Targeting Periods of Influence
24 Mar 2336 min 14 sec

How to make sure you are putting the right amount of fertility, where your crop needs it and most importantly when it needs it. Damian Mason leads a panel discussion at the 2023 Commodity Classic with Matt Miles, Kevin Matthews, Nachurs' Tommy Roach and Luke Murrow from 360 Yield Center.

00:00 We are now going to talk about targeting periods of influence. We're talking about how to make sure you're putting the right amount of fertility 00:06 at the plant base or where it needs to be next to the plant next to the seed when it needs it germination throughout the 00:15 season two by two all those kinds of things we're talking about. Now. We have Matt miles from McGee Arkansas. We have Kevin Matthews from 00:24 East Bend, North Carolina. These are extreme AG Founders extreme AG is a media platform. If you will free of 00:30 charge, you can go on there and watch all kinds of videos watch the extreme egg kind of the curve podcast and learn valuable information. 00:36 You can apply to your farming operation. Tommy roach Tommy roach is basically the agronomist savant 00:45 He's a nature see your guy back there liked it. The agronomist Savant with Nature's. Tommy's a great dude. He's got a wealth of information and he's going to talk to 00:54 us about the Nature's products and how to help you make more money on your farming operation. Then we're joined by a guy. I love this guy. I've 01:00 known him forever. Luke Murrow with with 360 yield Center and Luke's gonna talk to us about various ways to get the fertility at the plant 01:14 and when you need it, basically again targeting periods of influence. All right targeting periods of influence you and I met 01:20 for a beer the other night and we were planting this whole thing out and I said Tommy what does that mean? Tell these folks in your opinion what that means 01:26 targeting periods of influence and most importantly why it matters So before I start I was actually a sorghum breeder 01:32 and a previous lifetime. Did you know that I tell you what a lot of us Tommy you said you were a sorghum breeder. Some of us did things in college? We're not very proud of 01:43 Good, go ahead. All right, what's what does it mean targeting periods of influence so if you look at 01:51 This point behind us that plan over there. If you know, when what growth stage crops are in soybean corn in particular. We 02:00 know exactly what's happening. We know exactly what nutrients are being needed based on growth stage. That's not new information. 02:09 But I think it's coming mourn to light as we want to be more efficient with what we're spending as environmental factors come 02:18 into play. We may not be able to apply all of the phosphorus that we need to up front. So we have to spoon feed it through the 02:27 season depending on where you're at Chesapeake Bay Region Great Lakes region. 02:33 So we have to be smarter and if you want to say not work harder be smarter than what we do. 02:40 Okay, targeting periods of influence and going in there you'll perfect and by the way seriously folks come on in. Remember we have a bar after we are done. We're gonna have drinks. It's gonna be like roll out 02:49 the barrel. It's gonna be a great time. Don't cost nothing. I mean other than your admission to come here and you know pay for a hotel and if 02:55 you buy any trinkets for your kids that have Walt Disney emblems on them about, you know, minimum three dollars, but besides that the drinks 03:01 are free. Targeting periods of influence we're gonna lead off here with Kevin Kevin. I've been to your farm. I was there for a field 03:08 day August and I'm thinking it's hot. It's 100 degrees 100% humidity and you are still actually going out and doing stuff in the field and you're like man, I can't believe 03:17 anything. It's growing. What do you think about when you think about putting fertility out on that crop at different times and just 03:23 walk us through what that looks like in your part of the world you're putting stuff out from planting on tell us 03:29 kind of the general practice. Yeah, so we we look at trigger points, you know, they call them periods of influences, but we're trying to trigger that 03:37 plant for the end goal of making more money. And so what we're doing is when we're putting our fertility in Furrow, we're banding it in a tuba two on each side. We keep 03:47 cutting back on the fertility infer but we still like a little bit because we got knocked the greatest soles in the world where we are. They're very thin. 03:55 But then we'll come in and people used to say we're going to lay the corn by and we're going to top dress it. We're going to drop some nitrogen down. We'll use will you 04:04 actually use drop nozzles. We're on 22 inch rows and removing to the wide drop system, which he'll talk more about and 04:13 usually that's the end of it but there's so much more and so what influences yield what 04:19 what makes yield kernels and Colonel Waite. So the more kernels we can get and the more weight we can put in those kernels. So once 04:28 we you know, traditionally we go to our two R3 we get a fungicide on and we're done if you do fungicides, but what 04:37 we found is is we can go in and hit that R5 and we can really pack some more weight in so there's all kinds of trigger points. We just 04:46 don't give up you talk about rounding the bases and keep it going to keep on on you right now for a second Kevin Chad Henderson. One of the extreme Egg Farmers was up here yesterday and 04:55 his thing and we call him send it him and Temple Road demand. They just keep going keep going. He's out there treating corn at black layer. Basically, 05:04 I mean, he's just absolutely says I'm going to keep doing stuff. The last treatment you make are you as bad as Chad. Are 05:11 you going out there when it's basically almost time to run the combine still putting fertility out. 05:15 Well, I kind of think maybe they just one or two stalks out there that I missed and it ain't got the black layer yet. So I might go week past that just to make 05:24 sure I ain't Miss nothing. All right, Matt miles. Let's face it. He's one of these guys and if you're a good farmer and you want 05:32 to keep getting better you admit where you have room for improvement or you admit when sometimes you weren't as early of an adopters you needed to be Matt miles 05:41 confessed to me and a few other folks. He said, you know what I was behind the curve. I used to go out there and just do dry fertilizer. We did a webinar for extreme act we 05:50 talked about this I put out dry fertilizer is easiest his son Lane says saved us on Manpower saved us 05:56 on time, but you know what it wasn't as efficient. He was a late convert to infero. So take us through how you're conversion to becoming infero 06:05 and and the things you've done has also led to spoon feeding a crop at periods of influence. 06:13 Well, first of all, I'm going to say that right here here too much. Now first to a diamond diamonds, right? 06:25 We didn't start growing corn in the Delta until about 2008. So I'm relatively a young corn grower compared to most people out here corn got 06:35 the four dollars. You know, our we're a lot of Sharon. Our landowners wanted cotton cotton was a king beans were there Mr. Tommy knows that being drone your background and 06:44 that's just the way that that's just the way the ball bounced so we got in corn, you know, I was so green at that. 06:52 I didn't know anything other than the guy told me to plant two inches deep. I didn't know spacing. I didn't know how much facing made 06:58 how much difference it made. Definitely we're gonna do any liquid because then I'd have to put an infer applicator on my planter and I 07:04 have three or four Planters. I had to put it on four of them that was gonna be a lot of trouble. I could throw urea out there and some 07:10 ammonia sulfate and do that pre-plant come back do it twice, you know side dress and and how the airplane do a pretty tassel and I'd be done and when I 07:19 started hanging out with Kevin and Chad and you know the guys of extreme Ag and and you know, Kevin first Kevin 07:25 and I met way back when and I wanted to learn how to grow corn like he did and the first thing he told me is followed somebody else. But first thing he 07:34 told me is you know, you've got a you've got to get that you've got to have some Ortho fertilizer in the ditch 07:40 in in the furrow. So, you know, I had been me and my best friend with my farm manager at the time and he had been pushing me not to do it because it's more trouble. We finally 07:49 bit the bullet we done it started seeing increases as Kevin said, you know, we're finding a lot of other products that synergize with the infero fertilizers 07:58 that even even make things better. So we went from there so we cut out our our dry early or our we put 08:07 him for in there. We stay with our dry then we cut out the next thing we did it was stair step as I learned, you know, 08:13 I'm more slow learner. So I've got to see it to believe it which is a typical farmer. I'm a glass half him to go all the time. 08:19 My wife says I'm a pessimist. I'm a realist, you know, I'd way rather be surprised by something then discuss it all the time. So that's where I go. So I went from there to we started 08:28 coming these trade shows extreme AG 360 yield wide drops bats Swanson was the first one ever told me about what y drops and I'm like 08:37 that's gonna be us some more trouble. You know, now I'm gonna have to sit a slinging it out granular. I might have to use wide drops 08:43 so I might have to dedicate a sprayer to that. today not only am I 100% liquid or have been 100% liquid? 08:53 Tuba twos a problem for me because we have three point hitch Planters. I can't carry all the water. So another guy introduced me to streamer nozzles. So today 09:02 we're going to have infero streamer nozzles for our tuba two two applications with a wide drop. So that it's took up it's 09:11 it's took a circle but I my corn is increased. My corn yields have been increased dramatically. I think it's important because we got so many different geographies represented come out 09:20 of the classic. He's in the Delta Region Southeastern Arkansas, and I didn't even know there was such a thing as a three-point 09:26 hitch planter being an Indiana guy until I met him. So his point is it was harder. It was harder to do a lot of stuff at 09:35 the time of planting because you've got so much weight and and to put it on there and you know, 09:41 something love is don't even think about and so you're making the adaptation it wasn't because you just didn't want to do it. Some of 09:47 it was a harder adjustment to make for you based on the equipment you have right? Yes as far the tuba two, 09:53 we tried that so we had two when I come back from meeting with Kevin. I had two 500 saddle tanks a 500 front 09:59 tank. Nothing could go on a planner. Crossing ditches trying to fill up it was just a nightmare and and so I had to figure out a way 10:08 and this will be my first year. I had to figure out a way to get that product because when you use Liquid when you 10:14 go out with a first down you can have products to that you can add humics you can add fulvix you can add different things that you can't add 10:20 to a dry fertilize to help increase your yield and get nutrients into the plant. I think and an overriding theme we talked about this yesterday. 10:29 If you were at our panel yesterday is some of this is about environmental pressure. We're going to start seeing more of this and I'm not here to get into any kind of political stuff. But let's 10:38 just, you know, look around and so some ways I think the importance of talking about The Tommy targeting periods of influence means putting out 10:47 the right amount fertility at the right time at the right place versus the old days when there wasn't a big penalty environmentally 10:53 regulatory wise or even financially just to going out and fling and stuff out there in the fall or early spring. 11:02 So things of evolved over the years and here you heard Matt say that he's pretty new to the corn game. 11:11 Nature's really even though we started in for a fertility back in the you know late 40s 50s. 11:20 That's that's all we could Target and over say the last 10 years. We've been able to do things like Folger we've been able to do things like playing in 11:30 the ydrop game playing in the fungicide tank. So it's not all about infero anymore. That's just one piece of the puzzle. 11:39 We we create sort of a relay type system where we put fertility on the planter. We relay that to the 11:49 next stage, which would be saying the herbicide tank. We relay that to the next stage, which would be say why drop application and then even 11:59 on past that to say the fungicide tank and you take Say what what? they said earlier is go all the way to late 12:11 season applications, you know way into the our stage which you know until here in the last couple of years was not even thought about 12:20 I mean the point that Chad makes is there was a time when you were done by some time mid season and it's time to take your kids on vacation 12:26 and what we're discovering is and Kevin can speak to this you grab some test weight. You can grab some bushels way after when even you not 12:35 saying your grandfather or your father, even you 10 years ago thought. Oh, I didn't think there's any reason to be going out in that field after this certain point, but you're grabbing test wait and still 12:44 some yield. You know the way what got us on it. We had a hurricane coming a little early and the corn, you know, we got 12:51 back Waters backed up into canals and the corn was showing nitrogen deficiencies. So we chose to go in with our basically a wide drop 13:00 and put the nitrogen out real late and it was I mean it was so wet. We spawned through the fields, but we went ahead and got it done. We left 13:09 several checks and we actually picked up right at 40 bushels by doing that and you know, you got a stress crop 13:18 there. So you're recovering that crop a little bit but the equipment we have now the technology we have, you know, 13:24 the tall sprayers the wide drops and in our like we run 360 tanks on all of our planting tractors. It's easy to 13:33 get up and down the road with them. They're balanced. Well, we don't have compaction all this stuff that's been built for us to use. 13:39 It's got a place and it's not for everybody but it works well for Us and it works well for many others, but you got to see what fits you 13:48 but the fact is you can't give up. So then we want to say well, how can we influence a good crop? If it's not under stress? Is there still room on the table? And that's 13:57 where we pick up and get to that 62 64 pound test weight corn because we just keep packing it in there. 14:05 And that's and that's one thing as we talk about. Why drop is is you speak to a lot of the cornbreaders out there. There's a 14:11 lot of them they'll tell you late seizure nitrogen pays on certain hybrids. They really respond well to that later 14:17 in the season application something that most guys have never really thought about prior to wide drop because they never had the ability to go 14:23 into fully tassel corn and put nitrogen out there. So with wide drop, it gives you the ability to put fertilizer on from Shin High corn all the 14:32 way to Black layer. So if you have a sprayer tall enough to get through it, you can apply the fertilizer to the crop at that point. 14:39 One one neat thing so I actually helped manage. It's the Biltmore Estate in Asheville North Carolina to Vanderbilts kind of getting on 14:48 the verge of bragging right now knowing I don't know if I ever told you but I'm friends with a little family from American Fortune Dynasty 14:54 called the Vanderbilts. All right, we all know you know rich people. Well, actually they hire me to help them say yes, I'll accept her 15:04 money. Okay, you're the hired. You're the hired here for the Vanderbilts. Yeah, but no, so it's a small. It's 7,000 15:10 Acres, but these 400 Acres of row crops, but How their equipment is small the state is a lot of impassable one lane stuff. 15:20 So they actually built a four-row wide drop Toolbar to go in and side dress their corn. So my point is is regardless of 15:29 the equipment you have and the size you have you can make this stuff fit your application and it is pretty 15:35 neat and they do a really they grow really good corn in that River Bottom up there in the mountains. We're going to go to Tommy and 15:41 talk about specifically because you're saying all right. He's the agronomist Savant when are my periods of influence? When does 15:47 it absolutely matter? When is it critical Tommy when are periods of influence? I didn't even learn about all these 15:53 things. Hello. There's my girl. Actually I didn't even know about these things called periods of influence you're talking 15:59 about obviously at time of germination that plant has to have something take me from there on and tell me what are these critical periods? When we have to have we have to have the right 16:08 fertility in the right place at the right time to make a bonus a a respectable crop 16:14 So, of course we start with infer fertility because we like to sell basically five gallons of in for an acre, but that's not 16:23 the only reason it makes a great carrier. You can put in micronutrients you can put in organic acids humics full vic 16:32 stress mitigation products. It makes a great carrier and you can't go back and well you 16:38 can go back and replant, but you really don't want to You get one shot to get the crop up, correct? And that's why that's one of the big reasons 16:47 why we use and for fertility. So we go to the next stage. So what's when we start making rows? 16:56 On on corn what stage? Anybody want to answer that I might be even throw some cash in it for that. What was the question again? Repeat the question. What's that? What growth stage do we start making rose 17:06 on corn? five B5 correct V5 that that's five or V5 whatever. So that kind of coincides with 17:19 what other basic task or we typically doing at V4 V5? post herbicide What do a lot of people not take advantage of 17:31 when they're running herbicide? It's a great place. Yes. It's a great place to put nutrition and they're I don't 17:40 know why more people do not do it. Because you're getting a free ride across the field and these two guys use Finish Line in 17:48 herbicide tank. So that's that's the next stage. Now when we start setting how many how long that ear's gonna 17:57 be? What's next stage? V10 for my buddy in Oregon That's a regular visitor to commodity classic V10. coincidentally 18:12 What typical stage can we are we running ydrops? That's about the time we're running wide drops and we're putting on nitrogen. 18:22 Should we only put on nitrogen at that time? Most people like to do that because they think more nitrogen 18:28 more yield. Oh, well, no. You can't use nitrogen unless you have some sulfur in there. 18:37 Unless you have boron in there. And unless you have the third one if you want to go over and look at my little solubility experiment that I'm doing 18:48 on the corner over there. It's really nice to add Kay in there too. Because there's no way that a corn crop 18:56 at that stage can supply roughly 10 to pound 10 to 14 pounds of k2o per day. 19:04 You've got to add more K to the environment. Let's go to our friend Luke down here periods of influence and how you can help. 19:13 We took it from you know, infero, etc. Etc. Why drops that's intimidating to a lot of people. I mean, seriously, you're going and dragging through there. What am I? What am I doing? What 19:22 am I missing? How can my job be easier that I'm kind of scared? I'm intimidated about going out there. I'm afraid I'm Gonna Knock my cord down. 19:28 I'm probably doing more harm than good. These are the questions you get probably presented with right. 19:32 Tell me why I'm wrong. Yep. So so at 360 we offer several different products through the entire grocery. So we're talking infero products up to 19:41 two by two on the planner Bandit up to the wide drop all the way to the finish. So as you ever hear Greg Saturday who's the founder of our company talk? He always 19:50 talks about like the relay race, you're always hand and corn off one stage to the next and you never want it to have a bad day. So when 19:56 you look at unforo products, we have what we call 360 wave, which is kind of a dual application product. It gives 20:02 you the ability to close the seed trench and it gives you the ability to place products three quarters of an inch off to the side from the seed at seed level. So at that pop up place, you 20:11 know, you can put some of your micro some of those things down there next to the Sea. The next thing we kind of hand on to is to your 20:17 early season nitrogen. So like these guys say when you're going through the field with a planner, you know, that's a pass you're paying for regardless 20:23 of what you do. So you might as well be putting some sort of nutrient out there with that planner. So we have what we 20:29 call Bandit so it's two by two by two placement. So placing nitrogen next to the seed in a band get the get the benefits of banding nitrogen 20:38 that 2x effect of the banding and then from Bandit we move on to the Y drop. So we also have two different versions of Y drop we have a wide drop side 20:47 dress. So the guys are used to running a side Dress Bar. Typically a Colter bar or thing like that. We have the ability 20:53 to tap them over and use the wide drop system. So you can take any cold colder bar you have out in the weeds or something that you currently own and adapted over to be able to use ydrop 21:02 bases or you can go and use your sprayer which we all understand the price of what this Machinery costs these days, you know, we want to get as much out of every piece 21:11 of equipment as we can. So if you have that machine in your shed, you might as well be using it to apply fertilizer in season. It's a very good tool very accurate something 21:20 that allows you to span that application window from you know, Shin High corn all the way up to tasseling Corn. So as you look through products, we're very 21:30 Innovative company. We're always trying to solutions for Growers as they go throughout their growing season. All right, man, I gonna talk about spoon feeding stuff and I just asked him 21:40 I said should we talk about stress? We did a webinar extreme AG every month for paying members get a webinar. We get a lot of interaction. You don't have to be a member to watch 21:49 all of our content, but that's something we do and one of our webinars we devoted it fully and solely to stress mitigation. One of 21:55 the big things that Kelly Garrett one of our extreme act guys said I believe that we have a lot of potential with 22:01 the fertility that's there. Maybe we've got a stress plant and it can't uptake the fertility. So I'd like you guys to address targeting 22:07 periods of influence with fertility, but also not allowing that fertility to be wasted because the plant is so stressed. It can't take it up. So Tommy and 22:16 then the guys that work where it's obviously very stressful where it's 110 degrees Tommy. So the there's certain nutrients 22:22 that that have specific purposes. So we'll talk about potassium. What is one of the main focuses of 22:32 what potassium does? as far as a nutrient it moves other things around in the plant. It is not actually part of any particular plant 22:43 cell. But it is the nutrient. That is the first layer of Defense on plant stress. And potassium acetate or 22:56 our bio-k technology is the most soluble available and efficient form of potassium that 23:05 is out on the market and and these guys and as well as others in the audience these characters right here on the second row 23:14 or well familiar with that. now stress products you can you can talk about different metabolites that are on the market microbial products 23:27 organic acids. There's all sorts of different products out there that can help plants mitigate stress because 23:36 once plants shut down. What they want to do? They want to produce ethylene which basically cuts the whole growing cycle off. So that's 23:46 what we want to prevent until it's actually time for plant to mature. So the southern guys we're gonna go here with 23:55 Matt about stress. I mean, I can't think it's a really important thing to say a period of influence when that plant is at a certain point I get that we can talk about the 24:04 plant growth cycle. But if it's been a hundred and ten degrees for 10 days and no rain It doesn't matter what I put out there my plants so stressed. It. Can't 24:13 take it up. Anyhow, am I right? To me. I look at stress mitigation is not just the products. Tommy mentioned stress mitigation. And we preach this 24:22 a lot of extreme AG can be anything from from water to the right temperatures, you know to a fungicide to to you know, fertility also 24:31 and I think what we do we fall short of and I'm as guilty anything. I'm telling you. I probably done it the wrong way is why I believe in what 24:40 I'm what I'm telling you but you know, we we concentrate so much on the macros the mp&k as a farmer 24:46 the easy way out is to get those three get those three in the right situation and then you're done. Right? Well as Lee Lewis says you're on second base, you know, so we 24:55 have to pay attention to the microbes. Those are those are extra steps. We can take to reduce stress stress 25:01 on a plant and increase yield. I want you to address that now Kevin because we talk a lot about stress reduction is Right. Am I 25:10 in my statement that we're putting fertility out there at periods of influence. Sometimes is it a lost 25:16 cause because there's plants too stressed or is it never is it never the wrong time to go ahead and Target a period of influence? 25:23 I think you got to put some common sense in there. I mean if if you're sitting there in a severe drought and you corned it and pollinate 25:29 well and you know heavy Heat. He got to be smart and cut the money off, but it looks like a pineapple. Yeah. 25:38 Yeah, I mean, you know, sometimes you need to be spraying it to a clock in the morning to get those get those products in 25:44 there. You got to look at the weather. You can't give up but when it gets to the part that you know, there's no 25:50 recovery you got to be smart and farm smart because you want a farm again next year and they want to see you fertilized next 25:56 year. So, you know, we got a limit the the stress on us and the plant at that time Tommy and or Mr. Murrow when I think about targeting a 26:06 period of influence because that's the whole subject of our thing here today. Is there something I can get wrong. Is there a mistake that you've seen 26:12 made have I gone out there and missed my window or Miss applied tell me because you know, a lot of times people learn by negative reinforcement. Let's save these 26:21 people the hassle or the cost of learning with negative reinforcement. What can I get wrong? What mistake can I make that can cost me? 26:29 putting too much nitrogen That's is that pretty much agreed everybody agrees on that too much nitrogen. Okay, something that you can hop in here anytime mistake. I 26:38 can make people think about I want to make more yield a lot of times they'll throw more nitrogen at it, which is the worst thing that could happen, you know 26:48 not too long ago. Everybody used the used to use the rule of thumb, you know a pound of nitrogen for bushel of corn. Well, 26:57 that number is now down to you know point six point eight. But still there's a lot of people that just throw more 27:05 nitrogen and that's not the right thing to do. Yeah, that's for sure. I mean when it comes to nitrogen, you know, that's one of the nice things about some of our systems is it gives 27:14 you a little bit of that time value of money so you can have the ability to wait and wait and wait and as you look at the crop cycle 27:20 our life cycle of a crop corn plant, you know, it uses 75% of its nitrogen from V10 on so you have quite a 27:29 bit of time in there to let Mother Nature play his hand, you know, these guys talk about hurricanes, which I'm from Kansas. I don't 27:35 even know what that is, but you know talk about tomorrow night. It was amazed. Yeah. You don't want a hurricane is 27:41 yeah. I'm just okay. Well, I mean I I thought you know, what a hurricane is. It's a criminal football player from the University of Miami. That's what 27:49 Nebraska but anyway. You know with that being said, you know with why drop, you know, you have the ability to wait you can let like this last year. Like I 27:58 said, I live in North Central Kansas, you know, we we burned up. So there was a lot of guys that when it came later in 28:04 the season, they understood that pineapple corn. They knew that hey. My yield is limited at this point. I know what 28:10 I think I can get and at that point it almost becomes some of the rescue mission. You're like, hey this high dollar 28:16 and nitrogen that I'm putting out there. I can hold some of that for next year, you know versus wasting throwing it out throughout the crop. So, 28:22 you know time value of money that's worth a lot to a lot of people 28:26 All right, the biggest mistake you say is putting out too much nitrogen. Is there a second biggest mistake that I can make when I'm trying to Target my 28:32 period I'm not here. I'm chasing yield. I'm all about it. I've been tuning in. I'm washing extreme. AG I listen to Tommy and Luke and 28:38 then get too excited and I get a little bit over my skis I make a mistake one of the mistake when I make 28:43 not putting carbon in with that nitrogen it that's a big one customer. That's a big one everybody to address that because Kelly Garrett talks a lot about carbon to nitrogen 28:52 ratio. Tell us why that's important Kevin then pass the mic. I'll tell you I feel kind of ignorant because last year 28:59 was when we did a lot of the test and when I seen the yield differences, I don't know why it took me so long to get on the bandwagon. I played with some of it but there are certain 29:08 carbon products. It's not as user friendly as others. They're all good. It's just what's the you most user friendly 29:14 and we found some it really worked. Well for us and Tommy actually recommended me to use the product and it's unbelievable. We 29:23 picked up 18 bushels in 200 plus acre plot with one planter with one without so nearly 300 acres 29:33 planted there and solid 18 bushels everywhere. We added that in there and it's just getting that balance. Tommy's more the chemist. He 29:42 can pay more about it. Agronomist, I would say and by the way, I told the crowd yesterday if you were not here, I love Tommy Roche. He's again the 29:50 agronomist Savant he also has only one flaw. He's a Texas Tech Raider. Through and through and through and through so a bunch of the product names. He has 29:59 are named with sports names. He named One Finish Line to honor our friend Chad Henderson because he's a race car driver, but he also names him after Texas Tech themed 30:08 football things. He's got touchdown. He's got offsides. He's got well interception for 30:16 when you're crop really needs a reset anyway. I'm just going with the things that Texas Tech has known for not making a bowl game in the last eight years just things like that. 30:27 All right. Go ahead. Last time Purdue. Did they were in a bowl game last year Purdue went six and seven. Did they win? Anyway produce a really good basketball team. 30:37 All right. go ahead and Carbon thing because I need to explain in simple terms carbon to nitrogen ratio humic acids. 30:49 That's carbon acetate carbon is another form of carbon. There's a lot of people adding sugars. 30:57 Those are some of the things that you can add it all helps to improve nitrogen utilization sulfur Boron copper. 31:07 Organic acids potassium and don't forget there is another crop out there other than corn. 31:14 It's called soybeans. It's not it's not only a crop to plant to get to next year's corn crop. 31:22 As you can hear from this guy sitting on the end. What was your yield this year? If you do things, right? 31:32 Contest here was 123 123. It is possible to make a good Bean crop without much effort. If you know what 31:41 you're doing got it and then you have something to contribute on that on on ratios Yeah. Well, yeah, not one thing 31:47 I wanted to say is, you know, we're talking about nitrogen reduction and we've all been guilty of putting out too much fertilize. We 31:53 are actually at we were actually we started at one point two. to A Bushel, you know we're down now 31:59 from that but the placement so if you watch this video of the wide drops, you know, it's a no-brainer when you're slinging urea and ammonia sulfate 32:08 out all over the place, you know, a lot of that's going in those middles where there's not as not most of your nutrient uptake roots are at the base of the plant 32:17 we were able we were able to decrease our that's a first place we decreased our nitrogen what's going to going to 32:23 a wide drop because we didn't have to use as much because we were putting it work. So when it's 15 inches off for 30, you know, 32:29 you're going to get a certain percentage of that when it's right there at the base of the plant. You're pretty much going to get all of it and back to Kevin. You got to let me 32:35 finish you got to just hold on it back to what Kevin said, you know, something that we've learned is there's different ways to protect your nitrogen. We feel like we're protecting our 32:44 nitrogen with the humics and a full vix in place of some of the other nitrogen protection products that are not good for your soul. 32:52 Luke you are all about placing it. I mean if I want to get it out at the time of influence when it really matters you're all about that. What do I need to 33:01 know wrap me up close me out here on the very subject of getting it because you know, what saying the timing matters placement matters. Yeah, 33:07 and that's kind of the beauty of the systems that we operate placement is far and foremost our main goal. We want to place that nitrogen where it's most 33:16 utilized working get into the plant to quickest as possible. And you know, that's like he said that's the beauty of a 33:22 lot of the girls we speak with that have went from you know, slinging urea to side dressing in the middle things like that. A lot 33:28 of them will tell you, you know, I've been able to decrease my nitrogen from that one point one down to that point seven five or 33:34 point six even and guys that are really trying to push the envelope so at 360, we really pride ourselves and trying 33:40 to make good quality products that help producers solve a solution or form a solution. So if you have any questions, please 33:46 stop by our booth over there talk to one of the guys in the white shirts and we can kind of point in a direction if you have a question. 33:52 Big takeaway big takeaway big takeaway. He's a knows how to take away is it makes you bushels if you put the fertility out there right time right place right location. So 34:01 one so this other crop that we were talking about. I just want to get on the bean kick right fast once you 34:07 hit flowering do not forget to put phosphorus potassium and sulfur they beans a 70 bushel Bean 34:18 crop takes more P&K than a 200 bushel corn crop. Say that again, by the way, that's really good information. 70 bushel being crop takes more P&K than 34:30 a 200 bushel corn. And why do I need sulfur? The last I checked soybean is a oil seed crop it is making 34:39 protein in oil. So you need sulfur to help make protein got it anything from my two extreme Egg Farmers all that door big takeaway right time 34:48 right place targeting periods of influence. I'm just impressed. He didn't say by Nature's I was gonna bet money on it. No, no, he's not doing that. All right, 34:58 it's not a commercial. This is a party after all that. What do you got Kevin? 35:03 This you know the right time and right placement and the right products and the right equipment. You just got to get everything right and getting the field get 35:12 in the field. Don't don't stay out of the field and in Matt our big thing and we talked about Chad Henderson about you can make so much more yield by putting out even less fertility, 35:21 but doing it at the right time and putting it where it needs to be the old days are done going out there and just flinging dry fertilizer 35:27 every which makes it was cheap. And because there's no environmental pressure. Those are done, right? That's exactly right and you're the and you're 35:33 the disciple for that. I'm the disciple for that and like Mr. Tommy said, you know, don't don't forget about your soybeans because they can 35:39 be a really good cash crop if you treat them, right? My name is Damien Mason. That's Matt miles. That's Kevin Matthews with extreme AG check out our platform. We 35:48 obviously work in partnership with Nature's. We want to help you get big yields make lots of money. This is my best friend Luke Murrow with 360 35:57 love this guy. And then of course Tommy roach the agronomist Savant with Nature's the bar is open. We really appreciate being here. Thanks a lot for being here and on day 36:06 number Friday of the commodity classic. Thank you.

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