00:00 Kevin Matthews here with extreme AG we're here at the national farm machinery show and the Louisville Kentucky is a big crowd this year. We're getting 00:09 a lot of questions about Biologicals and we thought we'd take advantage of having Mark here with Concept agrotech and Mr. Matt miles and I 00:18 am we just got a few questions here going into the spring is what's the best thing we can do and and you know, Matt and I we're in this week wager sure. 00:27 He keeps our butt last year. So he needs to be he ain't gonna ask you many questions because he don't want to revealing but respect that, 00:36 you know, I'm fixing to be putting some nitrogen with some Harmony out and I like to put my Sweet Success there. Absolutely sure. 00:45 What other biology would you recommend to get these get to sleep? Hey, we've been really way it so sure. 00:55 I mean it's been saturated since November. What can we do to help bring? Beat out and get it to recover going into the spring. So we've got 01:03 that question a lot, you know in our neck of the woods. We're extremely dry, you know at wheat planting time so really getting 01:09 those fall tillers, which we all know is where our good yield comes from. We didn't get that as much, you know this year and didn't have the growth. So what we're doing 01:18 is trying to Introduced biology at that time like you're talking this Greenup period to where we're mineralizing, 01:26 you know phosphorus and zinc a lot of those nutrients that are going to be specific that root development and tillering and 01:32 obviously adding things like, you know, what we would consider a biostimulant like seat Sweet Success, you know, that's gonna obviously give that 01:41 wheat energy. It's a good carbon Source, but at the same time, you know feed that biology. That's something here at the show. It's the 01:50 second day and I would say we've had probably at least 20 people come up and say, you know, well, there's so much biology. There's a million other boots out here, 01:59 you know, what what's the difference and we really try to educate our people or people that are coming 02:05 up to us on what to look for, you know, as people are saying about the cheapest that whatever you bet and it does 02:14 actually all get lumped into that same biological category, but you know things like 02:20 Sugars and helmets and phobics we would consider those to be more, you know, biological stimulants because you're putting that food out there and hopes that 02:29 there's enough biology to you know, get your weak kicked off and kind of start mineralizing nutrients or you know, the rice or cotton or whatever it is, but that brings 02:38 up a good question and and Matt and I guess this question a lot with our members. So we're sitting here 02:44 now you talk about humics and full sure. I always try to think of my humans. I'm putting in the ground root my ass. My foot is more for my flowering 02:53 and research inside. But with we what would I mean, would you lean more towards the human side right now this spring it's so 03:02 there's there's a lot of options I guess and they're pretty multifaceted. When you start looking at at humex versus full vix. I tell 03:11 you one thing we found really good success with on human sides specifically is kind of Helper and hydrogen so when we're 03:20 going Out there burn that you don't get a burn on it exactly throw it to it. And it's way at the summer. It's gonna 03:26 be bigger. Absolutely. So humics are a great option there and you know, not only are they helping kind of 03:32 stabilize that nitrogen in a way that's biologically friendly. So you're not having to put a stabilizer out there that's you know, really harmful to that biology. 03:41 You're actually stimulating the biology so that they're feeding on that humic versus your nitrogen and converting it. So that's something in the in the nitrogen 03:50 shot that we've found very beneficial on wheat. This is something that's new in general. I'm here, you know, even when you go if you mix in the full extent and you 03:59 know, the carbon sources along with the biology, you know, all this is a new frontier. Basically, I mean Kevin you've been using it you've been using it a long time but you know, it's something 04:08 that we just got into in the last few years if you remember you may not even been here, but we started out with a bunch 04:14 of bugs and Bottles absolutely. Well a bunch of bugs with the bugs. We're putting the bugs in there and then putting the Bible wait in there to feed 04:20 the Which byovate had carbon Source in it, too? Absolutely. I prefer a humic form of blend which 04:26 all humans have phobics and I'm also sure but but that folding part helps take the nutrients into the soil, you know, you can just put out the humid and you'll get a 04:35 little bit of focus. But if you put out a little bit of both that enables the natural biology that you're creating the bugs 04:41 that we're putting in the soul and in the full workout, you have to get that in the plant and and one thing you said about the humic as a nitrogen State Lottery. It's the most 04:50 natural safest nitrogen stabilizer for you know for your field absolutely protect your biology, right? And that's a prime example 04:59 when we first started with bugs about they and this has nothing with the carbon we put it out we got we got a bigger root system. We got a more 05:08 Griffey clamp widely yield was close to the same couldn't figure out what the problem now with the biology. We're putting out a lot of high facility too. I 05:18 work with Kevin when I first started trying will have production corn, you know, listen to the things he was telling me and I was doing those things right including products concept 05:26 bag biology human. My problem was I had flooring in my water. And so I didn't have anything to buffer that chlorine. So 05:35 as I was putting those bugs in the tank they were dying immediately when I put water really and that's where the misconception of 05:41 biology is. There's things you have to do to make sure that your body be protected even without biology. The flooring was hurting sure. It's her 05:50 name see if my chemicals absolutely herbicides or whatever but it was really tearing up the biology. Absolutely. It took 05:56 a few years to realize that that was a problem. So, you know that's things we got to learn is we're going is how to use these products and again education, you know 06:05 by no means like I told you guys we do not have the biological World figured out by any means but you know, we've been playing with Biologicals now for 06:14 about eight to 10 years, which is not a long time but in the biological world, that's that's a pretty good world. You're on the 06:23 top of it you're on the side here and we're still learning every day. I mean it is literally every year. We you know stumble across something that you know, 06:32 we're That soil Health tests or things like that. That's like hey, we've never but why is this happen? And so we're continually 06:38 learning ourselves Kevin. I'll tell you like when talking about that. We first started we wasn't getting a result out of concept actually came down and 06:47 pulled microflora from my natural habitat tree bark leave dirt. Just anything they could find 06:54 Went back and kind of custom made a a product for the Delta sure and still with the chlorine. You know, I still yeah, so 07:03 and I mean eight years is a long time in the ballot, right? Y'all learned a lot. We've learned a lot. Oh, we you know, it was by just pure 07:12 trying to figure out why things work on one Farm or not. We're before we ever realized the water source was the problem you had and so but I 07:22 mean, that's so important that we figured it out. Then now you're seeing the benefits. I just doing good, but wouldn't you know, one thing with the microwave 07:31 was a biological that we're using is we're being a lot more sustainable without using our nitrogen to bushels is the physically 07:40 is so much better now and I think that's a big movement forward. But because we're getting pressure, you know, we got example affair 07:49 on the Chesapeake Bay. I'm sitting there on the PD and the house like Restrictions on me now and the water going in Atlantic. 07:57 Let's see and I think it's going to really be a big deal on the sustainability, you know efficient we 08:03 do and these these Biologicals and easy, the the microbial activity is a huge part in making 08:09 the nitrogen user efficiency on the last phosphorus that need as much absolutely and I can tell you we recommend 08:15 a lot of things we don't sell whether that's dry fertilizer gypsum or you know, a lot of different things but 08:21 I sat down with the grower here just last week and since 2019, he's been running what I would consider a heavy biological program. 08:30 So he's managing his residue in the fall. We're introducing biology at planting. We're running a lot of these femix and phobics. 08:38 I'm not spread a lick of dry phosphorus whatsoever. And his levels out of probably 75% of the fields. We looked at were over 08:47 2019 in those same Fields. So, you know, it's you know how scary that is to a farmer though. Sure Kevin Kevin does he is 08:56 soybean fertility with with A half or less than a half of what I'm doing, right and he at the nail on the head was a sustainability. We're we're being 09:04 forced which is a good thing to be better Farmers sure reduce nitrogen reduce perlite fertility in general absolutely biology helps do that. The biology 09:13 is going to put us in the next level of being you know, you are special. Yes and more Fishing and More sustainable to the environment and that's what that's what 09:22 the world's looking for now here, you know, I wish we were doing this 25 years ago. We didn't have the technology and we 09:28 were so questionable. We didn't we didn't really believe it. You know, we were so tall we had been gay out there. That's 09:34 what Grandpa did and we really focus on the micros until the late 90s early 2000s, but the you know, 09:43 when I look at all this and I'm sitting here thinking, you know, how can I afford to spend extra money, you know laying rents 09:49 going up equipment that's going up but we're not gonna spend no extra money is Chad Anderson says we're gonna reallocate sure 09:55 we're gonna pull some money. We're gonna fifty dollars out of 09:58 Building program we're gonna put it over here on our humans and full books and our microbial activities 10:04 and bacterias to be more efficient with what we're buying and and what amazes me is we reallocate we move that money over spend it 10:13 on these other ingredients. Yeah. I mean, we got to add an extra cost to our tender trailer tender truck to handle this, right but at the 10:22 end of the day our tissue sample, there was we're getting some of the best nutrient levels into plants. So it's just 10:28 so sustainables what we're doing it, but I mean, it's just it's amazing how easy we're coming. We're not you're not increase in your calls and and 10:37 the majority of the time that none your increase in your yield sure. So you're you're you're process thing the same you're using more sustainable products, so 10:47 that counts to and you're increasing you absolutely it's when it's a win wins best of both world. I've been really excited about 10:56 it because I was one of those Sayers back in and especially when I couldn't get it to return sir. Absolutely. I've 11:04 been pretty excited. We talk about it all the time. It naturally occurs, you know out and whether you're in a wood lot or somewhere like that, you're 11:13 not throwing 200 pounds of diaper 300 pounds of potash on that stuff yet. Look it's growing and it's doing what it's supposed to what we're trying to do is 11:22 mimic, you know, what's what's naturally should be happening. And yeah, and that's that's the key. I think more 11:28 than a great conversation. I mean, we you know, I appreciate it appreciate relationship and I had to interrupt Matt because you know, I need y'all need 11:38 to help me on this week. Whether you we'll have inside discussion here. Bring me pretty bad. Yeah, I've got zero fall 11:44 tiller. So, you know where I'm sitting right now and my weeds been living in the water like he said since it was too dry 11:50 to Planet when I finally got a planet it's been living in the water tonight. I'm probably not gonna be a fact. Yeah, but as Farmers we 11:56 do appreciate what y'all do. Absolutely and you got to keep educating us because we don't have all the answers for these and we don't either, you know, between us, you know, 12:05 farmers are very knowledgeable at their farms and Fields so together. I feel like we'll come up with 12:11 something that works. So I hope what we talked about bring some value to you. Y'all stay safe and hopefully see 12:17 you Monday classic.