Farming Podcast | Yield Management in Extreme Conditions

00:00:00 Adjustments to succeed in a wet cool spring. What are you doing? What should you be doing? And what will you do throughout the rest of the season 00:00:07 to yield a good harvest, even despite a bad spring? That's what we're talking about in this episode of extreme Ag Cutting the curve. 00:00:14 It's extreme ag cutting the curve podcast, cutting your learning curve, and improving your farming operation every week. 00:00:21 This episode of The Cutting the Curve podcast is powered by Nature's bio kay technology delivering enhanced nutrient 00:00:28 cycling, greater plant health, and elevated stress mitigation leading to increased crop yields. 00:00:33 Visit nature's dot com. And now let's get ready to learn with your host, Damien Mason. 00:00:40 Hey there. Welcome to another fantastic episode of Extreme Ice Cutting the curve. I got a good one for you today because you know what? 00:00:44 It's very pertinent to what's going on in much of the growing regions of the United States of America. Right now, I'm talking to you 00:00:50 from my farm in Northern Indiana. It is cold and wet. We've been 15 to 20 degrees off of our average, not 00:00:56 to mention then the cloud cover when it's cloudy all day. When you don't have the temperature, 00:01:01 then you don't have the right conditions for ideal spring planting and moving into what happens after spring planting. 00:01:07 This is not happening just here. It's also happening in Western Tennessee where my guest, Johnny Verell 00:01:12 and Brian Adams, volunteer Ag services are coming at you. That's extreme Ag. Johnny Verell 00:01:17 and Volunteer Ag Services, Brian Adams agronomy guy, and one of my all time favorite dudes. Here's the thing, this is not just a condition in the 00:01:24 Eastern Corn Belt where I am. It's happening a lot of places. Our friend Matt Miles dealing with unprecedented amounts 00:01:29 of rain down there in the delta. The difference is their stuff's already planted. Many regions we're still talking about even prevent plant. 00:01:35 Just read an article. Uh, you know, much of Ohio is half planted here going into June, and are they gonna take prevent plant? 00:01:43 Are they gonna make adjustments? You've got the crop insurance condi to deal with. You've got the soil conditions, you've got the 00:01:48 ongoing weather forecast. We can't control the weather, but what can we do? So, explain the conditions you're dealing with, John 00:01:53 and Rell, and then I wanna talk about what you're doing to salvage and make a better situation. 00:01:58 Yeah, so for us, it's, it's probably the wettest, uh, spring I've ever seen in my life. And the temperatures are probably gonna rank up there 00:02:06 as the coolest temperatures that we've seen. And you package those two together, it makes it hard. And most of the US or a lot 00:02:11 of the US is seeing the same thing as far as temperatures. But we started planting corn, uh, the last 10 days of March. 00:02:19 We lost that corn to a 14 inch rain event that we had in, you know, over about a 48 hour period there. 00:02:24 We got hit pretty hard. Uh, we replanted that. We actually replanted some of it again. Uh, and that's where we're at now. 00:02:31 You know, it's just, it's been a challenge all year just trying to get, get in and get things planted 00:02:35 because, uh, I guess in the last two weeks, uh, we, we've been in the field one day in two weeks, I guess that was day one. 00:02:43 We've been outta the field for two weeks straight now, and it's just, it's hard to get in. We were out, we were in the field this morning. 00:02:49 Me and Brian were looking at some soybeans that, that need a little bit of spraying done. Not only it, it's still too muddy to do that. 00:02:55 So it's, it's changed us up. It's actually us. It's delayed our whole year as far as our crop size mature as it should be. 00:03:02 Mm-hmm. But, you know, we still got corn here. It is almost June 1st, and we still have corn that needs to be replanted 00:03:09 in a field that has corn. That's probably, uh, v seven feet, V eight right now. So very unusual. 00:03:15 But it, it is the cars we've been dealt and it's gonna change how we manage that crop throughout the rest of this year. 00:03:20 There's an economic and an agronomic component to it. By the way, um, Brian, I, an old farm person told me a long time ago, you plant corn, 00:03:29 sometimes you replant corn if you replant a third. If you, if you planted a third time, you're just, you're just wasting your, 00:03:36 you're just wasting your effort and your money. Um, kinda like, since you're a shooting guy and a hunting guy, they told me same kind of wisdom. 00:03:43 They told me once you missed the bird on the first pole of the trigger, that means you're behind it. You pull it the second time, 00:03:48 that means you're probably getting on it. If you pull the third time, it's 'cause you're p****d off. Is that how planting corn the third time goes, 00:03:53 are you really going actually justify planting corn a third time? Uh, You read my assessment, by the way, Brian, 00:04:00 about when you pull the trigger the third time at a missed bird, you're never gonna hit it. You're just p****d off. 00:04:05 Uh, you're p****d off, but you're also a bad shot if you miss three times. That's, that's where I would go with that. 00:04:11 But planting the corn a third time, 80 plus percent of the time, uh, yeah, it's probably outta spite some revenge planning. 00:04:21 Uh, just, you know, trying to prove a point against, uh, against whatever you're going against really. 00:04:26 But there were some that, uh, and Johnny mentioned, we've got some that was planted three times that, that we still got planted 00:04:32 for the third time in the month of April. Um, and, and for us down here, somewhere between the 10th and 20th of May is, is kind of when we end things. 00:04:40 And um, you know, I still feel like we got some of it in, in a good window on that third planting. 00:04:46 Um, but I would say by and large, normal spring for us, by the time you get that third one in, uh, yeah. 00:04:54 Yeah, you're just kind of doing it out of spite to eat acres or to fill contracts and, and, 00:04:59 And we're far enough south Damien that, you know, we can plant corn through June 20th and still still reach maturity, you know, 00:05:07 sometime first part of October. So we're far enough staff, normally we can get heat, but a year, like this year, if it stays cool for two 00:05:14 or three more weeks there, we will run outta heat just like everybody else. It's really, we've never seen it like this. 00:05:20 So it's pretty, it's a whole new, uh, area for us to be trying to figure out how to navigate through. Yeah, Yeah. The truth is, you, you're 00:05:26 not, you're not up against, uh, hard frost that are gonna change your, uh, your ending game on corn, et cetera. 00:05:32 But let's go back to then the adjustments you make. So let's talk about the cropping plan. That was number two on my list anyhow. 00:05:37 We've already talked about conditions. And again, this is happening a lot of places, you know, we've got, we've all got farm friends in different parts 00:05:42 of the country that are dealing with this exact same thing. Maybe it's not as cool, maybe it's not 00:05:46 as wet, maybe it's more wet. Uh, you know, that whole Ohio Valley where you are and, and south of where you are, uh, 00:05:51 much more moisture than we're talking about. But like, where I am, it, it wasn't so much the quantity of rain is the fact that the moisture has just stayed around 00:06:00 and the soil will not get warm. Uh, you know, we've got corn that's been in the ground for two and a half weeks 00:06:05 and it's just now poking through to ground. And, you know, that's more of a, that's more of what you talk about when you plant in April. 00:06:11 Right. Okay. This stuff's gonna sit in the ground for three weeks before it emerges. And we're recording this on May 30th, 00:06:18 so it's, it's a real different thing. So the adjustment you made on cropping, uh, did you start making decisions about switching acres 00:06:29 during this last two, three weeks? Yeah, I mean, for us, you know, we got some ground that still needs to be replanted in corn. 00:06:36 Uh, and basically if we can't get in there in the next week, we'll probably decide to do something different. 00:06:41 You know, and it's, it is just when it's too late, too late, you know, and we're just not, we're used to able 00:06:47 to plant our corn crop and everything pretty much be the same growth stage. Mm-hmm. I think that's the 00:06:52 biggest thing we gotta figure out. This year we're gonna be fungicide corn for a month. We're usually going in there in a, 00:06:57 you know, in a week doing it. And our timing of our late season nitrogen that we're gonna be putting out, all 00:07:01 that stuff's gonna be kind of spread out now too. And it, I mean, at some point we're missing to draw the line. 00:07:06 I guess it's coming up pretty soon. Basically the ground's just not drying out. It's, it's not the plant date that bothers us, 00:07:11 it's just the, the opportunity to actually go back in and replant is gonna be what's gonna give us the issue. When water's standing on ground for two weeks straight. 00:07:18 Literally, water's still, 'cause we've been getting rain every few days. Some grounds probably had a rain in 00:07:23 10 days, probably seven days. And then we don't have any sunlight and we have no wind. Mm-hmm. It's the, it is the drut I've ever seen. 00:07:30 It's like a February, January, February feeling around here more than it is, you know, in May, Brian, you and I both are sometimes a DHD, 00:07:37 I'm also seasonal, uh, seasonal depression guy. Uh, you go 14 days without seeing the sun. I start to get really, really in a 00:07:43 bad way. Is it happening to you? Yeah, I'm on, uh, I'm on my antidepressants pretty good at this point. Uh, as we roll into May, you know, you mentioned the, 00:07:52 the cool weather and the rain. Just for, for reference for everybody that'll, that'll be watching this podcast. 00:07:58 We're there, we're in, we're a 55 to 60 inch annual rainfall. Um, we're at, we were at 45 2 weeks ago, 00:08:06 10 days, two weeks ago. Um, you know, hopefully we're gonna be well above average this year. 00:08:11 Uh, hopefully we don't, we don't end the year with 10 more inches of rain. Mm-hmm. Um, and then on top of that, it's the end of May. 00:08:18 Right now, you said today is May 30th. Uh, Johnny and I were out recording videos this morning. I've been wearing my shorts 00:08:24 and my, my t-shirt trying to wheel my way into summer. Uh, but it was 60 degrees this morning. It was quite chilly sitting out there making videos. 00:08:32 Um, so it is, it is tough, man. It's like Johnny said, it's probably one of the wettest that I remember and I was, that's saying a lot 00:08:40 because last May sucked too, but this way was worse. Um, and I didn't really know that that was possible. Um, in our area, 00:08:48 and for guys here south, uh, cotton acres are gonna be way down again from intentions. Uh, we've got some cotton we've planted at field day. 00:08:58 Um, cotton has gone backwards. Uh, cotton's one of the few crops, in my opinion, all of 'em will go backwards to an extent. 00:09:05 Cotton is ready to go backwards. You're just trying to stop it from doing it, basically. Uh, but it's been awful. Ready 00:09:12 To go backwards. Meaning what? 00:09:13.565 --> 00:09:14.245 Uh, die. Die. 00:09:16 I mean, like, like all jokes aside, uh, the adage down here is cotton comes up looking for a reason to die. 00:09:23 Our job is to prevent that from happening. But, uh, coming up, making a stand, you know, cotton really needs to heat more so than anything. 00:09:30 Um, you know, cotton's a perennial grown as an annual, uh, grown and managed as an annual. 00:09:36 Uh, and, and we have to force it, force it mature with, with PG and things like that. Um, and so anything 00:09:42 that's gonna get replanted at this point, we're, we're basically at the end of that window too. Uh, because we do worry about getting immature 00:09:47 before the first frost sometime in October, um, down here in the south. And, and so we'll manage it with pgr trying 00:09:54 to shorten it up, trying to, to mature it a little bit earlier than we normally would. Um, so there'll be more money spent on that. 00:10:00 Uh, we'll be a little more aggressive with that. But when cotton comes up, it needs the heat. It's getting pounded with thrifts, right? 00:10:07 Cotton doesn't have a lot of bigger coming out of the ground. Um, that's gone away a lot in the last 20 years, as, 00:10:12 as yields have increased. Um, ths are slowing it down, cooler weather's slowing it down. Um, seedling diseases from all this cool wet, 00:10:20 cloudy weather, um, cotton is, is really bad to, to come up, start out healthy and then, you know, 00:10:28 contract basically poste seal disease. And, and when I say go backwards, I'm talking about losing vigor, everything else hitting it. 00:10:35 Continental die stands reduced to, to a point that you're at a detriment and you don't have enough stand out there 00:10:41 really to make the yield you need. Johnny, I have a question. The first episode of cutting the curve that I did 00:10:47 with you was about three years ago. And we talked about you made the switch away from cotton. Is it your life? This make you because cotton needs heat? 00:10:56 You're, are you, are you saying, man, I'm, I'm, I'm not happy with the way things are shaping up this spring, but at least I don't have cotton. 00:11:03 Yeah, I mean, you hate it for everybody else that, that wants to raise cotton because it, it really does flip their world upside down 00:11:09 when they can't get it in the ground. 'cause they might not have the hardest equipment to switch a hundred percent to green that year. 00:11:14 And I mean, there's a lot of people that got a lot of cotton planted, probably half to two thirds of what they wanted. 00:11:19 And some of that's gonna make it, some of it might not. And me and Brian were talking this morning, some of the cotton you drive by is 00:11:25 the prettiest cotton you've ever seen. And some of the cotton you drive by, you don't know where it went. 00:11:28 Mm-hmm. Like, it literally went backwards. And it, it does, it changes everything that you're doing. And, you know, we, we can start talking about anything else, 00:11:35 but it's, uh, from a fertility standpoint on our grain crops, I mean, Damien, what have we lost all the rainfall, you know, where we put out nutrients up front, you know, 00:11:44 we're gonna start pulling sap tissues, um, Monday. So two or three days we're gonna start pulling sap tissue samples, try and get a game plan of what we want 00:11:51 to change up that we're not used to having to manage this time of year, but just to make sure right. If we ever get the sunlight 00:11:56 and stuff that we got the nutrients there for that crop. Yeah. That's what I wanna go to next is about then the, 00:12:01 the nutrients and the applications and also that that wet soil, which changes everything because you're talking about aeration, et cetera. 00:12:06 I wanna get into that before do that. 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You might also go 00:12:39 and check out the recordings that we did at Rell Farms where I climbed up onto the grain dryer and we shot cool videos there and go and check that out 00:12:48 because Johnny Verell and Brian Adams, uh, did a number of videos about the Superior grain, uh, equipment that's on their farm. 00:12:55 So anyway, go check out superior bins.com having ground that has water on it for two weeks. Then all of a sudden you've got 00:13:05 oxygenation, aeration issues. You've got almost like it kills a bunch of the, uh, the biology that's there. 00:13:12 You guys are the agronomy people, not me. I'm just throwing it out there. Now you're talking about not just getting back in there and salvaging that field. 00:13:20 You're almost salvaging the life in that field for from that point forward. Any of the stuff that you applied, 00:13:26 then it's gonna be leached out. I mean, there's a whole bunch of considerations when it stays this wet. 00:13:32 Yeah, it is. And I think one thing we're gonna be doing by pulling some tissue samples, some SAP test tissue or SAP samples for sure, 00:13:39 is making sure we understand really what is going on. 'cause we might think it's a nutrient deficiency and it could be something else. 00:13:45 Um, but we're, I've never owned a set of, uh, you know, easy drops or wide drops or anything like that. Actually got some coming because we're predicting back 00:13:55 to run some late season applications of different nutrients to get the crop back in check if it can ever make the turn 00:14:01 and get the sun out to make it really, really get back in high gear. 'cause we know there's some deficiencies out there 00:14:07 and a lot of 'em just from excess, you know, excess rainfall, you know, we got different root structures of what we're used to right now. 00:14:13 Just different things like that. It's, it's definitely an interesting year for us, but I think everything can turn 00:14:18 and we can still have a good crop. We just need a little time little heat. Brian does all that stuff that you put out there. 00:14:23 I mean, is it to where you've gotta, and granted volunteer ag services sells crop input, so kaching, kaching, you're selling some more, 00:14:31 but a bunch of it, it, it is designed to be there, applied the plant, used it at this particular growth 00:14:38 stage of that plant. You, you knock this all back by 30 days with 11 inches of rain or whatever it should be. 00:14:47 It changes the complexion and the app and the usability and efficacy of all that stuff. Yeah, it, it does. 00:14:55 And and one of the things that, you know, you go back that, that lack of oxygenation, uh, the, 00:15:02 the complete saturation of the soils. Um, you try your best, you do everything you can to mitigate and protect against nutrient loss. 00:15:10 Anything you can to, to promote nutrient use, efficiency, uh, to stop type, stop binding. 00:15:16 Um, and I think by and large, um, as time goes on and knowledge gets better, we do a really good job of that. Um, but, but you look, when, when you're that wet, 00:15:26 it doesn't really matter what's going on. Um, any of these plants are struggling at that point to, uh, to take up, uh, any sort of nutrients, 00:15:36 whether they be macros or whether they be macros. But, uh, a lot of what, a lot of what you're dealing with now for us in particular is, um, some of the, 00:15:44 the micros and a lot of phosphorus tie up. Um, so we make sure that we're trying to, to pay attention to that. 00:15:51 Um, in particular, uh, stopping all that from, from getting tied up getting into the plant. Uh, as we move later into the season, uh, 00:15:59 once this soil starts to dry out, we get back to what I would call more of a, a normal nutrient uptake curve. Uh, we're certainly behind the game like Johnny said. 00:16:09 And and part of that is, is, uh, he mentioned buying the easy drops. Um, doing that just to have the flexibility 00:16:16 of later application because we're behind the eight ball. We're not used to being here. 00:16:20 Uh, not from a timing standpoint, not to this magnitude. I don't, Johnny, we're never on time, right? 00:16:26 Like when we want to be, we try our best, but we we are legitimately behind now. And there, there's really no other way 00:16:32 to catch up, uh, for some of this. Do you, when do you make the decision to not, I mean, I'm already hearing my guys up here say, 00:16:39 if we get another couple of showers, we're gonna take prevent plant on some of this. I don't know how much that happens in your area. 00:16:45 What, when do you start looking at those decisions and, and you don't really want to be a crop insurance farmer, but it's, it's business. 00:16:54 Well, it's business, right? Well, It, it is and, and I would say that, uh, we're looking at it right now. We're getting to the end of that window for cotton. 00:17:02 Um, you know, if you've got the right insurance coverage down here, particularly on cotton, you can draw a, 00:17:07 you draw a pretty good payment per acre. Um, and what I would say is by the time you pay landlords, you spend some money on herbicide 00:17:15 to help keep that field clean. Uh, if you're truly gonna leave it foul for next year, um, you're looking at doing that right now 00:17:22 because look at this depressed commodity market. I don't care if it's corn, cotton or soybeans, none of it. I I think we can all agree none of it really looks great. 00:17:30 No. Um, there's an opportunity to, to put a little money in your pocket, uh, not stand to lose very much on that. 00:17:36 Uh, and the other thing I would say is the consideration here is always to come in and plant beans 00:17:41 after, you know, there's a day that you can come in and plant beans after taking PPE on another crop. The problem with that is, is you're gonna reset your base 00:17:49 or, or you're gonna, you're gonna pull your base down generally on any bean crop that's planted this late this year, um, 00:17:55 where you've taken pp. So there's A lot you mean with the united, so all of a sudden re farms has 00:17:59 to go into the United States Department of Agriculture Office and report yields of, uh, what it looked like half. 00:18:05 And then that change the, the, the, the base yield on those acres is that we're talking about, which then affects, uh, insurability 00:18:12 and insurance rates. I'm Sorry. It can just, it's a triple effect. 00:18:15.005 --> 00:18:15.365 00:18:15 It can affect everything when you do that, you know, and you, you, you could take a zero as a yield on some of it too when you pp. 00:18:21 So you just gotta be careful. And a lot of farmers are out there weighing their options right now trying to figure out which way to go. 00:18:27 Nobody wants to leave it out. 'cause you got all the weeds and everything else you gotta deal with. 00:18:31 I mean, the, the key to farming is the plant. But this year is probably the first year in a long time. I've heard people talk about prevent plant like they have, 00:18:37 especially the last five, 10 days. Yeah, we, we hear it a little bit more up here about, uh, so every five to 10 years, obviously it's a five years 00:18:46 because of the moisture. But, uh, then that brings up about the marketing. Um, I, it hasn't happened yet, I don't think. 00:18:52 I'm not a grain markets expert. There's people that stare at their computer all day looking at the 2 cent moves in the soybean complex. 00:18:59 But this here, we're recording this on May 30th and we're talking about there being problems. Does that mean it's time to sell 00:19:06 because we're gonna start climbing in a crisis? Or are you waiting less, more blood in the water? What are you looking for? 00:19:12 Waiting for more time? I, I, I mean I am just see what happens. You know, it's, I think we, 00:19:18 everybody's got a decent marketing plan in place or should have one in place that, that works off of insurance and marketing all built in together. 00:19:24 But you know, time will tell. Everybody's been talking about this being a dry year. I guess we could have the wet spring on record, turn off hot 00:19:31 and dry June and July and burn up. I think you just did a podcast the other day with Todd. Right? Same thing. It's really setting itself up that way 00:19:37 for here if everything does work out like they were saying. So, And it is a tough thing no matter where you are. 00:19:42 That was Todd Kimbrel, one of our extreme ag guys who's about 70 miles south of Dallas. He almost lost a crop 00:19:47 to drought in the wettest year on record. But because all the moisture came, uh, you know, between January 1st and sometime in April 00:19:54 and then it came again starting in, uh, I dunno, September. So it just doesn't do any. 00:19:59 And we, we've seen that as well, um, 30 days from now. All right. We're recording this at the end of June. What things are you already thinking I'm gonna be doing two 00:20:08 weeks from now and 30 days from now because of, uh, this, this deal we're fighting? Yeah, so for us, I mean in the next two weeks we'll be 00:20:18 putting out a V 10 fungicide. We'll probably be putting out some type of nutrients at V 10 also. And 00:20:23 You're gonna be doing that over AC and then you might have interceded corn acres. You might have a newly germinated plant next 00:20:30 to a V 10 plant. And yeah, There's gonna be sections. I've got the last corn I planted is this 00:20:34 in some creek bottom ground. And I've got one end of the field. I'm keeping the other end of the field. 00:20:38 I'm gonna have to replant still. So yeah, it's gonna, it's gonna make it a challenge, but you know, it'll make it a challenge all the way through. 00:20:43 But that's our plan right now is on everything that's in good shape. It's probably put out vtm fungicide and then we watch it. 00:20:49 And usually around the 4th of July is when we put out a, you know, a, uh, a taal fungicide shot, you know, you know, 00:20:56 brown silk somewhere in there, just depending on the year this year it might be July 15th with the heat we have. 00:21:00 So we'll just see. But I mean, that's our plan right now to stick to what we had in place to stick to our budget we had. 00:21:05 And it's just going to delay everything just a little bit. Uh, you're pretty much no-till does tillage end up coming 00:21:12 back into play in a year like this because you've gotta destroy some of the crop that wasn't a field or it might be 00:21:18 because of a drainage reason. Does all of a sudden equipment that you don't normally use get pulled outta the 00:21:23 shed any year like this? Yeah. And then you remember why you hated conventional till? 00:21:28 'cause you work on plow points and bearings every morning, but, but we've had to do it something this year 00:21:32 to drive some ground back out or to kill a crop to start over. Um, it's, it's not what you want to do. 00:21:37 But, um, Brian May have mentioned earlier, oxygen in the ground is a major issue right now. And that's one of the easiest ways to fix it, 00:21:44 especially in some of this creek bottom ground that really just doesn't dry out. So it Doesn't so till tillage to introduce oxygen. 00:21:51 But then also you introduce another pass, uh, possible compaction man hours, which are gonna be short. 'cause when you finally are able to roll, 00:21:58 it's gonna be rolling pretty aggressively. So it, it is not like, it's not like, oh yeah, we'll we'll just do this. 00:22:06 It adds three more things to that. Yeah. And that just the extra cost. Like I said this, uh, for us it's a lot better 00:22:13 to run some form of no-till, minimum till than it is conventional. But it is what it is this year on, on certain acres. 00:22:19 It's, it's gonna be a necessity, that's for sure. Brian Agronomically, I get, um, I get down the road here and it's, you know, July, August, whatever late season 00:22:27 by the time that your field day is, which by the way, I should make sure I tell everybody. If you are listening to this, 00:22:31 you should be putting the field days for extreme ag on your calendar. The one that's gonna be held in Jackson, Tennessee at 00:22:37 Rell Farms in conjunction with our friends of volunteer Ag services. Brian is going to be, I'm looking at my calendar on 00:22:43 August 5th that kicks off in the morning on August 5th. It's a fantastic event. Tell us what to expect at your field day. 00:22:49 And then also I wanna talk to you about what we're gonna be able to show because of this kind of, you, you, 00:22:53 you are very good about saying, you know, warts and all. Look at it last year, corn that looked like 00:23:01 it got driven over, hit by a hailstorm and then also somebody went out and beat it with a machete and you still had it in your field day. 00:23:08 It was like the, the no nitrogen one or something as it was anyway. So you're gonna show some of the stuff at your field day 00:23:14 that is like, uh, yep, here's what happens when you get 16 inches of rain in May. Yeah. So, um, really no way around 00:23:23 that given all the rain we have. But, uh, yeah, so probably north of 500 replicated plots on location 00:23:34 of this field there across corn, cotton, and soybeans, all three. Um, once we get the cotton replanted next week, 00:23:40 if we get it replanted, um, we'll have all that there. A lot of what we do is, uh, pretty much all that we do. And, and don't get me wrong, there's the hybrid 00:23:48 and variety trials and things like that for, uh, our customers here at Ball Ag. Um, we put every company together, uh, as a showcase for 00:23:56 that as opposed to any one company's, um, you know, entire lineup we put together everything we're selling and the new stuff coming down the pipeline. 00:24:04 Uh, everything is generally very agronomically based. ROI based. We try to make people, um, you know, understand, hey, at any given point in a plant's life, we need 00:24:14 to affect A, B, or C. Here's why we need to affect it. Here's how we're gonna affect it with, with what we're showing you here, uh, 00:24:21 and what the overall net result of that is. Um, and you know, if it sucks, it sucks, right? I mean, we, we'll tell you 00:24:27 what does work we'll tell you what doesn't work. Um, it, it's a good learning opportunity, uh, for us Tuesday, 00:24:33 August 5th. It's an amazing opportunity. We kick off in the morning and it's usually hot. What time we starting? 00:24:39 Eight o'clock. Eight o'clock on August 5th, then the evening before. Yep. Yeah, we'll have, uh, well it's a dinner the evening 00:24:48 before for sponsors and people like that too. Yeah. And then the day of on August 5th, we'll do our thing. Yeah, we might 00:24:55 Let you come to the dinner, Damien, we're not sure yet. I'll be there. I'll be there. Maybe I'll just go to a Chick-fil-A. 00:25:00 I don't know. I mean, I enjoy working. And then the other thing is, you can watch me, I'll be there working, I'll be shooting videos Last year, 00:25:06 probably one of the best video setups I've ever done in my life. I think we were in the cotton field 00:25:11 and it was gonna be a quick 92nd tutorial and I was just into it. And Temple Roads, who's on his phone all the time 00:25:19 and has issues, didn't have his damn phone turned off and started making Donald Duck quacking noises. If I'd have had some kind of a blunt instrument in my hands, 00:25:27 I would've hit him in the head with it until he was laying in that cotton field. I'm just saying, if you come there, 00:25:32 you might see some of these things. The heat gets to me, temple gets to me. Anyway. That's Ferrel's buddy Temple. He's, he's amazing. 00:25:41 He's amazing. He's a challenge, but he's amazing. He's our special kid. All right. One of a kind. I gotta uh, what'd you say? 00:25:50 He's one of a kind temple. Oh yeah. Yeah. People use the word unique and they really shouldn't. 00:25:55 'cause it means there is no comparison. I think he's unique. Um, all right about that field day, 00:26:01 you're gonna come and see a whole bunch of stuff. August 5th, put in your calendar. Also put on the other ones. 00:26:05 If you are listening to this and you can make it June 12th, we're gonna be at Miles Farms in McGee, Arkansas. 00:26:09 That's the same thing. Starts eight in the morning. June 26th, we're going to be at Garrett's in northwest Iowa. That's an afternoon starts at 3:00 PM June 26th. 00:26:17 August 5th August. Then, uh, uh, oh my goodness. 15th. We're gonna be up in Canada. That's right. We're crossing the border. We're going up to Sam Kato 00:26:24 and then we round out at our special friend Temples on August 21st. Um, I got another one for you guys that I think is maybe 00:26:32 the tough part, the adaptations you make going down the road in August. Do you, do you just say, all right, 00:26:42 right now we know this is gonna happen and plan for it, or is there no planning for how the end of late season works out after these kind of springs? 00:26:51 No, I think you start planning for it. I mean, you, you brought up the sponsor of this podcast series is, 00:26:56 you know, superior with grain jars. That grain jars gonna be very important for us this year. We've got corn that's planted early. 00:27:02 That'll be, you know, relatively, we'll be harvesting probably the middle of August. Yep. And we got corn. If we plant here in the next week, 00:27:09 it'll be getting harvested in October at 25 plus percent moisture. So, you know, we're already gonna be planting for that, 00:27:15 making sure we have room in the bin still for some of this late season. Sometimes we bag grain at the end because it's dry. 00:27:22 I don't think that'll happen this year. So we're already planning for stuff like that and trying to, you know, get a good game plan. 00:27:27 And then not to mention, you know, me and Brian were talking this morning, we got weed harvest that could start tomorrow. 00:27:32 If we could ever get the sun to come out to dry out, we keep getting rain on it. It's gonna really affect it. 00:27:37 And the, you know, the damage that could be in the wheat and the delay of planting the soybeans. You 00:27:43 Said you could be harvesting it right now, May 30th. Yeah. It's just that obviously it's, it's soggy. Yeah. It's just the ground's not, you can't, 00:27:51 you can't take the, can't take much equipment off the road right now. So that's the, that's the thing. 00:27:55 Holding back, we're gonna try to harvest it. We think it's still got some moisture in it, which is what we like harvesting, but mainly 00:28:01 'cause they got rain today's Friday. They got rain starting next Wednesday for five days straight and wheat does not need any rain on it during harvest. 00:28:08 So, uh, I guess what I'm saying is if we're always planning, we're planning for corn harvest, that's still two months 00:28:13 out, three months out, depending on when we got it planted. We're also trying to get the game plan together on some 00:28:17 wheat that we're gonna start harvesting in the next day or two. All 'cause of this weather and 00:28:21 what it's doing to slow us down, Is it, is it too early to say we absolutely know we're gonna have a 15% yield burn on, on, on this 20% yield burn. 00:28:29 So that means we need to figure out a way to spend 20%. Are you already making the financial calculations to punch in what you think is an expected yield drag? 00:28:38 Uh, you talking about on the corn Or soy? I mean the wheat done right, the wheat. If I, if we can, as long as we can get the wheat harvested. 00:28:44 Yeah, you can, it's done. Yeah. If I can get the wheat harvested without losing any quality issues and getting dock, you know, a dollar, 00:28:51 $2 bushel, we're good there. But if we can harvest the wheat here in the next few days and start planting beans, beans probably be the first 00:28:58 versus, you know, June 20th is a big difference in yield. So there's some pros and cons of what's going on. 00:29:03 It's not all negative, it's just, you know, we're ready to go and just all depending on this weather depends on what we're going to spend, you know, 00:29:10 we usually don't dry a lot of wheat, but we can, and I guess that's what we're getting ready to do. If we can get, get in there, we're going to dry it. 00:29:16 And you don't think there's any fungus or mold or issues like that? No. It's all coming. I mean, you're, 00:29:20 it's a breeding ground out there. It's, it's, it's wet all day. You know, even the, the wheat straw never dries out. 00:29:25 'cause we hadn't had sun. We hadn't really had much wind to speak of. So the Wheat, you don't think the wheat's gonna be damaged yet. 00:29:31 What about going into that, into that straw stubble then? Does that change the disease possibilities 00:29:37 for the soybeans? Yeah, Well the biggest thing is if I cut, if I cut wheat today, there's no way we'd be planting 00:29:43 and we're used to planting right behind the combines like the same day. And that's not gonna happen. It's way too muddy. 00:29:48 It'll never, it'll never work. So I mean, there's a lot of things being changed. I mean, we're just sitting here on go 00:29:53 and we've got the power to get it out and we've got the power to get it planted. We just gotta get some weather 00:29:56 lined up to help us out a little bit. And Brian's got a good seed treatment on my soybeans, so that should help us with any type of disease 00:30:03 that we have going on, which usually you do not worry about in June. Honestly, that usually all that's on the downside, 00:30:09 but this year it's probably just as bad now as it was April 1st. So letting the, uh, 00:30:16 the soybean seed treatment's gonna be a big deal going into those kinds of conditions. 00:30:21 And then do you see it being, uh, that wheat stubble that's out there, the kind of year you're having, then it means more fungicide treatment 00:30:29 because of the, the conditions? It could be. I mean, it all depends on what the next few weeks look like, 00:30:34 but I would tell you right now, if we were planting beans today, the disease would be an issue. Wouldn't you agree, Brian? 00:30:40 I would agree. Yeah. Last question. Farmers like to farm, looking out there and seeing it do this mentally. 00:30:50 What's your, what's your, uh, Brian takes antidepressant. Johnny, what's your, what's your tip for the person 00:30:57 that says All right, I look up to you guys because uh, I like the extreme ag guys. They're kind of inspirational to me. 00:31:02 What do you do to keep it all together up here when you're chomping to bit and the weather keeps doing this to you? 00:31:07 You know, I just talk to people all across the country throughout the week and just, you know, if somebody's always seems to, has it worse than you, 00:31:13 makes you appreciate what we do have. And I mean, we've all been through it before, back when my granddad was alive, 00:31:18 he would always be able to tell me stories about how they've seen this, how we've been through it, whether it's a drought or a flood. 00:31:23 You know, I'm not gonna break down and go to the tanning bed like you, Damien. I know that's what you do to, you know, to get your, 00:31:28 uh, spirits back up and going. But you know, mainly just, you know, continue to talk to people and make sure everybody always knows they 00:31:33 need to reach out and talk to somebody. Do it. 'cause it is tough. And a lot of people are down right now financially. 00:31:38 They're down mentally, they're down spiritually, they're down. Yep. It's tough things out there. 00:31:42 Me and Brian talk to people every day that, you know, that are just, you know, in, in a, in a state of, you know, mine, that's not always the best. 00:31:51 If Brian, if you lived near here, I'd take you to the tanning bed a couple times a week. You know what, when we don't see the sun 00:31:56 for 10 days straight in May you, you gotta do something, right? That's Right. Yeah. 00:32:01 I've got a tanning bed at the gym I go to though, so I'm covered. Actually the tanning bed doesn't surprise me. 00:32:08 The fact that you go to a gym, I'm a little surprised by that, but that's a story for a different, that's a story for 00:32:11 A different recording. Absolutely. Alright, his name's Brian Adams. He's a volunteer Ag services. 00:32:17 He is, uh, in conjunction with, uh, Johnny Verell Rell Farms. Again, check out these field days. 00:32:21 Their field day's a great one. They put on a really, really good show. As you heard from Brian. How many replicated plots? 70 some? 00:32:28 No, in the hundreds. Four hundreds, 400 probably. I'm, I'm shooting from the hit, but I'm pretty close. I'm gonna hit on one of those first two shots of 00:32:36 that bird we talked about earlier. Yeah. When you insulted me and told me I was a bad shot, if I had 00:32:41 to pull a trigger the third time. Anyway, it's August 5th, 8:00 AM Jackson, Tennessee. Go and sign up. You gotta, you, they're free 00:32:47 to attend these field days for anybody, but you gotta go and sign up, register@theextremeag.farm. 00:32:51 Also, while you're there, check out our show The Grainery, if you like what we're doing, go 00:32:55 and check out our YouTube channel Extreme Ag. We've got a YouTube channel, it's free. And the more you subscribe, uh, you know, the better it is 00:33:01 for, for our visibility and we really appreciate it. So please go and check that out. Extreme ag.farm and also Extreme ags YouTube channel. 00:33:08 So next time. Thanks for being here. And that's John, that's Brian. My name's Damian Mason with extreme Ag cutting the curve. 00:33:12 That's a wrap for this episode of Extreme ags Cutting the Curve Podcast. Make sure to check out extreme ag.com 00:33:19 for more great content. Cutting. The curve is powered by Nature's bio. Kay. 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