00:00 Hey there. We're talking about pre-emergent herbicide used in soybeans and the evolution of such herbicides from what we did to 00:07 what we're doing now to what happened in between. We're standing in Andy Ental soybean field. I got Phil Bruner with BASF with me 00:12 and of course extreme Ag Zone temple roads. Okay. Tell me what you did in this field. Andy Banal. We are no-till beans in right 00:21 after the corn, so we've gotta have some sort of residual, 'cause we don't have enough layered down. 00:26 So we come in with, uh, a roundup pass for the burn down and ua. That way we can get some control until we can come in 00:32 with a later pass with other products. You pulled Up your cheat sheet to remember your dates and times. This happened a little bit later than normal. 00:38 Normally here we're in northern Indiana. You normally would like to be putting out your pre-emergence, maybe end of April, mid 00:44 April even. Mm-Hmm. Yeah. This happened about mid-May. Yes. Mid-May because the weather 00:48 just did not let us get in on it. And that was moisture, not temperature. Right. Did do, do you see a, a degree 00:53 of difference based on degree of weather? In other words, if it stays cold, does this stuff stick around longer or does it work less? 00:59 I don't know the answer to that. If You're getting later season, 'cause we were warmer this year. 01:03 Yep. So we did have some growth. So coming in later, it did help knock it down with the roundup in that. 01:07 So with the warmer weather, we did have more weed pressure this year. So I think that later, later application did get us a little 01:12 further in because of the weather patterns we've had this year. What I like about this product is, is when you talk about, 01:18 yeah, you can, you can put it in at multiple different applications. You can put it in pre on the surface. 01:23 You can put it on after they're cracking the ground right after the planter. Or you can wait until they go all the 01:28 way up to almost V six. So you have a big window that you can get in. And this year everybody in the country struggled, 01:34 whether it was drought or whether it was wet, whatever it was, you have a big window that you can get in and you can see, I mean, 01:41 you've got a, you've held the ground. Like we talked about MA's tale before. We, that's our biggest help. 01:46 That's one of the things that we've been using Z on. Seems like the fields that we've used Z on, it really holds them back. 01:53 So, Phil Burner, um, one of the things that we're hearing here, and before we hit record, we said, man, in the old days when you had dual herbicide, it had 02:00 to go out there and then you certainly didn't want to use it after a certain, you know, after a emergence or whatever. 02:06 And now we've got a product that has a pretty big, uh, window of timing. So from weather, from temperature, 02:12 and also even from crop emergence. So is that the selling point residual? Um, I mean that's part of it. 02:16 The residual pro and residual sc. So one is you use primarily the burn down and pre-emergence. I think that's the pro. But if you start cracking 02:24 and going, the pro has ding a little bit, that's when you switch to the sc. It's on soybeans too. So keep in mind, 02:29 if you're just using sua, if you're a guy that you're planting corn and beans at the same time, 02:34 let's say Andy's got two planters running and two different fields, and he is got one sprayer, he doesn't have to rinse out. 02:40 As long as you don't put atrazine in that and you're making an application, you can put SUA on your corn 02:45 as well at the same time you're putting on, on the beans. So there's no rinse out. 02:49 You're a no-till guy. Yeah. The, the whole thing happened about mid nineties all of a sudden. 02:55 1996. You don't have to till you go right into cornstalks used to drill in back then a lot of times. 03:00 Yeah. Soybeans, you go over 'em once, maybe twice with a roundup, then we invented Roundup tolerant, uh, the weeds, et cetera. 03:08 It's, we're back to using pres. Is this where we're gonna be? Either of anybody? I think it's 03:13 The way it's gonna come along because of the conservation issues we have now that we have to protect the soil, we have to protect the water. 03:19 Yep. So we've gotta hold that soil where it's at. So leaving that residue down and being able to come in with a product like Edgewood 03:25 that will keep your weeds under control and give you that application window. I, I think it's a win. 03:30 Is this where we stay because of the, is that one of the reasons what We're finding out is, you know, anytime 03:35 that we make a contact killer, you know, with a bunch of different ones, what you'll end up doing is that you'll be, you're, 03:40 you're stopping that plant for a minute. Even though that that plant can handle that herbicide, it has to still metabolize that chemical. 03:48 You take the chance of maybe dinging it a little bit and, and holding it back. But you also have, a lot 03:54 of times we have a micronutrient deficiency Mm-Hmm. In that plant. When we make that, when we make that application. 03:59 So when you start to stack it, a lot of times, like when we use Zible Pro, when we first started with it three or four years ago, 04:05 we were going in with Zible Pro. And we never went back in with glyphosate at all. The whole season. Now that's not every season, 04:11 but probably 60 to 70% of our soybeans, we never went back in again. You didn't Have to, you don't have to do post herbicide. 04:17 No. That's generally probably, especially if you got moisture like we have Mm-Hmm. You're like this, you're, you're, you're not gonna be able 04:23 to get by with just the pre Right. Because we did come back in with a, a post after that. But I will say the pressure was not 04:29 like you thought it would be. It did, it did hold quite Well. Got it. Get me outta here, Phil. 04:33 Yep. Well that's, that's the, the whole key is you wanna start clean, keep it clean, stay clean, finish clean. 04:39 Um, if you have escapes, uh, you don't want to start building a seed bank in the soil to exacerbate your problem every time. 04:46 Water, hemp, palm, or perfect examples. Right, right. 2 million seeds per plant. Yeah. And, uh, that, that, that just goes quick. 04:52 So, I mean, you gotta get in front of it. It's way cheaper to prevent a problem from occurring than fixing it after it 04:57 Happened. Proactive, not react. Yeah, I've heard those things before. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound, a cure. 05:02 Any al field here in Northern Indiana. I'm David Mason coming at you with hundreds of videos just like this from the field, 05:06 helping you improve your farming game. Go to extreme Ag Farm. Thank you. Temple Roads. Thank you, Phil Bruner. Until next time.