PGRS: Why? When? and What?

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21 Jun 2310 min 43 secPremium Content

Are you using PGRs? There are a lot of PGR's on the market, but do you know why you should use them, when to apply them and which type to use? Mark Coots from Teva Corporation has been working with PGRs for a long time. He answers Kevin's questions about PGRs.

So got an extreme ag report today. Um, we've been, uh, June right here and we got jackets on. It's kind of crazy, but we're getting a blessing from the Lord. We got a good shower of rain coming down here on the corn and soybeans this year seems to be a hot topic is PGRs, you know, we're talking, we're cytocons, oxens, jibs, you name it. And trying to get things put out when and where and what time. And, and quite frankly it's um, it, it is confusing. I know Chad, he uses your con uh, complex. I think it is a lot Uhhuh and um, some of the other guys has used it. Yep. I hadn't had the opportunity yet, so I look forward to trying some this year. I'm more interested in why should I try and what should I look for and when should I use it. Yeah. So first of all, let's just talk about PGS in general. So most of 'em are synthetically made. You know, oxygens, jibs, cytokines and I had a guy teach me this. You can kind of think about your hand. You got oxens, jibs, cytokinin, ethylene and then as sorbic acid. This is like your terminator hormone. This is ethylene. It's when you're under stress it's produced. But the main three are oxens, jibs and cytokinin, which most guys are talking about. Well I make oxens the thumb because it's kind of helps control these other two. So you really have to be worried about the balance of these things, you know, in the plant at all times. So when we're putting on PGRs and you're putting on a PGR that's just got cytokinin in it, well you may be affecting it because not being working as well cuz the oxens are now out of balance with what needs to go on. Mm-hmm So that's why I like that going to the more natural type of, uh, PGRs is to look at the thing. The thing about it, the plant will regulate its hormones if you let it. Yep. It needs to be stimulated to make more hormones and things like that. But when we're spraying on a hormone, we're basically spraying on a percent of GI relic acid or endo uric acid or you know, cytokinin. And most of the time those are synthetically made. So you have a shorter window of those, you know, working for you and stuff. So when you're spraying something that's natural on you have a longer window of it working. You don't have to worry about like with complex for instance, you're not spraying on ox oxygen, gyps and cytokine and you are spraying on something that's gonna stimulate the plant to produce more of those within itself. So, so this product is actually, when you say natural, I'm assuming you're bringing it, it is derived or made from other plants? Yeah, it is made from the yli plant, which is a desert plant out of Arizona and it's an extract extract out of that plant and stuff. So, you know, in that way you don't have to worry about, well hey I can put jibs on now cuz I want growth, but then I gotta switch to cytokines when I want reproduction With this kind of product, you can use it whether you're in growth or reproduction, you don't have to worry because the plant will know if it needs cytokines or it needs jibs. So it doesn't have to be told, told that it knows that. So that's why I like it. I mean we've done work with PGRs for many, many, many years in our company and we just couldn't get consistency out of 'em that we wanted. One year we would hit a home run and then three years in a row with nothing. And it's all to do with it being synthetically made and hitting that window and when you go to the natural ones, it just spreads that window open where you got a better chance of it doing its job for you. So as far as timing, what I want to, you know, most everybody's done planted now and uh, the, you know, the, your foliar herbicide applications taking place on corn and soybeans as we speak and other crops as well is can we still get a yield increase or reduce the stress of that plant to hopefully get a yield increase during these application windows or, and even thinking later on down the road when we go to apply fungicide, whether we're using a drone or a ground rig, is there a yield benefit to doing that or just simply a plant health stress reducing benefit or what should, what have you seen? I think you'll see both of them. So I think you got opportunity for both of those things. The thing you gotta remember about any of these hormones, they're the managers in your plant. You know, as I've told Kelly and all you guys, I mean basically it means it's telling the nutrients where to go. So you're always gonna get stress relief and um, you know, increased yield if you're taking the nutrients where they need to be at the proper timing they need to be. Mm-hmm So the more hormones we got in the plants taking care of that, the better opportunity we have. So yes. In those opportunities that we have times we have done work at spraying with post spraying. Now we've done a lot of work with reproduction at R three on soybeans, brown silk on corn, you know, putting the, you know, putting the PGR in there like complex in there and having very good results with it. So I think there still is an opportunity for doing it now I like getting it right off from the get-go, you know, and doing something myself. I like to do a little bit as we're going along, you know, in each one instead of all one Big deal, what kinda of rates are we talking about? We normally run four ounces on uh, corn Low Rate. Yeah. Four ounce and six ounce on soybean. So yeah, four to six ounces is all we're talking about. So Just can we double that and be safe? You can put as long as your pocketbook wants to go. So I mean, I will tell you we have guys that are going much, much higher rates than that on contest stuff just to see what would happen, what Are they seeing. Uh, I could show you some pictures of some roots that would just blow your mind where we have some extreme, you know, rates, I mean to the point that you gotta worry about whether you're getting a return on your money because we were just trying to see if we could kill the plant by putting too much on and stuff, you know, so, um, but yeah, we had some very good results end up yield wise with those kind of things. But it was economics and the things that we're doing with it. If you want to play for, for 10 acres on something like that. Okay. But, you know, economically on broad acres it doesn't make sense to do. Right. You know, so Yeah, we gotta make money. Yeah, We all, yeah, that's for sure. Cause I, I tell people all the time if you guys don't stay in business, neither do I. So there That's right. There's no need of, you know, selling you something that's not gonna work or do you any good, you know, Is there anything that a grower can look for or you know, when they're scouting and realize that this is a time I need to get this PGR in there? Well I think there's certain timings that you that, and you mentioned before a V4 to V five on corn is when it's determined in the Garth of the ear. So you wanna make sure that plant has got all its nutrients and their median managed properly right before that time. So we can get the gartha ear that, that HI hybrid is supposed to make, you know? And then when we're going at um, you know, fungicide time, we're looking like we're fixing going to ear field and stuff. So we wanna make again, make sure things are being managed properly so that we get all the nutrition and where it needs to go, you know, in the proper places and stuff. So Is there anything I don't want to put with it Right now far as a PGR goes? I think, you know, as you know, it mixes well with anything. Uh, we've not had any instances where we've had negative results out of it and stuff. I, I think the things that we normally pair, uh, the PGRs with would be fulvic acids, sugars and things like that. You know, because going back to the stress relief, to me we can put all kinds of stress relief products out there, but it all boils down to the energy of the plant. Okay? Mm-hmm. And the cheapest thing in my mind that you can always do for stress relief is just keep your sugar levels as high as possible Yeah. In that plant. Well and that's through health. Yeah. You know, you know, I love the add sugar ever pass. Right. And uh, which the health is kind of free sugar. Right. You know? That's Right. So you don't have to buy it, but That's exactly Right. But it starts with a foundation. But you know, again, at the timing of this video, our foundation's laid Yes. So we're, we gotta deal with the structure it's present and make it as stout and tough as we can. Yeah. You know, whatever you're using on a pgr, you know, if you are using one that is strictly cytokinin or GI acid, you do have to be worried about your timing with them. And, and there's some other good products out there. And I'm not saying that there's other pgs that are not good products other than complex by no means. But you do have to worry about the timings with those comparative to a product like complex. You know, other than that really that's, you know, what I've seen now, I know Caleb brought up something the other day on some, you know, weather issues where they have done it down there cuz they actually grew so fast and the weather w didn't support the growth, you know? Right. So I think there's things like that that we need to worry about From past experience. I know that you can get too much gib in a plant at the wrong time and cause some funky ear stuff Right. In reproduction. But with the natural product versus the synthetics that I'm more accustomed to using and trying to time when to use them, um, that stress that I don't have to deal with, I don't have to worry about that. I, if I can put the, the natural product on at V3 v4, come back at V 10 or maybe at VT or R two R three and not have to worry about really messing the plan up. That's right. Giving it mixed signals. That's Right. That's why I like the complexes because I, I hate to do one product for the whole year. Okay. And you can use it multiple times where the others, you have to be worried about, okay, this is growth oriented and this is reproductive oriented, you know, with complex you don't have it takes that stress out. Well I, I appreciate it. Cause this, I mean the PGR stuff for me is I'm learning it. Um, I've been using it for years and I feel kind of ignorant when I see that I wasn't that smart. Oh, Well, we're all learning, we're all learning all the time. That's for sure. We stop learning, we're going backwards. So I mean sci I mean cyan, we've been putting it in corn and using it on corn at different times for 15 years when, but I didn't know what I was doing. Yeah. I mean, I, I thought I, I had an idea, but you know, we just didn't know we're learning more every day. Sure. So I appreciate you coming all the way from Missouri out here to North Carolina and trying to help me understand more of what can help our bottom line and, and also that we can help y'all members so that if you have any questions on any of these products, mark's on the road all the time, um, if you just send us a email or whatever, if we don't understand the question, we're going to go straight to Mark. We're going to send that question to him. And, and any and anybody, if we, our, our whole group of partners is Bre and all of 'em help each other, you know, Mark May be helping, you know, nature's tomorrow, nature's may be helping you. Sure. You know, everybody's, all the, all of our companies work together so well to help make sure our members get the right answer to their questions. That's right. And I really appreciate that. Yeah. That's nice. Yep. Yep. Y'all stay safe. Thank You.

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