get in the plant, you want 04:50 to use a, you know, there's lots of competitors out there, you know, that's doing it. And a lot more now, when I started this in 1979 with my dad, 04:58 there were about five biological companies in the world and maybe three or four are humus guys now. There's about 5,000 biological companies 05:04 and a lot of different mates out there. So guys, all I can tell you is that you really have to watch what you're looking at. 05:10 Yeah. And see what they're telling you and make sure they understand what they're doing with it. So anything I, anything to add on the carbon thing that, 05:17 uh, it, it seems like it's a buzz buzzy word now, but it's not like it's new. No. It and, and and Mark's a hundred percent. Right. 05:23 And where I'm on too. Mark's horn. You go see him, you go see him at Tiva. Yeah. If he don't think you need something, he pulls that out. 05:31 It's not about much about sales to him, it's making sure that we're still in business for years to come. 05:35 So one of the most honest, top quality top shelf companies that I've dealt with, His name's Mark Kouts. 05:42 Guy that runs Tiva, that's the booth I'm standing right now. Commodity Classic. You just heard from Matt Miles. 05:46 I'm David Mason. Thanks for joining us. We're asking the question, what's new, what's it do for you? Commodity classic 2024.