00:13 This episode of the Extreme Ag Show is presented by concept Agritech Cowboy is the game changer, getting it in 00:22 through the leaves and into the plant circulatory system. That's why this product is 00:26 so effective at delivering both calcium and boron to plants at critical times when they need it the most. 00:39 One thing farmers like to do when they're not farming is talk to other farmers. Today Matt and Lane Miles head to South Georgia 00:46 to meet a young rising star in the agronomy world. What's up Buddy? How's it going? 00:53 How are you? Doing well, how are you? I'm doing good. Welcome to Georgia. I'm Caleb Tro. I live here in Blakely, Georgia, 01:00 and I work as a crop consultant. So while my parents don't farm, uh, my mom did come from a farming background in northeast Iowa. 01:14 And when they moved down to Georgia, of course they did not have a farming operation. But of, even from a young age, it was something 01:24 that I knew that I wanted to do. Uh, while it may have skipped a generation, uh, it was something that I started when I was very young. 01:33 I always enjoyed watching plants grow. It was something that even when I was three years old, I would go out into the fields behind the house 01:42 and harvest by hand. Cotton come home. I would gin it and then I would plant the seeds in the garden and I would grow my own cotton 01:51 plants. But there are some Very basic rules that, uh, you must follow to get good compost. 01:56 When I was 12 years old, I was reading a article from a Martha Stewart magazine about composting, and I noticed some errors 02:04 that were made in describing some of the, uh, the biological processes. So I wrote a letter to the editor explaining some 02:11 of the errors and some changes that should be made. I got a letter back from Martha Stewart. She was saying that the article was written for amateurs 02:20 and maybe at 12 years old, I was just a little bit above an amateur. I may not have a college degree in agriculture, 02:32 but I haven't given up on the opportunity to learn all I can about it. And what they can't teach you in the classroom is passion. 02:42 I only went through the 10th grade. I took an early graduation. The professors there were going to present me 02:50 with several college scholarships. The day of my graduation, I didn't even show up because there was work in the fields to be done. 02:58 So when I was 17, I was offered the position to manage a deer and quail plantation here in southwest Georgia. 03:05 My passion for the soil grew because I realized that that was where our success came from. 03:11 So I was the first one to think about grid sampling and variable rate fertility, even on a food plot standpoint when I was 03:20 around 23 years old. So then I was able to take what I learned from there, start doing it on the farm that I was working 03:27 with at the time on the row crop side, even while I was working to manage the, uh, wildlife plantation. 03:34 So I started grid sampling our own farm and then started doing it for a couple other operations nearby 03:42 that was interested in the success we were having with it. And things really blew up from there. 03:49 And I share a lot of what I do on social media and guys have, uh, sent me messages asking me to help them with their operations even though 03:58 that they may be hundreds of miles away. So right now, I also work as a remote consultant on operations across over a half a dozen states. 04:09 Here in the southeastern United States, we will never find the top end of, uh, the science behind growing plants and agronomics. 04:19 So it's that passion of always seeing what else that we can learn. Uh, I'm someone who I love research. 04:27 I love that I love numbers and just, you know, always having that passion that drive to not be content with what, you know, always trying to, uh, 04:37 see what else you can learn to, uh, grow better crops. And then also with the consulting work that I do now, being able to increase the profitability 04:47 of the growers I work with. We were kind of a one shot wonder on peanuts, but trying to get back, trying to get him back in the mode 04:57 to maybe look at it because of rotation. And, uh, I know you're kind of the peanut guru, so we wanted to see what you had had going on down here. Kind 05:05 Of tell us, you know, so what are some of the things that we did do wrong? What can we do to make it easier 05:10 or why do we need to keep doing it? Or should I just tell dad just, you know, Hey look, quit talking about it. 05:15 But, uh, but no, but, but all seriously, I mean, we know what's good for us. Maybe we're here today to figure out why. 05:21 I was just gonna mention that. Uh, yeah, I've gotten the invitation to, uh, grow some peanuts over in Arkansas. 05:26 Yeah. But, uh, and, and maybe in lieu of that, I can, uh, show you a little bit what we have going on 05:31 and see if that may be something to, you know, think, think about as y'all consider putting peanuts back into the rotation. 05:38 Alright, well we got some peanuts right here. I'd love for y'all to come over to the field and then we can dig around a little bit 05:43 and see, see what else that we can talk about. As far as peanut growing, y'all come on. Amino Grow is an exciting new product put out 06:01 by concept Agritech. What we've seen is an increase in fruiting sites as well as branching. 06:08 And this has equated to yield Spot less. 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Well, this is our peanut fields here. 07:45 We got some trials going on, but, uh, I guess if you say this is your second time in a peanut field, we'll go pull up a few plants 07:52 and, uh, I'll tell you a little bit about how they grow it. Like soybeans, a lot 07:57 of it gets determined later in the season, but I will say for the start that we've had these, these are some really good looking peanuts. 08:03 In fact, these peanuts, I believe they're about 52, 53 days old. But I mean, for, for a field to look like this 08:11 after 50 some days of growth, they have really taken off. The first and only year we grew peanuts, 08:18 we grew a peanut year. That was the year. Yes. Uh, that was mostly a two two pot peanut. And they're used for peanut butter, I'm assuming. 08:26 Is that what y'all grow here? A lot of the reasons why I ask this is, you know, we grow rice and it's one thing to grow corn and beans 08:34 and you know, those are, you get oil outta the beans and you feed the corn to cattle. But, but what y'all are growing here, what we're growing 08:40 with rice, you can actually dry these peanuts and go parch 'em in your oven and eat 'em. Just like we can go grow, you know, we can mill our rice 08:47 and put it on on a plate. And that's kind of neat to me, you know, to be able to grow something that can go basically farm to table. 08:56 There's a lot of, they caught the fresh market for peanuts in this area. So, 09:02 But do you predominantly grow 'em for peanut butter or So in this area, the couple different industries are our four peanut butter. 09:08 There. There's a place in town where they actually, uh, make peanut butter and then they send to, uh, manufacturer, 09:15 say like Lance or Peter Pan. Yeah. Uh, some of those peanuts they come from right here as well as, uh, you got about an hour away, Marge. 09:24 So, you know, half the peanuts are grown in the country are are right here within a little over an hour's drive. So 09:29 Do you grow the peanuts for like, that goes in the peanut bag at the braise game? So those will actually be, uh, a much larger pod. 09:38 So, you know, some of, some of these pods that we were looking at before, they actually won't get a whole lot larger. 09:44 This one, this one is almost full size. Yeah. So, so it's, it is a small peanut, like if you get, if you get a jar of, you know, planters, roasted peanuts, 09:55 those, those are about the same size as what we're growing here. These are, these are span, uh, 10:00 these are runner peanuts here. You know, We've talked a lot about peanuts and there's something over there we 10:04 know a little bit more about. Yeah, let's come on. Let's go check it for, yeah, Caleb, so, you know, we started out walking down there. 10:11 It's flag after flag after flag and variety after variety. Tell us, tell us what you got going on. 10:17 So I'm a numbers guy. I like data. And then whatever we're doing to increase our management, like the things that we're talking about 10:24 with extreme magazines we can do to push the envelope, we're just trying to quantify that data to say, Hey, we add this to our program, we swap our hybrid to this, 10:33 it gives us this many more bushels. Whatever we're doing, we're just trying to answer the question, why are we doing it? 10:38 And what is it doing for us? So not only does that help us on our operation, but then it also helps the growers that I work with 10:45 to make sure the recommendations that I'm making to them are with their best interests at our heart. 10:50 Yeah. That's why we need him in Arkansas. Absolutely. That, that, I mean, just listen to him and we, we talked about it walking up here is, you know, 10:57 we're, we're standing on your farm where you're doing all the research, but you don't necessarily do this just for you. 11:05 Using our conditions, our soil, our farm really gives us a, a good look at some of the, some of these different things. 11:12 Being able to share them with not only growers that I work with, but especially the ones in the area 11:17 Too. And I don't think you realize the importance of what you're doing compared to the normal, to the normal guy. Because one of the, one of the things 11:26 that I think consulting consultants lack on is keeping that education. You know, whether it's going to a meeting 11:32 or a commodity classic or whatever, looking at new products, you're bringing 'em here, you're looking at 'em every day. 11:38 You just don't realize how important that is. What you're doing for your growers is, is phenomenal. We, we've got to be lifelong learner. 11:49 We don't wanna be satisfied with what we know today, when we can learn more tomorrow. And this is the best classroom environment 11:55 that we can have being here in the field with, with the plants that we're growing. And I've always said the plants will tell you all you need 12:02 to know about growing them, but we just have to be able to listen to what they're saying. So that's what we're out here doing. 12:08 We're listening to these plants, we're using our senses to evaluate what's going on and we're co seeing, you know, are they happy? 12:15 What are they lacking? Is there something that we can do to make things even better next year? 12:22 Yeah. What impresses me is you're not going to the research farm to learn. You are the research farm. 12:28 Just like any of the successful companies in, in, in, you know, the commercial industry. They have a budget for r and d. Well, we're no different. 12:36 This is a business. We're here to make money growing crop. So we need to do our part with our research on our farm 12:43 where we know exactly what went into these trials so we know what gives us the most return on our investment. 12:49 Well thanks for showing it to us. We've enjoyed today. Thanks for coming over. Adding Raytheon into your infra application 13:05 or even an over the top application round V three V four can do wonders in helping that plant 13:13 navigate tough soil conditions. As far as nutrient tie up is concerned, Control the toughest weeds with overlapping residuals. 13:21 Lock in the longest lasting control for your soybean fields authority brand herbicides such as authority, edge herbicide 13:28 and authority Supreme herbicide combine the industry's most effective group, 14 13:33 and 15 active ingredients for a clean start and long lasting residual control. 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So we're glad to work with her on some products here. Yeah. And so something that's a little unique about me is 15:01 I work for FMC as the company rep, but I also farm myself. And I've been growing peanuts since I was about this tall. 15:07 And those of us that grow peanuts are real proud of it. They're a unique crop, but they do really well for us. And I just have to clarify, the number one 15:16 question I get when I travel everywhere and tell 'em I'm a peanut farmer is don't peanuts grow on trees? 15:21 And you can clearly see here they do not grow on trees. This is the top foliage and then the nuts are formed underground. 15:28 Peanut may be one of the most high maintenance row crops to grow due to all the issues we have 15:33 during the season in peanuts. We get, um, two pretty bad diseases that we mainly focus on here in Georgia. 15:40 One is the leaf spot complex, so early and late leaf spot as well as a soil-borne disease called white mold. 15:47 And so we do have to spray about every two weeks to keep those diseases at bay to make it to the end of the season. 15:54 And one of my favorites, not just 'cause I do work for FMC, but is a product from FMC called Lucento 16:00 and it's really convenient and one application, I control both of those diseases in my field. 16:06 And we do have that out in a research trial on this field actually. So that's definitely something you gotta think about 16:14 with growing peanuts. This is some heavier ground here in this area of Georgia. So being able to get the peanuts out at harvest time can be 16:24 a struggle in this area. As you can see, uh, these peanuts are up on beds to assist with the harvest process. 16:30 And then, uh, it it, as you mentioned, it's a very labor intensive crop. So when you talk about, uh, uh, inverting 16:38 of peanuts at two miles an hour and coming back and picking 'em at one mile an hour and we're only doing, you know, six 16:44 or eight rows at a time here, it's definitely a crop that takes a lot of labor. It's not something that we're gonna go out and 16:50 and plant three quarters of the farm. And just because of the requirements, The little experience I've had with 'em, you know, I used 16:58 to think cotton was really intense, uh, crop to grow from, from the Midwest getting into the delta and the Southeast. 17:04 You know, corn and beans are relatively easy to grow. You're a couple trips across the corn plus your, you know, foyers or whatever. 17:11 And soybeans the same thing. You get into cotton, you know, we make eight, 10 insect trips. 17:16 You get into soy into peanuts, you're making that many just fungicide trips alone, not to mention insects, herbicides, and everything else. 17:24 So it's a, it's a very unique crop and you should be proud of growing them because it's, you know, it's something 17:29 that goes from the farm straight to the table. You know, peanuts are kind of like running a marathon. You got one step after the next, 17:35 but I believe they're the only row crop that actually require two separate, um, machines and processes to get 'em harvested 17:43 because you, you mentioned an inverter. So for people that aren't familiar with peanuts that we call 'em peanut diggers, 17:50 but basically they come through and actually dig up these plants, flip 'em over, let 'em dry in the sun, 17:57 and then we come with a peanut combine or peanut picker as we usually say, and it actually removes the pod, blows 'em up into a basket 18:04 and then they have to be dried after that. So it's like you get to the end after all the spraying and maintenance and watering you've done 18:12 and you got another big step to get to the end. But it's really satisfying to grow. And that's if you don't have to flip 'em, 18:18 if you don't have to invert 'em because of the rain, then you go To, to fluff 'em. That's 18:22 True. Yeah. Yeah. When you, when you have to do that, when, when you, uh, sometimes yeah, 18:26 You have three Trips. Yeah. When you, uh, plow 'em up and then you get a nice heavy rain later that day and they start sticking to the ground. 18:34 Yep. Ooh. And then by that time it's usually November, so we don't have as many, uh, good, good drying hours in a day and, and picking hours. So 18:43 Soil type is critical for growing peanuts too, that they love sand. And so the sandier you are, you can sometimes get away with 18:50 that, but we grow 'em on very heavy dirt. This field's pretty heavy. Yeah, actually too. And like you mentioned with harvest, I mean we don't know 18:57 what the crop looks like until we flip everything up on top of the ground. So while you know, the field looks good here, nice, 19:05 nice foliage, but we really don't know what we have until the, until harvest time. So it's all, yeah, it's always a surprise. Sometimes, 19:13 Like you said, you know, we're, we're on a soybean or corn plant or whatever. You want this big huge robust plant tall as you can get it 19:20 to a certain degree. You don't want that in peanut because all that's going on under the ground. 19:25 And the more fage you have, the harder it is to harvest. Right? So you want to limit that just 19:30 because a product goes out and you say, well this will make your plant better. That's not necessarily what you need in peanut. 19:35 You need to make the what's underneath the ground better Go long for season long foliar disease protection 19:50 that starts at plant active ingredient flu triol moves through your corn plants as they grow for inside out protection for roots to tassel 19:58 a single at plant application provides comparable performance in corn yield protection to that of vtr one foliar fungicides against diseases like gray leaf 20:07 spot, northern corn leaf blight, common rust and more. Some farmers I know swear by a name say they never operate anything else. 20:24 Well, here are a few names for my Fent 900 tractor fuel saver time maximizer game changer. 20:36 I like those names. It's no secret that drones are making their way into agriculture from spraying crops 21:29 to analyzing entire fields in minutes. Each new breakthrough brings farmers more data with greater efficiency and better profit. 21:39 So Caleb, I watch you on Facebook, watch your videos. I mean the different things you do on social media, you're one of the most cutting edge 21:46 consultants in my opinion. And, and I'm kind of, I guess now becoming an old guy. You know, you are an old guy. 21:52 I know I'm an old guy, you know, in, in this business. So what, out of all the things you do, what's the most cutting edge thing you're doing today? 21:59 One of the things that I've really started to, uh, use, utilize a lot more in my operation is drone technology. Alright. 22:06 So Caleb, you know, I've, I've got a drone at home and mine's not quite, I mean it, it's, it's a dj. I it's it's a nice drone 22:13 but it's don't have the technology that you have. Right. And I think you mentioned an important point is the technology with drones has come so far, 22:21 even the last couple years and there's a lot of agronomists and consultants in this area 22:25 that have used drone technology, uh, in even back five or more years ago. But then we're just basically going up in the field 22:34 and just looking to see how green the crop is. Yeah. So there's a lot more that, that we can look at today when it comes to the technology 22:42 and the imagery that we can have virtually in real time. So what I do is I have, uh, a Mavic three multispectral. 22:50 So not only are we able to get, we could call it a bird's eye view of the field, but it's also building multi-spectral map. 22:58 So like N-D-V-I-N-D-R-E, various different spectrums that we can measure and even quantify data based on, it's doing that at the same time. 23:09 So I take off and then I'll go out into the field, I'll go walk around, see what I can see, you know, pull back the canopy, 23:17 inspect the plants from top to bottom, but all along I got my helper in the sky getting another perspective. 23:25 And if we finish the field about the same time it lands here, I come back and then I can look at the imagery right here in the field 23:33 and then I can also go back to my computer, upload the images, take some different perspectives on the, the data that it's sending back to me 23:42 and then be able to forward that to the grower that I'm working with. Well that's as about as efficient as you as you get. 23:48 Absolutely. 'cause I've gotta stand there and do mine all manually. I can't go out in the field and do it if I'm flying 23:51 A drone. Yeah. So when we got a drone, I mean we got this drone between crashing it 23:55 and it is 5, 6, 7 years ago trying to figure out how to run it every 10 minutes, put a battery in it. I mean it was, we you lost interest in it 24:02 because it wasn't to the point that they are today. Exactly. Or you can walk in here, set a button and you can go do whatever you want. 24:08 If it gets through for you, that's okay. Right, right. It's coming back here. Yep. It's gonna, it's gonna land right at the center of the bed 24:13 of the truck that it takes off on. So you guys are no strangers to cotton there in the Delta region. 24:24 And we know that there's a lot of PGR applications that have to get made to control the height of the cotton, 24:30 but we can use a drone, a scouting drone that can build NDVI maps so we can see where the cotton needs a lot of PGRA lot of picks 24:40 to control the growth and areas of the field that might not need as much. Then we can go and build a variable rate application map. 24:48 Yeah. And then send that even to a spray drone and it can go out there and it can variable rate apply chemical on a field. 24:59 So there's situations where we need to go in there and maybe make a, a herbicide application in certain areas of the field. 25:06 And that's very easy for a drone to do because you think you got a brown plant and you got a green weed. 25:11 Yeah. It can pick that out from a thousand foot away. Yeah. No joke. That's pretty cool. 'cause I was thinking in my mind, you know, 25:18 like on the picks, if you did that on the picks, you've gotta do a separate application with an airplane, you know, so you, because you can't variable rate your, 25:26 your insecticides 'cause you've got the bugs, you know, just as bad as the other. But if you could do it with a drone and, and the 25:32 and the morning glory is in the corn. Yeah. You don't want those when you're harvesting corn by no means. 25:36 And that's a really cool idea. You know, there's so many things that can pay for 'em so fast. 25:43 So, so set up kind of like what you've got, you know, in a range. What what would we be investing in that, you know, 25:49 'cause you always, farmers always looking at ROI. Exactly. Exactly. And back in the day, you, it wasn't anything to spend 10, 25:56 20, even more thousand dollars on drones with multi-spectral cameras. But now we can get a really capable drone for, you know, 26:04 four to $6,000 and be in the field with everything that we need That'll pay for itself really, really quickly. 26:10 Absolutely. I mean it pay for itself probably in a year. 'cause you find something one bad, something 26:15 that you won't find walking, you know, it's taking all those steps for you times a thousand, You know, so like on a pivot in corn, 26:24 the corn is a perfect crop because when you have something that's 10, 12 foot tall, you can walk in it. 26:30 Sure, you can walk in the field, but you're only gonna see a few feet. That's why they call it a cor base. Exactly. 26:35 There's no way that we can get a good look at the entire field. And I've had situations where I take the drone off, uh, 26:43 it gets my mat back and I can see a ring where we have a nozzle plugged up on a pivot. Well that nozzle might cover five, six acres 26:53 by the time it goes all the way around. Well, if we give up water on five acres of horn in the middle of the year, 27:00 That's a thousand bucks. Exactly. So just simple things like that is what really can help pay for this kind of technology. 27:08 I can see it, I can see it being paid for in, in a year or less. Honestly. 27:17 It changes everything. So says Indiana corn grower Nathan Davis about innovative xw, LFR fungicide from FMC Xw brand fungicides are the first 27:26 and only at plant corn fungicides to provide unprecedented season long inside out foliar disease protection. 27:34 Precision is understanding the potential hidden within decoding the specific nutritional needs of your crop, maximizing every nutrient 27:48 and getting the most out of your yield. We break down the science in a way that works for your crops and for you apply less 27:59 and expect more with precision crop nutrition from agro liquid Calcium. The 28:19 biggest problem with calcium is, is it does not play well with just about everything phosphorus especially. 28:25 So you gotta be really careful of the calcium source that you use and what you're trying to mix it with. So, uh, a lot of times, you know, a foliar calcium, uh, 28:34 in my opinion probably needs to go out either by itself or choose a company that you can actually, you know, that it's gonna blend with. 28:41 Please jar test it guys. Uh, I've had, I've gone through this. Not a fun day. For me, Calcium is just so important on many, 28:50 many different aspects, whether it's keeping the, uh, you know, the strength and the stem, the cell walls and, uh, managing the water through it. 29:00 And more so for us in the Carolina, especially as Piedmont area is our soils Calcium in a, in a, in a plant's life, it adds 29:14 to cell wall, you know, cell structure. It adds, you know, some strength, some durability, right? I'm out here in my environment, 29:21 my calcium levels in my soil are very low and I'm magnesium highs right on my base saturations. So the problem with calcium is, is it's such a a, it's, 29:31 it's such a heavy charge. It basically will tie up a lot of every other thing in in your soul, 29:38 In our clay souls that our magnesium is very high on. We have high, naturally high mag soils and our calcium is low. 29:51 And what you find is the ground gets very, very hard when you get that scenario. And it's like Briggs 29:59 Calcium adds porosity to your soil. So I've got more reaction from calcium by adding it to my soil than adding it to my plant. 30:08 Now when my plants are deficient in calcium, I can add foliar fertility with calcium. Um, and it does help, um, it's kind of a bandaid. 30:17 It's not, it's, I'm not gonna say it's a bandaid for a hatchet wound, but it helps move the needle a little bit. 30:23 But calcium and soil adds the porosity in the soil. And it will actually not only let more water flow, more filtration of water go in it, 30:32 it can actually hold onto more water and, and help you so you don't dry out so easy. This basically when that calcium 30:49 to mag ratio gets inverted in your mag tire than your calcium, your soles are extremely tight and the water runs off more than it does soaking up when you 30:59 get these big rains. So it's very essential to understand what your calcium level and your magnesium level of your soil is so that you can get 31:11 that corrected because it's very important in the plant. But there's so many things more to calcium 31:17 that calcium helps do. And corn and soybeans both, if you can feed it into the soil, you can actually change your soil suck structure. 31:24 So how I look at it is two different ways. As a farmer, I will need to feed it from the bottom and I'm gonna try to get some of it pulled up 31:30 through the roots, up through the plants. That's how casting wants to move. And then I try to accommodate the top 31:35 and try to put a little foliar nutrition of cow and try to meet everybody halfway. So I'm trying to build a better structure. 31:43 I'm not saying I'm trying 'em out here on the east coast, I'm not trying to build a hurricane proof plant, 31:47 but it does definitely help, especially in soybeans where we have a, a tremendous amount of branching and there's branches break off. 31:55 This adds some structure to that plant. So it's been a big ch game changer in some of the high yielded soybeans that I've had. 32:02 And it's been a big game changer in my high yielded corn that We use a lot of gypsum in the soil to build 32:14 that calcium level as well as sulfur. And then we use what's cal acidic lime that we get right off the Atlantic Ocean 32:22 and, uh, South Carolina at Myrtle Beach, we get that lime and it's, it's this really good high calcium source. 32:30 Um, it helps build the pH of the soil up, which is very important. We always wanna maintain a 6.5 pH 32:38 that makes all nutrients available the most available that you can get in that 6.5 range. So don't forget your calcium, look after your soil first. 32:51 If you're already high in calcium in your soils, then your tissue samples will show you if you're deficient with it and your plants 33:07 On the next extreme ag show. Wheat season for us is probably the busiest time of year. It's so you're trying to hurry up, get the wheat drop out, 33:15 and then you're gonna turn right around and you're gonna plant double crop beans behind it. Days are weighing on you, time's weighing on you 33:22 every minute that you're down, every hour that you're down. Like it's a loss of money all the time.