00:00 So question for you, are you calcium deficient? Okay, not you are your soils calcium Division and more importantly are your crops calcium deficient we're 00:09 talking today about calcium and odds are based on all the findings that we have here at extreme AG. You're probably not getting the calcium into your 00:18 plants that you need to for maximum yield. Am I right Kelly Garrett are we calcium deficient as a problem throughout American 00:27 agriculture, I believe so we absolutely are here. We started taking pretty extensive tissue samples building our own database starting in 2016 from 00:36 two thousand 16 to 2022 calcium is by far our biggest nutrient deficiency. You said even amongst the extreme guys and 00:45 you know, if you're tuning in here you tune in because we give you the iron varnish truth, but we also will tell you our success and 00:51 our failures our five guys on their tissue samples have found that calcium is efficient. It's the number one. It's the number one deficiency. 01:00 All right, Mike Evans integrated AG Solutions business partner with Kelly Garrett. You're the agronomic people here. You're the one that's like saying. All right, man. Here's this problem are these 01:09 crops calcium deficient. They look good to me. I'm looking around. They look fine to me. How do I know they're calcium deficient tissue sampling 01:15 and also fine. This is a problem corn looks good. Yeah, I mean guava's come through tissue sampling that we've done even our soil is depleted in calcium 01:25 though the soil test we ran over the years. That's why we that's why a lot of people line is because their soils 01:31 they think it's pH but also it's because the calcium is low. So there's a lot of data that support that and when you look at crops beans 01:40 or corn we look at our beans a lot for structure and stuff and corn it, you know, calcium is very important calcium is a trucker of all minerals. So it's brings a 01:49 lot of minerals in it. You got a good calcium plant. It's really pumping nutrients up through the floor and everything and it's happy. Yeah and Sean goth Miller concept 01:58 Agate. We're sitting next to something called concept and product called Cal borer presumably the 02:04 cow means calcium Brown. I don't get into your product. I want to get into the actual problem and then we'll talk about your product can remedy it might answer my question 02:13 that cornfield looks fine to me. Is it calcium deficient find compared to what? Okay, that's a good 02:19 Very good. It does a good point there. Every there's lost potential in every field. I've Ever Raised. So to me that doesn't look fine because it's not perfect. Okay, it's deficient in calcium and 02:28 amongst other things. Yeah, and you know, we talk about tissue sampling. There's not Chad Henderson's there in Madison Alabama last month, and he kind of 02:37 came unhinged on people and their tissue sampling says you can overdo it people do it and then they just react immediately and go out start making a bunch of changes and all of 02:46 a sudden it didn't do it. So tissue sampling is valuable tool, but doesn't mean she's overact you saw tissue sampling. 02:53 Calcium deficiencies year over year over. Yes and Chad's right. You can't like before we started filming this Evans and I are just looking the email 03:02 we just got from Next Level Ag and and we're thinking look at look at what we've accomplished versus when we sent him in the last week, but that doesn't mean we're going to go overreact to 03:11 these samples if there's a problem and go do it the tissue sample database that we're building is year over year. And as 03:17 you have said we've got we've seen this in last year's so then you try to remedy it. So when you get it back on a tissue sample, 03:23 and if you think you're gonna go fix it you already too late and you're wasting money. So Calcium deficiency as a trend after enough years, 03:29 you're like, okay. I've seen this in the tissue samples from this month from last month from last year from the year before that and 03:35 you're gonna go about removing it in the old days. We do tissue samples Mike. We just did soil samples if I took soil samples 03:41 what I know that I don't have calcium out there because Kelly says no we probably got enough calcium out there. It's just not getting up 03:47 the plant. Am I right? Oh, yeah. I mean traditionally go take samples. 03:53 Summer pH. You really didn't even look at calcium. Most guys. Look at their CH tractor pH with calcium carbonate. Yeah putting 03:59 lime on putting lime on to knock off the hydrogen or whatever is holding that cation. Yeah and and supplemented with 04:05 calcium. So that's what historically done now through tissue sampling some more advanced testing mechanisms. We know where the calcium is at and what it's 04:14 doing. In the last Hills in Western Iowa, we have entirely plenty of calcium. The problem is calcium is a 04:24 double positive charge. Okay and everything in that soil wants to get to a neutral charge. So calcium will tie up all over there by making itself become unavailable. 04:33 And if you could find a way to make the calcium become available, that's great, but it's very difficult. It's a hard nutrient a hard element to deal 04:42 with that's why a foliar application or a or fertigation in the drip either one of a calcium 04:48 product like cowboy is important because it's hard to make it become available in our soil. So the calcium is not available. It's around it's out there there's plenty of it and it's 04:57 not getting up there and I'm saying, okay do I care? It's not like there's bones. It's not like I need calcium for for you know for my osteoporosis. Why 05:06 do we need calcium? He said something about it being the carrier of all new talk to me about that. So I mean at the 05:12 end of the day, we all want bushels and like when you get to To locate your corn plants. What we're trying to do is pack all those 05:18 nutrients into the plant to make starch, right? So what is the main driver of starch we get to calcium so calcium packing it in there's you see 05:27 those nice dimples on your corn where you don't we don't want dimples. Okay, we want it. We had a nice rounded plant. So we're 05:33 getting 63 to 65 test weight test weight and that's the real yield limiting factor that we got on a lot of guys feel. Well, you 05:42 know what we won't even go in this direction. We're about calcium deficiencies. If we get enough calcium going up 05:48 in the plant. It has test weight. Yes, and then we're adding bushels through test way. Oh, yeah because we sell pounds not bushels. Let's face it, you know, so answer me. 05:57 This is important for just corn calcium. No out here in this field last year right behind the camera. We had 80 85 06:06 bushel beats. Yeah, but Evans that I walked out there and looked the lower branches of the plants had so many pods 06:12 on them that they couldn't support themselves. They laid on the ground. The combine went over top of them. We thought it was 15 to 20 06:18 bushel. We left laying this field it was it was a bad day how would calcium have helped Mike it helped build the structure of the bottom plant of the branches. Yeah, really? It's 06:27 kind of used to set osteoporosis. It's the same that same concept. I mean help build those joints make them strong 06:33 like just like we want strong. So if we had had more calcium and that soybean field instead of 80 or 85 bushels, we did done maybe a hundred because those bottom pods 06:42 would have actually stayed up and not been on the ground. Yeah. The branches was a little bit more vertical versus 06:48 out. No now here's Zeal. There's a little hypothetical you're saying. What a 06:52 If ifs and what is why we have why are you certain we have trials out this year where we applied calcium at the V2 stage. Yep, and Evans 07:01 brought in plants from the applied and unapplied area. And I you know, you just touch them with your finger the unapplied area. I broke it the applied 07:10 area three to four times the force and you cannot believe the strength of that plant. There is no water here. 07:16 We did it. Okay, you talked about putting this stuff on how do you at Garrett Land and Cattle use this Cowboy product and it doesn't have to be cowboy. No offense. I mean, I know that you work for this company. 07:25 There's other calcium products. This is calcium and Boron and we think that those are two of the most under found I 07:32 guess nutrients that we see deficiencies of right? How are you using it? Oh foliar or through the drip and when you put it on folder 07:41 Like we said we do in Trials at the early Bean stage V2, but on your corn. Yeah corn V4 V5. Okay. I'm just you know, and you're also gonna run it through your drip subsurface 07:50 drip irrigation. We are running it through we are gonna run calcium through the drip irrigation because of the EC problem with our water and 07:56 that stands for electrical conductivity. All right. Calcium. Can you get too much of it? I don't think we can get enough in the plant and that's one of the but I will reply that can the 08:06 plant will take so much or is it just a matter of you think you can keep slinging this stuff out there and and it's kind of the less is 08:12 more type of type of an analogy. We're running 16 ounces. We want constant calcium getting into the plant Sean says, 08:18 you can't get too much calcium in a plant. Are you spoon feeding this? I mean, you said you can go through dripping go through the full ear. Are you 08:27 doing it multiple times in the season Mike? Yeah. We've on this particular Field behind us. We've put it in for Oh by two 08:33 we did a early V4 application of it. And then now we've been putting it through the drip. Are we doing four times? Yes, and that's important because again the calcium 08:42 gets so tied up in the soil. We need multiple applications as he said less is more. We need multiple shots of 08:48 calcium because it ties up in the soil and you need it to become available and be in the plant throughout the plant's life. This is gonna sound stupid John is Cowboy a calcium or 08:57 is it just a release of That's already in my soil because they're putting out there four times. Is it an additive of calcium or is it just helped me grab calcium that 09:06 I've already put in my field. It is a true calcium. So we're getting calcium into the plant with this how much money how much 09:12 my talking about because you're the money guy around here how much my spending and what am I expecting my return? 09:17 Oh, that's a tough question. That's probably a better one for Mike. That's a variable question depending upon 09:23 the soil and what's available so you're not putting the same rate you you do it based on some to after enough history of tissue samples. 09:29 You're very irate by field to field. Yeah. I mean, it's just kind of spoon feeding it getting the planner plant hungry for it having it available there. So that's 09:38 can you give me some rough idea on numbers what we're trying to run this two to three times a year. I mean for this top 09:44 Echelon yield. He might be running the three to four area but like when he's hitting that top Echelon of 09:50 test weight and trying to push all these bushels in there, like he said like calcium is all about self structure. So we're trying to get the tallest thickest biggest ears 09:59 we can possibly do and that takes calcium. So you got to be doing it as much as you possibly can do we use this anywhere else or is this a corner soybean product cowboy? No. 10:09 Honestly, we just had test results out of North Carolina where we did one pass and it picked up 10 to 15 bushels. And then 10:15 looking at the second pass two weeks after we did it on flagly. We were picking up anywhere from 15 to 20 bushels on top of that. Do you think that you've addressed the Calcium deficiency 10:24 in plants at Garrett Land and Cattle adequately? I think we're on the right track. I think we're from what we've seen this year in the sampling and everything. We've done we're white. Here's 10:35 ahead of where we were last year. Do you think you think you're where you need to be or is there not some new thing ever thinking where I 10:41 need to be on calcium. Is there some new nugget that's gonna come. Oh, we identified calcium as a yield limiting factor last year. We've addressed 10:47 it this year, but I don't think we're at the destination. I don't think we're at the end of The Journey but we're on the way sure gotcha. All 10:53 right. His name is Sean goth Miller and he works for concept Agate. If you want to learn more about this product Cowboy or any other biological products go 11:02 to concept digotech.com and there's a K on the end of it. Yes got it. And his name is Mike Evans with Integrated Solutions. He Partners around here making all these fields 11:11 look beautiful with Kelly Garrett one of the founders of extreme egg. I'm Damian Mason check out all of our great content share 11:17 this around because you know what I open by asking you are you calcium division. Well, maybe you're not but there's a Almost 100% guarantee chance 11:26 that your that your crops that your crop. And maybe your soil is not right it right exactly. It's all about it. What's going on in the plant until next time? I'm Dave Mason. 11:35 Thanks for being here.