A Tough Test For This Biological
5 Jun 2311 min 15 sec

Chad is trialing a new biological product from

Holganix

 on a corn field that has been in soybeans for over 60 years prior.  He talks about the trial with Damian and looks at some early root development.

00:00 Hey, we got some exciting stuff with the new product line we're trying out from organics. 00:05 I'm in Chad Henderson's river bottom field that he told me for 60 years was in soybeans. Well, it's in corn right now. If you look over our shoulders, 00:13 I got Barrett Erek and Caleb, uh, den Witty. Uh, he's a farmer dealer for this company, Gans, and he's the CEO of Organics. Chad Henderson. Comic Exciting. Got a big trial going on. 00:23 We're not gonna bore you when make you walk across the mud or make us walk across the mud. Just got of rain last night, but he's got it flagged off. 00:30 Pretty exciting stuff. Bio 800, uh, it's a, he put that at time of planting. It's a biological product. Bio stimulant. Uh, I don't know. 00:38 Correct me on where I am and tell us what you're doing. Yeah, so it's a microbial product that really, uh, we, our focus is to use biodiversity to drive soil health, healthy soil, 00:47 healthy plants. Yeah. So we don't just see, uh, microbes getting one job done, but we see them getting a broad spectrum done. It's called Bio 800, 00:53 cuz we use overhear 800 species of bacteria, fungi, ABA, and protozoa, all working together in a system approach to drive that healthy soil. Caleb, 01:01 You and I apparently knew each other from an event that I spoke at years ago, and then I was kind of interested. You're a large scale farmer in Tennessee, 01:08 you also are a farmer dealer for this product line. How'd you come into this? Why are you del dealing this stuff? 01:14 Because on our farm we've been dealt to a lot of issues. We've been chasing yield and we've probably done some harm to our, to our soul. 01:21 We're here to improve our soils and, uh, chase healthier plants and better yields. What do You hope to see Chad? 01:28 Money? Well, obviously big yield money. Well, a short Ass, Hey. Well, the one thing I tell you for sure, 01:33 I'm guessing if this field right here is not nitrogen deprived, if it's been in soybeans for 60 years, but that's just a guess. Oh, 01:38 That's everything Deprived. It gets flooded about three outta five years. Water come over in the winter, you know. Um, this is again, a river bottom. 01:45 It's made out here. We'll leave part of this out here for rent for ducks and geese, you know, made to feed the wildlife in the habitat. So, you know, there's things, 01:51 there's always new weeds introduced to me down here, you know, because the birds are bringing 'em in or the water, you know, um, 01:57 Caleb knows about that up and some of the stuff he works from Tennessee, you know. Well, 02:00 What's interesting is we're literally, uh, this looks like a pretty neat field to me, but we're about a hundred feet from the Tennessee River, and it's, uh, 02:06 it ain't a small river. So anyway, um, what have you seen, you've been using this product for three years. Three years? Okay. 02:13 What have you seen? So we've seen better roots, yield return, and reduce fertilizer. Okay. Reduce fertilizer because we're getting biological activity that, uh, 02:23 makes fertility more available. What's the promise of that, Mr. Uh, uh, Barrett? What are we, what are, why are we seeing better fertility? 02:29 Yes. So fundamentally healthier soil is gonna, is gonna get nutrients to a plant more efficiently. Got it. Deeper, thicker roots are gonna give us more ability to, to surf, to, to, uh, 02:40 seek out nutrients in that soil uhhuh. And we use microbes that help make nutrient more efficient to the plant. Things like phosphorous, solubilizing, 02:46 fungi are gonna pull phosphorous outta the soil, make it available to the plant, using over 800 species of bacteria, fungi, ameba, 02:53 and proso that are all working together. Most of your other microbials, while they may do a specific job very well, 02:58 they're gonna be very limited in their biodiversity. A single microbe, a half a dozen species, and we're using that biodiversity. So it's a holy, 03:04 what we do is a totally different approach. We see microbes as a tool to drive soil health, not as a component to get a specific trait from a, 03:12 from a plant or a specific protection from a plant. Chad, You're nodding your head. Uh, we, 03:17 Oh, my mine's running. Well, we've been Running, my mine is running and we've been putting you've been putting the biologicals out there for a while, 03:22 So, so, you know, here what we're learning is farmers, you know, Caleb can attest this, you know, is, is, um, we, 03:28 we had this soil to work with one time, you know what I mean? And we gotta take care of it. And, and all farmers are my dad, my granddad, all, 03:34 we've always taken care of the soil as best as their ability more than people think, because we gotta make a living with it. You know? So anything we can do, 03:41 we know, we, we've started talking about the words over the last five years, sustainable efficiency, you know, we can, 03:46 we're talking about fertilizer use rates going down, we're talking about being more sustainable using the pieces we've got with us. Mm-hmm. So that's what I see this product fitting into that category, you know, 03:55 and us being able to, to make a better root zone and reach and get more of the nutrients that we already have instead of just dumping more fertilizer 04:01 Out there. Speaking of dumping fertilizer out there, Caleb, has it been your experience you've been able to cut for fertilizer rates and 04:05 still maintain or increase yields? Yes. Okay. And that's obviously fertilizer prices are not as high as they were a couple of years ago, but still a pretty big, uh, factor. 04:13 Yeah. And, you know, we want to do economically sound practices. We wanna put the fertilizer where it's needed and not overly and do any harm to 04:21 the environment. You Have three years of experience. Have you made any mistakes? Have you made a mistake that you can help us learn from so that Chad doesn't 04:26 make the mistake? Uh, year one, we didn't apply the product properly. We weren't as close to planning as possible. Uh, we, uh, 04:35 we, that's really about it. Did it called You a yield? Did they called you a yield loss or just not as much of a gain as you had hoped? Or what was the experience? 04:40 We got seven bushels of corn. Seven bushels of beans improvement. Yeah. And we didn't reduce 04:46 Fertilizer. That was his total yield. I'm saying that's a screw up. No. Yeah. All 04:49 Right. And, and we didn't reduce fertilizer. I've had times I wanted to make seven money. Hey, one thing we talk about biologicals is they got a shelf life. I mean, 04:57 again, it's like storing milk. And I said a little bit ago, um, you said our dealers, Caleb, actually have refrigerated storage. I mean, 05:04 this is like, uh, my favorite Coors banquet. If you want to be a distributor for Coors Banquet, you gotta have refrigerated storage. Is it that way? You've gotta, 05:10 you built a warehouse with refrigeration. We have a refrigerated storage wing store, about 35,000 acres, uh, today. 35,000 05:17 Acres worth of product. Yes. Yep. Okay. And then, uh, if I buy it from you, I don't have refrigerated storage. You know, Chad points us out if you're, 05:23 if I tell you, Hey, this has a shelf life, what's your first reaction? Yeah, I'm 05:26 Like, you know, we're in Alabama, it's gonna get hot. Like, what do I need to do? You know, obviously wanna keep it in the shade, you know, 05:31 and Caleb talked to me about that when he brought it, you know, Hey, just keep it in the shade. Let's keep it in a, 05:34 in a ventilated type area if you would, you know, some breeze going through or whatever. But what else can we do? Co You have six weeks to use it and we've not had any issues. 05:42 But if you do have an issue, we're gonna stand behind the product. Hey, wait A minute. That's supposed to be his role. 05:47 That's supposed to be his line right there. He's gonna stand behind The property, 05:49 He's gonna stand. So let's say I buy it off of Caleb and I'm in, it rains and I can't get out there, 05:53 and all of a sudden I'm at the eight week mark. This stuff is spoiled. It's dead, right? Yeah. 05:56 So if, first of all, it'll tell you if it's alive or dead. So if you're not sure it's been sitting out for five, six weeks, eh, 06:01 I don't know, man, am I there? Open up the lid, smell it smells like Coors Light and Sam Sam Adams and Glazed Donut mixed together. You're okay If it smells like something you can't get near, 06:10 your dog wouldn't eat that probably went anaerobic on you. All right? So I just lost my money 06:13 Now if no, hell no. If you, if that happens, you give us a call, we will replace for you. No questions asked, no cost. Got it. So we don't, 06:19 you know, we know sometimes things happen in the field. We want you to apply active living microbes. We're gonna do everything we can do to ensure that happens. 06:26 And that includes making our dealers have cold chain supply. Yeah. So we're the only company out there that's ensuring to give you that active 06:32 living microbe and, and backstopping. It. It Doesn't do us any good to have you put on something that's dead and doesn't work. Let's face it. Now the next thing is compatibility. 06:39 Chad talks about it all the time. Sometimes we got stuff that's like, Hey, is there gonna, is this gonna mix? 06:43 Is it gonna cause am I gonna gum up my sprayer unit? Am I gonna gum this? Is there a compatibility issue? Have you experienced any compatibility issues? 06:49 Caleb? No. We haven't had any issues. Uh, we, uh, we've not had any. And how many different ways have you used it? 06:56 Uh, every, you can mix it with anything but a fungicide, fertilized water, you know, it doesn't matter. City water, county water, 07:03 Herbicides, I mean, NOIC herbicides In general. We want this, we want this early on at time of planning or soon thereafter, as close, as 07:10 Close as practical. Got It Right here. I got the control on the right. I got the bio 800 on the left. Uh, to be honest, to me, uh, not entirely different. 07:17 Although it looks like I got a little more depth on this one and, uh, I can maybe see, uh, a little bit more, uh, side hairs on that one. 07:24 I'm not sure I'm using that chunk correctly. Yep. We'll typically see much, much better root hair development as that planet evolves and you're starting to 07:30 see it. Right now, they're, they're so fine that they're hard to see, maybe even with the camera. But we're definitely, 07:34 if we were able to get in here and count the root hairs, we're gonna have more root hairs on the bio 800 applied. 07:39 We've got a much longer tap root here coming in. That's, uh, that's, that's thicker longer, more, more, more, uh, uh, established. 07:46 We typically see it come outta the ground a little bit sooner. Um, at the end of the day, what we see is, uh, better nutrient efficiency. 07:54 We see better yield, and we, and we, uh, tend to see, um, improved soil health. 07:59 Okay. While we're having our tailgate talk, Chad, tell us real quickly, what, what did you do on a control versus the bio 800? 08:04 Tell me the difference about application. Uh, these plants are what been the ground for one week? One week. Okay. One week. Not bad, not bad for a week. 08:12 So what we did with this is we dropped 'em both in the river and then we got 'em back out. So if the root hairs are kind of skewed, 08:18 some which way another that is Exactly. So these things real muddy when we took this in and what we've done is we went out here in the river and we just washed 'em off the best we can. 08:25 So we got the best results that we could possibly do on the scene right here. So this is real farm, real world, 08:32 Real tailgate stuff. Real Tailgate stuff. So Tell me about the application, this stuff that you plant this one week ago. And it looks like you got pretty, I mean, obviously the plants were doing fine. 08:39 Um, what, how did you use Bio 800? Yep. So we put this in the, in the furrow at a half a gallon rate. Okay. And that's where we was at on it. Um, 08:47 and the other side is it both had fertility in it and it's just a couple of gallon of fertility and then the bow, 08:54 and then we had just fertility on the other side. So we have four tanks on our planter. So two of the tanks got the bio 800 in it, and two of the tanks didn't. 09:03 So we're switching valves on each end of the field and we're running through the field with it. So we have a check out in the center, and then we have this, 09:10 or the bio eight hundreds in the center, and we have a check on either side of it. Okay. So what'll be in real interesting for me is, let's say in two weeks, 09:17 let's come down there when the soil conditions are a whole lot better. Yeah. We didn't get an inch of rain last rain last night. 09:21 And let's dig them up when we can really shake those roots. And two, you know, I think I need a little better shovel. I think my shovel was short when I dug, 09:28 so, all right. So anyway, come back. Stay tuned. I guess the exciting part is we're seeing some pretty good results and, uh, and you're gonna keep us and you got a good, a good trial going. 09:37 Another thing is, you know, when we ask, I ask the guys, we ask all the time, you know, where do we want the product at? You know, what do we wanna see? 09:42 We want irrigated ground, we want ice cream ground, we want monkey dirt. What we want, you know, what we want all the time. And you know, 09:47 we put this down here and this is this farm. And, and when I told myself I, I got some bad stuff for y'all. Is that what you really want? 09:53 And your guy's a hundred percent jumped on the junk. Yeah. You know, and this is, you know, what, what hell holds the world together. 09:58 Now I gotta make a living with it, you know? But from conditions that we usually have, this field has been in soybean 60 years. Mm-hmm. You know, 10:04 so there's some things going on that y'all are overcoming that I wanna see way past this root development part right here. Yeah. You know, 10:10 so there's some other things to come. We, I say we, two, three weeks out, we start digging roots. 10:14 We start looking at root balls in plant health and you know, obviously some other things. 10:19 And I'll tell you something else to look for when you're, when you're pulling, you know, for future samples and, and you're starting to see it here, 10:24 it it's this rizzo sheath. So it's the, if you can see here, see how the, the, the soil just kind of fell right off of that, that route here on the control. 10:30 But over here on the treated, the soil's sticking to it. Mm-hmm. And you'll see that consistently. And, 10:35 and that is basically there's a natural glues that the microbes can produce when they're in the right consortium around the roots and they're producing that glue 10:43 and holding the soil to the root that's gonna make that root healthier. It's gonna make all those fibers hairs much more functional and, and, 10:50 and give them a place to start to grow and spread. So keep your eye on, on that riser sheet to see if we can continue to, to see more and more. 10:56 By the way, Barrett, we will be keeping an eye on it. Cause that's what we do here at Extreme Mag. Trust me, we're gonna keep you honest. So stay tuned for more on the Bio 800, uh, 11:03 trial that Chad Henrys is doing right here. And you'll be hearing more from us about what we're doing. Exciting stuff. Stay tuned. Extreme mag.farm.

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