00:00 Temple roads are affiliate from Maryland had a smart idea. We were on an online meeting the other day and he said Damien, let's 00:06 record something with Chad about wheat and we talk about from the north to the South because the idea is where I'm from a northern Indiana you go out there and you put your weed in you 00:15 drill it in and beginning of October and you forget about tilapro. And then maybe you go out and do a nitrogen treatment on it. These guys 00:21 are doing wheat treatments now and they want you to be prepared from what they're doing. They're I'll tell you how they're doing it why they're doing it when they're 00:27 doing it and then you can apply that to your operation based on where you are climate to logically. 00:32 Welcome to extreme AGS cutting the curve more than just a podcast. It's the place for insights. You can apply immediately to your farm 00:41 operation for increased success this episode of cutting the curve is brought to you by AG Explorer. With Innovative products that improve fertilizer efficiency 00:50 protect yield and reduce stress. AG explore helps maximize field potential find out how AG Explorer can help you get more out of your crop at Ag explore.com. 00:59 And now here's your host Damien Mason. Hey there welcome to another fantastic episode of extreme x Cutting the curve. We're talking about wheat today, 01:08 we're talking about what you should be doing right now. We're releasing this in early January of 2023. 01:14 So depending on when you're listening to this, I know maybe you went back and found this doesn't matter. Just think about the timing now Chad Henderson grows. A lot of we 01:23 he's in Madison, Alabama. That's North Alabama not too far from Huntsville. And so his time he's gonna be a little 01:29 bit different temple in Eastern Shore, Maryland. So that's what we're talking about. We're talking about wheat what you should be doing. Now, what's 01:35 the next step? Because it's in the ground. It's growing. What should you be doing? Now? You can take these lessons home to your farming operation 01:41 for bigger yields, Chad. You just told me something we start before we started recording. I said, you're gonna be going on hitting. 01:47 Fields like in February, aren't you and he said no, I'm doing it now tell us what's going on in your wheat 01:53 Fields right now. Well, you know the reason we put nitrate we start spraying wheat and put nitrate in is where we can winterize the sprayers, you 02:01 know, so that's kind of what we do. Yeah, you're doing you're doing it just say that's it. Yeah, so we're 02:10 just doing it. We're just doing it so we can run some stuff through the prayers won't freeze. So the last time that 02:16 we was in the field on the wheat was rat prior to Thanksgiving. It was like the right the day before Thanksgiving and Thanksgiving Day morning. That 02:22 was we was in the wheat field putting our herbicide on and we put a shot in you know, that me and Temple talk about before, you know, it's it's 02:31 got a shot of it's a splash pgr, which we had Mega growing there with complex in there had some sugar in there and that's what 02:41 now, wait a minute you're telling me. This is the last time you went over it. I guess this just so that the person that's listening can run 02:47 it on time. You planted your wheat win. So, alright, let's start on it. So we we plan our week around the 20th 18th. So the 20th is 02:59 when we start I'd like to have all of it planted by the 10th of November, you know, if I can plan all the same time, it'll be 25th to 03:05 the first of November will be our Prime window. We want to we want to start playing around it. This year was around a 16th or 17th 03:11 of October 20, when we started we would like to plan it all if we could plant it into Prime window be the 25th of October to the first the fifth. Let's say 03:20 the fifth of November. I love that window it hits good for us. And so by the time he come up and growing good 03:26 then we put our first herbicide on which we either you know, this time we done a lot of distance in front of it. So we didn't need to spray as much 03:32 burn down. So we run into this over and then what we had a herbicide treatment we did and it was right prior to Thanksgiving actually the day before Thanksgiving and Thanksgiving morning 03:41 was the weather was great for and we've done it in but we didn't quite get finished with it. Okay some numbers here. You're we part on 03:50 average then by Thanksgiving has been in the ground. A month and so you've got if you assuming you have water your emergence and so you're was your week 03:59 four inches on average at that point. No, it's just it you can row it good, you know, and there's certain windows that we got to use. You know, if you're putting out residual, you know, 04:08 where something like that you have to put it out after it after it sprouts. You know, Matt miles can talk to you about that, you know, 04:14 so it needs to be that what Temple so third or fourth day after you plan it, you know, if it's got moisture should have a sprout in or you know, if you don't spray it before then 04:23 you can see some damage and you know, or you can spray it after it comes on up gets going, you know, but I I do the same thing on this Chad, 04:32 but I wait until it spikes the ground and I use the philosophy of you can see down the road. It's time to go. But I'm also I I want to 04:41 wait till it's kind of up and above ground because I'm gonna put on a few other things as well and that I 04:47 kind of want to get right on the plant but go ahead Chad. That's exactly what we doing this time. So we waited on it and it 04:53 was a slight Temple said so we was three weeks in any kind of just row it, you know, it was probably two inches high, you know, something like that. It was trying to throw the second leave out. 05:03 So that's kind of where we was and then we put on we had a pretty good load in there. You know, we talked about we had some we had 05:09 Mega growing there, you know, which is just a pgr root stimulant. So we had that in we had some sugar in we had some sea cat in you know, or some 05:18 kind of humic or whatever us a buffer and then we had a couple of herbicides in you know, the things we went after so I don't remember what else we had 05:27 anything. I think it was six or seven things in it. Okay at that point and micro pack in there. Yep, that this 05:33 bonus first load. We actually use that one from Nature's crop Max. 05:37 Is only you don't go back here on what's in the so it's roughly two inches high. You're it's been in the ground for a few weeks. And you said you do 05:46 a herbicide treatment. You didn't have to hit it with as much herbicide this time because you had cultivated this ground. So your weed pressure wasn't 05:52 as great, correct. Well, it's just according to the year, you know, if you if it's warming in and we got moisture and you're getting rains you're gonna have that flash of hand 06:01 be it and the winter weeds is gonna be coming. So, you know, it's just kind of according to the year what you got if we to work it up being in a dress fail. We wouldn't had any weeds. We'd 06:10 wait a little longer because it wouldn't have you know, we wouldn't we wouldn't have any Wheat pressure? Yeah, because you've been past the weed you've been passing termination. So the stuff you 06:19 start you're gonna do a burn down prior to wheat, you're gonna do a burn down or you're gonna diss it up one of the other you may do both at some points, but you're gonna have have some 06:28 kind of work in it, you know, some kind of shot prior to planning and the stuff that you would put in even though we pressure wasn't 06:34 terrible you if you're gonna go across that you say go ahead and 06:37 In some kind of a herbicide and it's something with residual. Yes. It's something that's gonna be well for that was that was really the main 06:43 reason we're going across it and then we added to other stuff to it. You know, it's really what it was. Yeah, you're 06:49 making sure that you've got adequate amount of coverage to give you into Frost season the past week germination. So 06:55 something that has residual in the soil. Do you mind tell us what the product was? Well like say we was using we was using zijuana 07:01 and you a couple more products as well. I don't remember what the other two was and then in the tank on that in the tank on that things giving pass. You said you 07:10 had a plant growth regulator and that's for what purpose? Root stimulation. Okay, and then so herbicide 07:17 plant with regulator nitrogen. Nope, no nitrogen that we had it. We had a micro pack which had a shot in it, but we had a micro pack root stimulant. 07:26 We had a sugar in there and we had a sea cat some kind of humic a buffer a softener in there as well. Okay. And is 07:35 that been standard practice or is that what you came to the conclusion this year you needed to do because you had a different mix last year at your roughly Thanksgiving 07:44 pass. Yeah, so, you know every year we kind of molded feed it to what fertility program we might have done, you know, or what we're going to do, you know, whether it was litter or 07:53 whatever but this year that's I mean we got most of those things in it. We hadn't been putting in the The root stimulant we hadn't been doing that me and Temple 08:03 talk about doing that. He'd been doing that. So we tried that and also we had that we had that preexor in their Temple. 08:09 Yeah, what's the pre-ex order? Fun just said got it. And so you need to find aside in your November past 08:17 now, we're gonna come back to you and talk about what you're doing right now because as again we're recording this around Christmas time, but something has 08:23 been a month since you've been in your field. I want to talk simple Temple. Let's take us from wheat planting till today. What you when you play what you've 08:32 done. So our our planning differences between me and Chad and Chad can correct me if I'm wrong. I plan a lot earlier. We're it 08:42 gets colder here fast her. I'm trying to make as many tillers as I possibly can. You know, we all talk about this Channel 9 all of us, you know, 08:51 we figure about 75% of those full tillers is what it aids to that yield. You know, when you're talking a high-end high yield and we I 09:00 need them to tiller as much as I can. So up here where it's a little bit colder. So I start planting back September 20th 25th 09:09 is when we'll start and I want to be done by the 15th through the 20th of October. I don't want to go much later than that 09:18 because we can't get it up and I can't get it tailored out good enough where I'm comfortable always our earlier 09:26 playing stuff always does a lot better for us. I think that Chad you correct me if I'm wrong. Do you? 09:33 Can't later because you can't handle all that. You stay warm a lot longer. So doesn't your stuff go. I mean it'll race almost 09:42 joining if you're not careful on it. Yep. That's that's the problem we get into you know, we don't that's I think that's love the problem in the South one. We can't grow really good Wheaties. We don't 09:51 have the same winter every year. We don't have that date. We're just kind of shuts down who guys from from the wheat 09:57 wager when first and second and you just said two guys from the south can't grow a good week. Yeah. Matt miles had a hundred and one 10:07 bushel, we in the wheat wager and he's in the morning 121 over 17. Okay. Okay Lee was 10:17 a hundred. Okay. Okay, 120 why those hundred ones 121 bushel wheat? And so yeah, I'd say you can get done. So Temple 10:27 your thing is you went out and plant with again. When did you plant? Sometime between September 20th through the 10:34 middle of October. Let's say okay right now the person that you know, if you're old enough, you've been told your whole life about the fly free date fly free date. You 10:43 can't go out there until the fly free day. I was told this is what I tell I was what everybody I won't say Northeastern Indiana. 10:49 I know about the fly free date when I was like 12 years old and I said, why aren't we planting wheat the neighbors are because the fly free days not 10:55 so October 8th. I remember knowing that I think that's exactly what's supposed to be. You're not supposed to plant wheat until then you just October 5th here and 11:04 I tell everybody the same thing. I ain't seen him yet. I ain't gonna worry about him now the man's October 20th. Yeah. And so you did say 11:13 though Chad that you would you would an ideally go from October 20th over fifth you are at hearing to the fly free day. Well, I don't know if I'm hearing you. I don't know. He just kind of coincidence when 11:22 I get ready go for you. So simple went out a full two weeks before the fly free day and he has a 11:31 Them so you planted this in about a two-week window. And I mean how many acres a week we're talking about well. 11:39 Oh Tampa. Go ahead people. Stop cutting in. We're not talking to you right now Chad. I'm sorry. I mean, I'm only I'm only around 1500. 11:49 Well, that's plenty because a lot of people, you know a lot to a lot of people we is just something you do if you need to like put 11:55 in drainage tile or something. So we're talking about this is an actual you look at wheat and you know, I think was doing my father 12:01 calls it a poor man's crap. That's what he told me. I think that if people actually looked at we the way they look at corn they'd be impressed at how 12:11 much they and that's one of our reasons for doing the wheat wage or was what if we actually didn't just look at this as something to go, you know 12:17 in between stuff and that's how you look at. Well, I'm glad that you said that Damian because there's a lot of Truth in that, 12:23 you know, they're both grass crops and This is a lot of my program a lot of will Chad and I are talking about you know, some of these extra things. It's almost 12:32 the exact same protocol that we follow on on corn. Isn't that right? I'd agree with it, you know because that's that's where we 12:42 got this from, you know, it's talking about the uptake and it's the grass crop and and we're gonna push her push some 12:48 things late like we did on our corn and it's gonna get real interested. Yeah. Oh good. It's gonna get good. So Temple you told me 12:57 around and you said a little bit ago. You said you go with the philosophy when you see the row it's time to go. I wrote that 13:03 I like that because emerges and so what two to two weeks to three weeks after you've got it don't you see that it you're now 13:12 looking out there and you're seeing one to three inch wheat plants. Yeah, so we're so what we're trying to do is I got one to three 13:18 inch wheat plants. So what I'm trying to do is I'm trying to promote as much killer in as I possibly can 13:24 get out there. I'm trying to promote as much root growth as I can because I'm wanted to overwinter better. I 13:30 want those thought Taylor that is to my yield. I want that root growth to make me over winter a little bit better. So we use the same thing. The only thing 13:39 That I do maybe a little bit different than he does. We'll put like a 25-15. Oh with some software in 13:45 it, maybe a few minor elements and then we'll add a micro pack to that as well and we'll spray that 13:51 over the top but it's the same thing. It's a humic. It's a sugar. It's a micro pack or micro pack will be something. Well, 13:58 the one that I use specifically is one for magnets Sports to charge product. And the reason I use it because it's a high phosphorus product that I can get it right into 14:07 that plant right away. Throw me some energy make something make some difference is we're putting let's say well I 14:13 went through this again micro pack the micro pack product. That's what's got contains. The AG Explorer or this is an addition. 14:19 That is the AG export that the micro pack that I'm using is the AG explorers product and it's called charge. It's 14:25 a high phosphorus blend and you talked about your fertility is a 25 15. Oh with yeah some salt first and then a 14:34 secant or a carbon. What's the sea cats and a human? Over here mix it's a hammock. Yeah, and you're doing a similar thing. 14:43 Yeah doing a similar thing. We also ate a sugar the sugar that I use is octane. I don't know which one Chad. Did you switch the system use? Yeah, would you 14:52 yeah on on this on this load. I think we used. I don't remember. I don't remember which sugar I was jumping in either. I'm gonna use a mmts sugar from Teva or 15:02 I'm going to use a Sweet Success or I'm gonna use something, you know equivalent to that whatever we've got there. That's that needs to be run through God. That's really 15:11 good either. She was sugar or Sweet Sweet Success comes from concept accurate concept everything. All right. Hey real 15:18 quick Temple. Did you put her beside in your mix or is it past by the time you go out there? And that would have been based on when you said that you've been doing this mid to 15:27 late out. We're somewhere between October. No, I'm Halloween always see we have a problem with rye grass. 15:34 So and I think everybody across country that grows. We will have a problem was Progressive. You ain't got it yet, but you will have it digital takes that that out. So there is a 15:43 herbicide in it. And then again we put reacts or in that same mix so it is kind of a hot mix 15:52 Do we do you want to know why we put pre-axle on because somebody's gonna tell us that we're idiots for putting fungicide on plants that are just barely 16:01 out of the ground. You want to go over that but just a second in the rate. Yeah, I think the one question would be you can see 16:10 where Chad might need it because he's got a few more weeks where it's kind of what you think is fungicide weather. It's kind of damp. It's 16:16 getting grayer days. It could and you'd say yeah, I could see there's moisture hanging around but you're saying wait a minute clear up in Maryland by the time you get in November, aren't you 16:25 having hard Frost doesn't that mean that the plants can I mean I would the average person. I think you don't have a fungus problem that I mean, let me start with it. Let me start with 16:34 this. So and then let it so Temple. Yeah my own do this and I was like man, I don't know. I just really don't have that much out there. Okay, but that 16:43 much. Is what it takes so he told me this and I so I went full pledge with it this year, but that what you always see is when 16:53 you start scouting a week in the fall. It'll be like well, we got just a little bit of this or we got just a little bit of that 16:59 but ain't really enough to spray after but we've got some disease there and all that disease is winter and over you know, and all that corn father that we put on the ground 17:08 and so it's gonna jump on the first thing that comes up and that's your wheat and you know me and Temple talk about I said man that would clear up a lot of things that I have that aren't really 17:17 enough to go after but I'm already making that trip and you know the rate that he'll talk about here is is the 17:26 reason and in doing it. Yeah, so you're talking about fungicide Chad makes a smart point there, you know. Oh, we just 17:34 have just a little bit. Well just a little bit is yield off-setting and if it's just enough this and 17:40 there's nothing just enough to offset yield. What do you think? I mean if you first off how much money you talking about Chad. I 17:46 can you're putting a fungicide in that sees that that treat me you did like a Thanksgiving is it is it one of those things like even a fungus isn't 17:55 an issue. We know that wheat's biggest problem is rusts and you know, those kinds of things like said, I'm only Temple ramp up on that but the biggest thing is you're 18:04 talking about with we're looking at root stimulant. We're starting off trying to get to plant up and going we're trying to get it to winter. So it's all about plant health. 18:14 So Temple go ahead on it it simple before you tell us about help before you tell us about plant. I want to can we and so my mute him and 18:23 somebody mute that I cannot get going. Go brother tell us about hey, tell us about your Fungicide and why you do it. 18:33 So let's back it are we telling the whole story? I guess I tell them the whole story. That's how we get to it. So here's the backstory. So a few years back quite a 18:42 few years back when preacts were it wasn't even out yet buddy of mine from BASF took trip across country across seeds and he was looking at 18:51 high yielding wheat, one of the things he came back with was this product and he brought me this product and he said I want you to use it on wheat when 19:00 it first likes the ground. I want you put fungicide on I'd laugh at them. I'll see crazy. Well, I did it and it was a big bump 19:09 and yield right to the road and I was like man what is going on here? I just couldn't I couldn't wrap my head around it. 19:18 But I said, okay, I'm all in so the very next year we we they come out with pre-axle, you know, that's his first year out, you know, so they come out with it 100% of 19:27 my Acres. I believe in it after that test that I did. I'm like, yep. I'm all in put it on 100% of the Acres very next year goes by 19:36 put on 100% of my Acres. My my green broker calls me and how the blue and he said hey, what are you doing? That's different 19:45 than all the other farmers in your area. I said man, nothing all the farms in my area are awesome. Why like I have a hard time keeping up to them. He was 19:54 like no. Your your Fallen numbers are better your bomb levels, which is you know, your head scab numbers. They're lower. What 20:04 are you doing different than they are because I buy from Green from farmers in your area all the time. And we're having to blend your 20:13 stuff all your stuff in and blend it out because the bomb numbers and the following numbers were really bad. It's particular year. 20:21 And he said I actually went back to the previous year and I looked at it as well. And it was the same thing on all your 20:27 your numbers and the past year and I set up and and it never dawned on messen it I said, you know, there's nothing that I'm doing at 20:36 the farmers in this area are not doing and then it dawned on me. I thought holy crap. Is that pre-axward trip which that's 20:45 on her up? Nobody does that and I'm thinking is that pre Acts were trip actually working like that. We'll come to find out it is and here's why so we talked 20:54 about the stove over, you know, let's use irrigated corn. For instance. She had 250 to 300 bushel corn 21:00 and you want to follow it in with wheat, you know Chad. Does it all the time and you work up all those stalks and you're creating a hot bed of 21:10 Fungus, you know, and then we're gonna go in there and we're gonna plan our weed in it and then we're gonna think everything's okay. Well that pathogen needs 21:19 a new host. Well that new host. Guess what it is. It's your wheat plant and Chad's right, you know, I got something out there 21:28 but it ain't enough. Well, guess what? It's just enough to keep going and make it worse and come spring. You 21:34 got a whole nother problem and not that you can't go in in the spring and take it out and and control it and clear it up and cure it. 21:44 But the damages are already done. You know, Kelly says it all the time. We've never seen a stress corn plant non-stress corn plant. We've never 21:53 seen that so, you know, it's the same thing. It's a grass crop. We've never seen it be stress-free. So If you start off the year completely clean by cleaning 22:04 up what Stover's out there clean up any pet anything that got on to your your weed plant right out of the gate you enter the the Greenup in 22:13 the spring really clean off to a good start root structures. Great. The plants are in good health, everything's off to a good start. And 22:22 now when we go in with this next pass that we're getting ready to talk about you've got a different plant that can uptake things much differently because it 22:31 doesn't have a lesion on it or it doesn't have a problem. You're you're talking about a completely different animal and I think that's why we're 22:40 saying the benefit and the bonus is out of this thing. about the rate Temple So, um, I don't even use a full 22:49 rate. They were they were telling me to cut the rate in half. So instead of pre-action was normal rate is four ounces and 22:55 we're doing all this and getting all this control with only two ounces. 22:59 So, you know you're talking about half the cost that would you would think that you would get but the reason for that is is one, you know, you're you you 23:08 don't enough damage to the fungus by you know, destroying this over and working it up doing all that stuff. And then you got a very very small plant that can really really respond to 23:17 two ounces versus four. So it's half the money so why wouldn't you do it? Like there's it makes no sense not to do it. 23:29 Okay. All right. Let's go ahead and then with what I needed help when you talk one when he back up one more time, 23:35 and let's see what let's talk about the what you started with on fertility prior to planting. 23:41 Because I'm having to increase my nitrate what temp temple you want to give what you start with you whether it's litter or two tons 23:47 litter or whatever. We don't we can't apply that much do it or nutrient management plan. What we'll do is we'll spread I when I 23:56 go over to top, you know with that first mix we're putting like a 25 15. Oh right over the top 24:02 that's part of what you know, I'm putting on as liquid and then we'll spread will dry spread somewhere 24:08 between 80 and 120 pounds. Okay on that dry, and then we'll run with that and then or fertility comes in in the spring. So when the Sprint 24:20 when the first spring comes around the first green upset sets in that's when we start we will spoon feed our 24:26 fertility all throughout the year. So only thing I really front load is just okay, that's all I do. So, so that's that's why I was 24:35 a little different when he's done that well, we put a little bit naturally and stuff like that. So we front load we started out and with 24:40 Dry lands, if we don't use two-ton litter if we can get litter we'll use litter. Okay, if we can't get litter we're going to use we was about a 25 24:49 pounds and then I thought that I was low low and with a 30 and now I'm up to 35 pound of nation in a urea form and it all in dry and under my 24:58 irrigated. I'll be somewhere around a 60 60 because I want to make more beans and it's the only shot I'm gonna make so my double crops are not getting any fertilizer. They're running off this wheat 25:07 fertilizer. So on my irrigate side, I'll be like a 35 60 60 and then you know, I'm loving some k-max. So 25:13 I'll put a hundred pound of cake Maggie on top of that which will be at 22 11, you know, five and a half. Hey quickly real quickly. 25:22 You just said something. So on, you know, Matt calls them wheat beans double crop, you know 25:28 beans going after wheat, which is more common where you are. That is the further north you go because of the Season you run out of season. You just say that you're you're fertility program on 25:37 your wheat is so strong that your soybeans then essentially. Are just benefiting their fertility their 25:43 fertility treatment already happened with the wheat? Yeah, my double crop beans. This is where we making the money. I just where you know, you know, they don't like the double crop 25:52 part of it. A lot of people don't but my double crop Bean program doing start to finish won't be over 120 bucks 25:58 hundred and ten dollars and that's why we're talking about well, I can't make the 20 bushel beans. It don't matter. I'm still making money. Yeah, so you're saying that 120 bucks 26:07 on all the inputs that include seed. Yes. So 120 dollars an acre. It's like I found money because you know, once you get past 10 bushels of 26:16 soybeans you're in you're in the green. Yeah, so and it spreads are wind out, you know, we're locked in the first ever, you know, we're gonna get a hot dry 26:25 spell so or if we plant beans early, it may be early or maybe late on the back side of it. But anyway, I hadn't got all my eggs in one basket on my soul being program. And so we'll 26:34 start there with a 35, you know, my regular ground and be like a 35 40 with 50 pound a you know, and so that'll put 26:43 me in there any anywhere with what I had to buy this time. I'm Between 90 and 115 dollars 26:49 an acre bam in my fertility program then I'll come back. I guess we can switch gears now a temple you got any more on. 26:56 the startup Okay, you pretty much we I think we covered the the start we ought to jump over to our our 27:03 association started right there and then we went to the first day. Yeah. So but anyway, the good news is the listener that really 27:11 cares and I think we're gonna call this. What's the next step on we I really think that we might end up titling this episode treating wheat, 27:18 like corn or more importantly treating it like it's not a bee crop or this not a redhead. Yeah, because what did 27:24 temples old man? What do they say? He called it. He teasing me all time and tells me it's a poor man's crap. But when 27:30 we so some twelve dollar wheat last year. He really he quit telling me that again you go and put you put a hundred bushels out there. You solved it. That's what 27:39 I'm saying. And and you're obviously you're you're inputs are less. So anyway, um, so so then 27:46 we'll fire up and Stewart's the same way, you know Stewart's going to Market this week planning on me having good falling 27:52 numbers, but I know me having good protein numbers. I mean, it's not yeah. Yeah. Well a bunch of it will go to to feed you know, or or in 28:01 use will be in the chickens or whatever but a lot of it will all so the big money if you will. Now we'll take every bit we can to the flyer Mill. That's 28:11 where your money's at. So that's when you that's where that's where we do the same thing. We we broke her through a green broker. 28:17 We do a hundred percent to the flour mill. We're guarantee flour milk quality. Yeah. Yeah, and 28:23 and that's a whole different animal right there. So that's what takes us we're gonna talk about 28:29 five treatments across our week. That's why not counting. The first one we just went the first one with the herbicide the fertilizer up 28:35 front that didn't count. So if we're if we leave this and we go to the next one, we're looking at a the first nitrogen pace. 28:43 You know where I'm at now and second which We call we call Green at Greenup. Yep. Yep and say mine still green. Like I'm still green right now it hey, yes, 28:53 you're not doing it. Like he's gonna wait temples go away until we get to like March, you know, when it's what starts getting warmer longer days and and there's 29:02 some time the goal here is to be finished before flag League. Okay, so you really take the most out of it. Let's take the month thing out of it. Let's see talk 29:11 about stages, you know where we're you know, and leave we definitely not gonna start talking about fees. We I ain't going down that 29:17 road. But but unless you want to go down there for some stage and soybeans. Yeah. Yeah. It's like I'm I I can't do it. I don't 29:26 think I can do it, you know, but but we'll we'll get it when will come in here between any time. 29:32 After the first year and I'll put me 15 Gallons on. So 15 gallons to 28% That'll get my soul for in there and then we'll talk about putting in what else 29:42 we need. You know, we'll try to pull if we can catch it warm for four five days. I like to pull tissue sample prior to that, 29:48 you know if we can get some weather to pull them. If not, we just hashtag send it. It's all gonna do. 29:54 Your second treatment doesn't have a lot in it. It's it's pretty it's all fertility, you know, 30:00 you're not worth about her beside at that point because it's it's unless unless we need to fix some escapes, but I really do not like 30:07 to use a herbicide in my fertilizer program, you know, I mean either same thing and you need it you need to talk about that. So what yeah, that's something that needs 30:16 to be said and I was gonna say it earlier. He just said it we don't like to use herbicide in the fertility. 30:24 And here's the reason why when you add that chemistry pass and you put it in with your your nitrogen, you know, 30:33 whether it's 28005 or whatever. I don't care what you do. You're going to get some kind of burn and when you atomize that fertility with that 30:42 chemistry, you're going to have some type of residual burn that is going to affect and everybody's like and if you I've heard a million 30:51 times man, don't worry about that. It'll come out of it. You're right. It will come out of it. But when it comes out of it, it's gonna pull some yield and nobody wants 31:00 to believe that but it's a hundred percent true any chat. Yep. It's a hundred percent true and and everything will put with it. 31:06 You know, we're always gonna have some kind of humic red and with this fertilizer Pace, you know, whatever you want to use. You know, 31:12 we are just gonna be seek it. You know, that's that's what we're gonna use and it's gonna ride ride to ride on it, 31:18 you know, so but it's mainly just that and now we're gonna get into the boron. We can start chopping able. Okay, let's tell 31:28 him what let's tell him what we do on our first pay. So the first thing that first president your first pass me. This is 31:37 my first pass in early enough in this in the yes. Yeah fertility in the spring. I would call it in the spring. So let's just call it 31:46 second pass of the Year. This would be this would be in Greenup. Remember that Temple can't do certain things where he's at in that Watershed that he's 31:55 in you know, that's right. I'm good. I can put fertilizer out during the winter. I don't have that problem. Obviously with the Chesapeake Bay situation. You're limited on 32:05 how much you can use and amounts over time. Yeah, so we're limited to timing and we're limited to amounts. So what we 32:15 do is is once we get our everything done in in the fall. This is what I call my first spring pass at Greenup. 32:23 First thing I'm going to tell you is if you want to make money on something and you want to guarantee payback go 32:29 get yourself six stream nozzles from Pentair and I promise you they're gonna pay you back and you start streaming this first fertilizer pass 32:38 on please just don't put it on with flood yet or anything else you tones. Yeah, 32:48 man, I'm telling you it is when you want to talk about Like that, really? Oh my God, it's night and day it completely will change 32:59 your world now. Hey, wait should real quick to the person that says and you mentioned pintar one of our business, you know Partners to the person. That's a 33:09 sprayer, you know, novice. What why did that? Why does that matter? This is a streamer nozzle and what it looks 33:17 like. It's six streams. They come out it looks just like to shower head in your bathroom. And that's how it's putting out fertilizer. So basically what happens is is it's binding 33:27 the fertilizer so it gets directly to the ground so it can pull it up through the roots because you can't put that kind of lude a fertility 33:36 and apply it on top of that plant. It's got to get to the dirt. So you don't want to burn the dirt or burn the leaves. Yeah only 33:45 way to the dirt as much as you can and it won't burn, you know, if you just straight no on a solid stream it won't burn and 33:54 no. Yeah. Well you think about people listen we got people are listening saying I don't know I use pretty much the same sprayer nozzle everything I do. 34:04 I don't know what the difference is that you just explain. That's why I wonder because you're putting out of the Mist or if it's got too fine to drop. Let's fertility prices 34:10 go hang around on the leaf or evaporate off. It ain't gonna get where it needs to do the This is the reason why a lot of people put drown that's 34:17 reasonable out there now just blow out your yeah and you know a hundred pound of urea and that's 46 units, you know, and they'll blow that out and there's nothing wrong with that. We make good 34:26 week doing it. Sometimes when it gets muddy with put on the airplane and if we do will you know, we're just blow out a hundred 34:32 pound airplane made really good week doing that. Well, I've never say a better week than when I did when I changed to the you know, the streamer nozzles 34:43 is what I call them. That was a big deal for for us. So what we'll put in that first blend. First of all, I wanted to tell you six stream nozzle tips. 34:52 It's not you know, I've used the streamer bars before the problem with the streamer bars is you know, you go down the edge of the 35:01 woods wouldn't fold it up. They ripped the whole thing off. They break their expensive. This tip is no 35:07 different than any tips that you already got on there the durable they they work nice. So that's first thing is 35:13 my suggestion. So this is what goes in that we're gonna run a 28 double O five and we're gonna put accomplish in 35:19 it. We used to always you're on accomplish Allen. Now, we're gonna be running an accomplished Max. The reason is we're getting a little bit of 35:28 biology out there. We're gonna make the nutrients uptake. We're gonna eat a human to that. We're gonna sugar to 35:34 that and By the test in the trials that I did last year on my first streamer pass in this 35:41 in the spring we added nutriacharge to that and a million that was a difference we talked about that before but the 35:51 trial that I did was 50 acres versus 50 acres and they was I think it was a 18 bushel difference between them two. The only 36:00 thing that I think is, you know, Kelly hit on it the other day. He said neutral charge works better if you got s***** ground, 36:09 that's not exactly what he said, but that's how I took it. And I think in our ground we're inherently 36:17 art. We're inherently low in phosphorus and we can't put on enough phosphorus and I think with adding the neutral storage into that first blend whatever 36:26 for phosphorus was left out there at a very early part and that in that plant's life. It was able to uptake that 36:35 give me some energy. What do we need that time of year? We need energy so we can we can get things starting to get things racing. Hey, you said you used accomplishments and 36:44 you've got probably more experience than anybody with the accomplished product from agerson. I already mentioned them and the ad spot we did for them. What's the purpose in this second treatment? What's 36:53 it for you at this point accomplished Max and friend fertilizer just makes fertilizer in my opinion work better and get to and it makes it available and gets it into the plant 37:02 faster. I really don't know there's you know, there's biology in that. There's some kelp products and stuff like that. That's what the 37:12 max is to accomplish. We did a ton of Trials years ago when accomplished LM came out and it was it 37:20 was so great for us. I don't even trial it anymore. I don't even it it will be in every starter 37:29 or fertilizer liquid fertilizer pass for me forever. As far as I'm concerned. I would not accept the load without 37:38 that in there. How about that? It's You know this whole deal is about availability. Everything we do is about availability. And that's the Target that 37:47 we're targeting when we do that, you know, where's availability and efficiency. It's those two things and 37:53 that's these products are helping us get there. All right your your second treatment you're doing 37:59 here like in the next week Chad. I don't all right. So I got to take back on a pre-exover for what I pay for, you know, 38:07 you know you shop this around or whatever but a four ounce rate is $10 and 60 cents we use half of that so we need two 38:13 outset at five dollars and 30 cents. You don't even need a bushel five dollar five dollars. And so you got people saying you don't need to be putting all that fungicide 38:22 on it's five bucks. And like you said if you got a little bit it's just too much or whatever. Would you say a little a little bits just too much a little bit. Let me let me let me put this 38:31 in the perspective for you. So when we get turned down it cost me 75 cents a bushel thousand bushel Loop 750 38:40 dollars to send it North right to to Flour Mill quality. If I get one load rejected one load, it's gonna cost me that 75 cents 38:49 to bring it back somewhere else order reroute it somewhere else it cost me 750 dollars a loon. Yeah, and the Acres will that do 38:58 Yeah, if I five bucks, yeah, that's one load that that's one load and over, you know, a three or four year time frame that I've 39:07 been using this. I haven't had loads rejected and I know of other Farmers that have a bunch to lose rejected and it's awful. I mean, it's the worst thing ever. That's 39:16 a lot of money. Hey one thing and I got so much and I know we're getting to all our treatments. What about the guy? That's how you're saying? There are no flower mills. This is not for human consumption. I 39:25 can't spend them out of money Chad and Temple do because I'm selling seven dollar and forty Cent. We he's just goes to you know, whatever. It just goes to if he 39:34 doesn't matter because if you have scared and these things that's in your wheat, it it messes with your test weight all that stuff you 39:43 get these little shrunk up stage all that stuff. So they don't want them, which that's 39:49 how his game is it they don't want bomb and feed mill quality either. So you're gonna take a deduction. If you go to just into your feed mill, okay? 39:58 great, excellent answer All right, Chad. Hit me with your first bring up past brother because I'm getting ready down. 40:07 Well take to you I'll text you. All right, he's going he's gonna hold out and say it's proprietary. All right. 40:16 He doesn't I mean get man. Well, I'm just kidding. He shares everything. I'm nothing. I was just playing on that one. I feel 40:25 like Temple gives more to me than I give to him. All right. So our first one our first one is usually pretty simple, you know, it's it's 40:34 like him talk about it's gonna be a sugar it's gonna be Boron and and reason it's gonna be born on this stage just 40:40 because we're trying to push that number up where we don't have to try to slam dunk it up, you know, and then we're 40:46 talking about how to use it with a sprayer. So we're trying to keep it our lows where they're simple and not having to put on, you know, 40:52 a gallon or a half a gallon or quart, you know, we're putting on maybe a quart. You know, let's say we're putting them 10% That'll be a quarter of a pound or something like that. But 41:01 we're gonna put in there on this deal. Will you solve your a lot and that'll hate us with, you know, we'll put out a half pound. It's gonna be a half a pound in 41:10 it and that makes on this trip so half potable run. We're gonna put a quarter seed cut in we're gonna put 41:18 A bag of sugar because that's gonna work out pretty good. And then we're gonna put our nation in. Nitrogen on this fertility on this fertility pass 41:28 is just another spoon feeding of nitrogen Chen. Now this is well. This is not a spoon baby. This is a 45 units. It's 15. It's 15 gallon. Okay, 41:37 so so ain't that right Temple, that'd be 45. That's three. Right four example, I'll go around 30 or 35. So 41:46 I'm a little bit less Chad explain to everybody why you put humic in your in your every language every I understand it's every 41:55 load. But but tell them why this is what again a softener. Yes, it's a safer for 42:03 the sugar for the salt. Should I just said sugar for the salts to not burn yet. We're again it's back 42:09 to what we talked about before anytime that we can buffer everything and and literally have no hurt to 42:18 the plant whatsoever is what we're trying to do. So we're going one. It's a softener another it 42:24 helps with availability. It's just a cushioner. It's a access. It's a highway it starts helping bring all this stuff together is what we're doing with that. 42:33 You know, when the sugar again is another softener. This is a this is just building up what the 42:39 fertilizers made to do. And it makes fertilizer more efficient is what we're doing here. And so remember we got 42:45 to end up, you know, you're you're numbers May Vary, but you know, you have your in number in mind. Okay. What's your 42:51 Nationals? We're gonna talk about nature meaning, you know, because it's like the Holy Grail, you know, Kelly talk about, you know, the holy grail and 42:57 I was growing core. The Holy Grail is is Her ammonia natural, I mean a nation or anhydrous. Yep, you know, you won't make more corn just 43:06 put more in Hydra cylinder put more natural, right? So but that ain't exactly the case with wheat, we got to make enough just enough where 43:12 we don't mash it flat, you know, so we don't want it to be but it's got to be again in the right form. So we don't we gonna think about how much you want out. Let's say do 43:21 we want a hundred fifteen hundred twenty you're gonna get balls and let's go to 135 40 units out there Temple, you 43:27 know, so, you know, mine is gonna be on my ever almost makers. I'm gonna end up in that hundred and twenty five range units is 43:36 where I'm going to end up we're talking about. However, you want to come about I'm with us urea 32 28 24 43:43 It still got to come up with a solid number of you. So this is the place you 45. So I was 35 with dry. Then I'll 43:49 be 45 here. So I'm sitting here at what's that 80? Yeah. You said 35 and 45? Yeah. Yep. So I'm sitting here 43:58 around 80 right now. Is where I'm at and that's the first one that's in the first January. I got 80 units on. 44:04 Okay. Well, yeah see I'm a little bit lower. I'm putting I put 25 down early and now I'm gonna 44:10 put down 30 to 35. So I'm a little lower than than what he is because I'm Gonna Keep spoon feeding it out. Like 44:19 every you know, you know through every couple little stages. I'm gonna spoon feed and I'm gonna go back and I'm gonna 44:25 hit it again, which he is as well. Yeah, so we're going so what you is that you good right there table. We're gonna talk about the next one. 44:33 Yeah, um, I want to I want to yes, go ahead talk to wait until we just did our those are both and and so the person listening no matter 44:42 where they are for North Dakota. We're saying you do this is what you do at the what you call your green up which even 44:48 though that's not necessarily true for Chad because he doesn't ever really go dormant as much as we do. Yeah, and we 44:54 have to move this around Damian because we don't know where this things if they don't show down I am I'm gonna have to pull the reins back on if we have a warm day samber, I'm 45:03 gonna be pulling these reins back trying to stretch yourself because this week's trying to get too much legs under you know, yes, you 45:09 you could you could do too much too soon. And what's the danger of that Chad and and it's gonna collapse. It's 45:18 gonna Lodge with us. And then remember this remember this I just come off of a corn crop. That some of my corn ground was Zero. 45:29 So what did it what happened with all that available nitrate out there and all that that we didn't use up. It's hanging around. So just 45:35 no heading into this first one. You're okay with this first shot to use it. But you may want to push it back a couple weeks. You 45:41 really need to check that weather and watch what's going on. We made it. We really need to pull if you can get any weather report 45:47 tissue sample. We need to tissue sampled in front of this see where our numbers are at because we may need to be that we pull this one back some 45:53 and and we just kind of soften it and watch it and watch it watch it. And then we may just hit it with one. That's 25 gallon 45:59 from that residual nature and we had left over, you know, so it's definitely guessing game in this period about how much 46:05 nitrate to use and how quick to use it with and that's gonna be on a Farm by Farm basis and a pre-crop whether it was soybeans or corn and what that yield was 46:14 prior to this week planning. It's a lot of variables that go into this right here. Hey Temple, is that more of an issue for him because he's in the South where it doesn't have a hard water. We 46:23 don't like hard. Yeah. Okay it is It that's a that is a great statement that is of more of a South thing 46:35 because where we are. Our first application become becomes at March first because we're not allowed to apply anything prior 46:43 to March 1st. So when we hit March first, I mean We're Off to the Races we're trying to push push push because as it's warning 46:52 warming up, we're trying to get everything out there all the way to the end so we can reach the end where he's going 46:58 the other way. I'm trying to push and shove it as hard as I can. He's like, whoa, hold up. I need to 47:04 pull back a little bit. You know, you're getting to joining too fast or the crops getting too thick or you know, 47:10 I mean like he's gonna have to pull back or me. I need to show this Horrors. I can't yeah. Well, it's just as a simple function of we get more of a door the further north you 47:19 go the more dormant period yeah because of the weather, right? Yeah our grounds completely froze right now. Yeah, so 47:25 so here we are on that stage and we picked around and we looked at it and we made it through. You know, we've made it through that one. So let's let's hit one more. Okay the 47:34 next time I'll go into feel it's gonna be the same. Exact thing but then we're gonna start looking also and men and both of these treatments. Remember if check 47:43 and Scout for aphids. This is a good time to put a little bit of insecticide in and clean up some aphids out there as well. 47:51 So the next one will be the same thing. The next one needs to be just prior to flag leads. I don't miss just 47:57 like corn. You've got you women you like you left that you left that you let's back up Chad. You not do 48:04 a chemistry pass in there because on me after my first one with my streamers. And I stream my fertilizer and put all those 48:13 stuff in there. My next pass. I'm doing a chemistry pass with Street water. Nope. 48:20 So you don't even do a chemistry pass so my next pass. I'm not doing fertility. My next one is a chemistry pass. That's where I'm going 48:31 to put in harmony that keeping out my you know, onions and garlic chickweed that 48:37 kind of stuff. It takes care of that. I'm also gonna put in there. I'm gonna put a shot of pre-axle in there. That's my shot where I'm gonna put reacts we're 48:46 in because remember I flip my nozzles now and I'm not streaming anymore. Now, I'm gonna spray. Yep. So I did all that. That's what I'm doing 48:55 in this first shot. So your first shot you're not using streamers. I am no. No, I mean when I say 49:03 first shot I'm saying first herbicide pass all the way back into front that's cleaning up my weeds. That's cleaning up all that. He did his he did all that, too. I'm doing 49:12 it again. Yeah, I'm gonna wait I cleared it up. So which answers he doesn't even Chad says Center Chad says, he 49:19 doesn't need a second herbicide treat. So we're so where are you Chad asking a question? 49:25 Where are you gonna be putting some insecticide in and some fungicide in? with the first pass on my flag 49:35 lead That's my birthday. I'm way before that. So after I put on my you know with this is where I'm gonna whip your ass, 49:46 that's right here watch this podcast. This is a Front right here. Look front roast. Yeah. Well I'm getting 49:56 next to yeah, okay. All right. So hey, let's take this this is where we gonna keep it going along here. This is where we need to put this podcast off and we'll smile 50:05 present dad doesn't do Chad doesn't do a second herbicide round at least not at this point Temple does just by 50:11 the way. If you do do a second one right here, it's because I miss something the first go around we had some escapes. We may 50:19 have to make a trip around the field for some rye grass, you know, something like that is the only reason I'll make one now. Okay now now here's 50:25 the thing the to like when temples now, he's done his one at Greening and he's doing another one like what are we talking a month after the the one after Greening? Hell 50:34 no, I won't even make it a week by time. I roll through the whole crap. I'm gonna turn right back around and go back to where I started at flip my tips and I'm 50:43 gonna run my same track. So I'm going right. He said tips listeners. He said flip my tips. Anyway. Hey quickly. 50:49 Um Temple, I got a question for you. This is a silly one the average wheat producer plants it and then maybe hits it once and you're 51:01 talking about what five treatments Yeah, we're going to go at least five takes me five, but you guys are going with five times question for you. 51:10 Are you trying to then go in the exact same tracks? Because once you've given overall, it's not a big thing. You start going over five times. You obviously were 51:19 your sprayer tires are you know, that's a lot of knocking down. So you go you basically try to stay in the same route. We'll stay 51:25 the we'll keep did you see rut I'm sorry path. You don't go out there. You're not creating us. Yeah, you know, you're not creating ruts. You're not creating ruts. Yeah, we'll stay. We'll stay in 51:34 the same one. Yeah, and we'll stay in the same ones and as we get as the week gets taller, we'll put fenders on the sprayer 51:42 to keep that that tire from as we going down. It's going through there to not pull those extra, you know the top of the heads down or the top of the plant town 51:51 because it will Rip on them somewhat. Yep. Okay. Mmm. Alright your next pass, uh, Chad or 51:59 let Chad go first and I'll tell you what I do with my oh, so yeah, this is what it so it's really our fourth time. Now, we're talking 52:08 about this our fourth time going over third. This will be three three. This will be number three. So so number one was my 52:14 I cleaned up my herbicide put all my stuff. Okay. Number two was my first national pass. 52:21 Is what it was number three is my second National Pace. Um, and and so, you know, just let's say last year 52:28 I got in a deal where I had to come in here and plant some wheat late. We had really good prices. So on my first 52:34 pass I put the full Lowdown. Because my weight was so small like Temple was talking about I needed to speed up my joint my my 52:42 tillers and I was already late but January I'm late on my Taylor's mobile. We was still growing but I went on to put the whole load out on the first one. So if you ever get in a situation 52:51 where hey I picked up a farm late man. I really need to put some weed on it. Don't be worried about going on planting it. I mean with wheat prices why they are you know, 70 Bush away to 53:00 still making money. Yeah, so just turn around and just for the coals to it quicker and let's get this stuff going. All right back to what I first said. This is 53:09 the third pass. It's gonna be the same way again. We're gonna check make sure we ain't gonna wait it's because we're gonna drop some insecticiding 53:15 and right there. This will be that finishing round wherever we was at it maybe anywhere from 15 to 25 gallon of 28 because then we've 53:24 come through the back side. We kind of got a good handle on it. We're coming out of the back side of this is right prior 53:30 to flag life. So we're coming into this green up. We know where the plant is, then we can kind of pour the coals to 53:36 it. Worries back. It may be as low as 10 gallon. You know I said I didn't make a bunch of corn it'll be maybe as high 53:42 as 25 gallon. It's according to where what we need to get a plant what it needs to finish it out. and you don't have the same things any just be real 53:52 simple, you know see Cats sugars pop possibly insecticide and what else that we label a while ago Boron Boron Boron. Oh, 54:03 we're trying to keep it always boring only. Yeah, Chad Chad puts Boron like on his toast. I mean the guy loves Boron. So here's the 54:12 thing it fixes erectile dysfunction, but there was no boron in the very first treatment was it 54:21 No, no. Okay. All right. What are you laugh at Temple? All right, we know sophomore, you know on cures. All right, sophomore humor. I can sell 54:30 you more about the bed. All right simple now, you've copied off a Chad. What are you doing on this next treatment? 54:35 So my next treatment is a chemistry pass so we have onions and garlic up here and if they smell a sniff of onions or garlic 54:44 and yeah like that love yeah bad bad and we have them here bad. So we put the Harmony in or you can use t-square from Loveland. You 54:57 can you can use a bunch of different things. So we'll put Harmony in we'll then we'll put we're gonna put a fungicide in 55:03 I'm still going back for pre-ax or this is my free actual past. I'm going to use three to four ounces. I'm getting closer to the full rate this time. I'm 55:12 gonna put it in a sec aside in case I have to we have any warm weather. I don't want any sex on it. I don't bite marks. I don't want to I don't even want to find one. You won't I 55:21 ain't mad miles and I ain't going out there sweeping and looking for bugs. I just don't want them. But do 55:27 you think you might be wasting money there? Because you're still pretty early two dollars and 25 cents like 55:33 most the Do it for a dollar 20 can't you? I mean you get a yeah, I mean you get you some cheaper and stuff. 55:41 I'm looking at you know, you use a Lambda product. I mean, it's two dollars and 25 cents at the most like you you're not looking at using much you just 55:50 I just like it for insurance and maybe I'm wrong and maybe I'm not doing things right way, but it works for me, you know, so in that past Harmony tracks 55:59 or insecticide. Um, this is where we use a micro pack. So that time of year were the things that were lacking 56:09 of I know that all grass crops including my corn just like my corn on wheat, I'm gonna be low in him. I'm 56:18 gonna be low and magazines. I know I'm gonna be loaded magazines. I know I'm gonna be Lou and magnesium and I know that there's 56:24 some things that we can add to that to help kind of power boost that we're gonna put a little bit of a 56:33 phosphorus product in there was fast what's going to do phosphorus is gonna energize that plan. What is manganese and magnesium do 56:42 those two things are a function of photosynthesis at that time of year. We still have a little bit shorter days. We still were 56:51 not getting as much sunlight so I'm gonna try to Produce. I'm not saying I'm trying to produce sunlight in The Jug because that's not really what I'm trying to do. I'm trying 57:01 to promote that plant to capture as much as it possibly can on every daily every day that we can so that's the reason I I'll 57:10 pick a micro pack to help, you know, try to Put all that things together for me and it may be two or three different ones. You know, the other thing is there's 57:22 to me that you're you've whacked your stuff with herbicide three times now and Chad's at one time. So no, I'm 57:28 only this is only my second chemistry pass. The first one was in the first one was was right after planting and this is my second chemistry pass. Okay, so 57:37 I haven't just I haven't worked out of them. All right. So in this same blend since you want to interrupt again as usual, then we're 57:46 gonna I'm gonna put you know, you can use radiate from Loveland or you can use Mega grow very very similar 57:55 PG hours. They help stimulate the plant the plants very very small. It's extremely vegetative that those two pgr or 58:04 a vegetative pgr. This works well, and that's passed put that in there and then sometimes I'll add you 58:13 know, the sea cat and some type of sugar product. Same thing I'm doing it, you know because there's chemistry in this, you know, 58:22 the humics and the sugars especially the sugar will help get that into that plant and still help buffer. Some of that again Mega grow 58:32 is a herbicide safe or it helps it metabolize that chemistry without setting the plant backwards. So this is 58:41 my chemistry past so that Mega grow we're radiate needs to be in this pass. We're so that's where's your real come from? 58:50 It comes from integrated AG got it. All right integrated egg Solutions Chad. Take us to the next pass right? We're getting along here. But if you want it, 58:59 if you're a listener, you won't let me put my computer. Table talk one more minute. I got to plug my computer up. Okay? Okay, next pass. Here's the thing. If you're listening to this, you're like Gosh guys. You guys 59:09 are already over an hour big deal. If you want to I think the big takeaway here is these guys treat wheat 59:15 like a primary crop. They don't treat like yeah, we'll go stick some wheat out there because we're gonna run some tile drainage. We want to 59:21 wheat to be off in July. No, they treat like a primary crop and it pays off. Are they working their ass off on it? Yeah. Are they 59:27 going over multiple times? Yes, but the big takeaway. I'm already getting here is you want to sell premium weed 59:33 for flower milk quality and get 12 bucks. It's gonna take a little more work, but clearly the payoff. Is there everything we're hearing is the payoff is 59:42 there right? Flour Mill quality back in your your statement up Flour Mill quality generally is somewhere between 59:49 in our area somewhere between 50 and 75 cents more per bushel if you can guarantee Flour Mill quality. So yeah, I'm going 59:58 out here. Yeah, I'm going after that some areas are a little higher than that. But yeah in our area that's about that. Well, yeah Point even if own average 01:00:08 we're talking about I bet you we average it's you know time you make your profit 90 to 100 bushel. You're gonna average say 01:00:14 75 books. Yeah. Yeah, you better marketer than I got. I'm mine marketer and I got a broker it helps me you got you got Stuart. That's well. No, 01:00:23 but the person that says well, wait a minute 75 bucks. You just told me channel. I'm getting 75 more bugs, but I went over that two more times than I would have three more times than I 01:00:32 would have. That's 25 dollars per pass. I just took that that money off the table, but the bigger thing you're pointing us. You just said 90 to 100 bushel wheat 01:00:41 and the average person is probably And you know 7075 so it's not just the margin on the food flower milk quality stand 01:00:49 if you just want to make 70 Bush away and let the airplane blow the you know, I mean I got you know, let it all blow out and you don't have any money in it. That's 01:00:58 fine. It's all about making money here. Yes, but you know, we got to figure out we got to figure out whether whether you need to make really 01:01:04 good week or whether you just need not make wheat, but just don't be in the middle don't have a bunch of money in bad week. Yeah, right. 01:01:10 That's a great point because I just read the numbers if you're making 25 more bushels than the guy that says he's happy making 70, you know 01:01:16 at nine bucks or 225 bucks 245 dollars more per acre. Well, you know, you don't have that much invest in these extra treatments. No well and you're not even in the 01:01:25 extra 75 hours for having Flour Mill quality if you can get it in your area if you can yes, that's important meal. Not only you. All 01:01:34 right? Yes, that's you numbers what you got for us. So where we at now? We're past number four, right? 01:01:41 Wordpace pass number four. That's the good one. So this is when we're going to flick a fake and touch the leaf that does it all. This is the 01:01:51 ear leafing corn. So this is a flag leaf and wheat, it's a same thing. This is where we're gonna meet with them. You 01:01:57 know, just you it's gonna separate me from Temple or man. Oh, I mean me are here, you know, but no, 01:02:09 this is one wheel. I'll take this one 90% of farmers if they're gonna spray anything this is it rat Temple. 01:02:18 Yeah number four is most people's number two. Okay, and what's that? No, so this is gonna be Fungicide this is gonna we're gonna switch 01:02:28 gears here. We're gonna switch gears and we're gonna take off now on our pgrs. We got to switch to I'll switch 01:02:34 to maybe a complex would definitely have octane temples stop. Right? Well definitely have octane in this time. Like I don't even know I don't 01:02:43 I'd have to I need to really sit back a minute, but this is gonna be let's let's just start off. We're definitely gonna have children. Of 01:02:49 course, we're gonna have everything that's in the shed. Yes, literally no that is that is no big right there. Okay, so you're yeah, you're putting this 01:02:58 this fourth this fourth treatment, you're sending everything but the kitchen sink. Well, no, I mean this is the 01:03:04 one we think this one we've got to protect at least so this gonna get a fungicide right? We're gonna get a sugar sugar Source. Yeah, 01:03:10 we're gonna get some octane in it. And we're gonna definitely get in there. We'll get a energized or onward either 01:03:20 one, you know what and then we'll get comment to read go back go back go back that is a pgr that is a reproductive pgr. 01:03:29 Very very important to know that. Yep. The difference between these pgrs are if there's vegetative ones and there is 01:03:38 reproductive ones. So that's what now, that's what we got to switch gears. We do not want to use the product like radiator Mega grow or whatever at this stage. 01:03:47 Okay, right Temple, we do not want to use it in just you know, the BG or you're putting on now is for Reproductive time because I 01:03:56 was your head now you're here. We're flagly here. So we're just put that flag leader. So or we could you know, if you don't if you can't get the major grow 01:04:05 or whatever Radio use it you want to use complex all the way through from Mark Houston. Now, you can use complex all it 01:04:11 because complex is made up different. It's a what's Lord. I'm looking for example. This genetic now it does its own 01:04:19 deal. It makes its own stuff in the place up. It's it's natural. It's a yeah anyway makes its own deal, but it's safe. It's safe to 01:04:28 use from the start all the way to the Finish. It's tricks the plant into making its own natural plant 01:04:35 growth hormones. Yes, and I still be at that rate of four to six ounces up to eight ounces. Is where you're going to land in at all the way through just let 01:04:44 your pocketbook be again. So you can use complex all the way through. But now's when you're Switching gears on let's be real 01:04:50 clear that we're Switching gears from our Mega grows and our radiates and those now into our own words or our 01:04:56 complex or our energized, you know, we're switching on a different type of pgr here. Yeah. It's not worth the point where we're talking about reproductive time, right? 01:05:07 Um, hey Chad at this point. This is where I would always probably before I even made a pass. I 01:05:16 would probably go out and take a tissue sample definitely need a tissue. So just okay. Yeah definitely in 01:05:22 case you said because it's just not not knowing that we are making a mistake. We just want to make sure that yeah, we're not completely lacking 01:05:31 of something. Yeah, we really need so I mean this point We've taken what two tissue samples. Yep one during early Greenup and this is specific that we're 01:05:43 getting ready to go in and reproductive. We need to need to know that we're not low on certain things. So this is when we would distinguish whether 01:05:52 we use a product like crop Max or something from You know AG Explorer or spray tank or whatever. This isn't gonna really get specific to 01:06:02 where we're going to drop maybe a more phosphorous load, you know something even things 01:06:08 like what you use it will be a good place here would be a good place to put stuff like we're using Furrow those type of chemistry, you 01:06:14 know. Yeah, and I think that this also the stage here, so I'm a hundred percent in agreeance with everything that that Chad 01:06:23 saying one of the things that we talk about, you know, when you get into those reproductive stages where we've seen good bonuses is 01:06:32 when you start to add some potassium acetate this is this point where I'm gonna shove a little potassium acetate in there to try 01:06:41 to get ready to front load those plants with enough K that it's going to attribute to test weight down the road now, we're 01:06:49 Go ahead. I'm sorry now, I'm sorry. No, no, go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Good you I'm done. So I'm glad you said that I'm sorry I missed that on last one my potassium. This is gonna 01:06:58 be that gallon to three gallon rate right here, like you're telling the corn to the farm gallon to three Gallery, but also don't forget that it don't hurt to put a sniff of that in 01:07:07 on that last on my last nitrogen running. I'll put some potassium Estates in there, you know, your K Flex or k fuel or or whatever cake products, you 01:07:16 know, whether it's one from concept bag or take several of them's got him, you know, we can do the full Tech K. This is a one 01:07:22 where we would be better on the full Tech cave because the use rates on the spray tape products. 01:07:28 Where the water here and we could put where we begin use big use rates. We could put the K in on the last National pass. 01:07:34 Yeah. No because it kind of drug it in. We got it from remember what products we're using what to get them into the plant go ahead. So I mean, I know we're going on 01:07:43 it on this for this this one right here, like how he said go ahead Temple and he just cut right in the office. Just this one right here. You just it's like I mean 01:07:53 Oh, I've never ate. Well, I think school is I've got two guys that love each other and they love throwing more 01:08:02 stuff at everything. But the thing is we keep going through they're doing a bunch of work to produce wheat, but the payoffs there this isn't just so you can go and 01:08:11 brag the you knocked it even win the wheat yield. We're not it's not it's not about that. We all we this is 01:08:17 something that I have been doing for years and maybe we're asking we're eating one or two small things every year 01:08:26 but this has been our program and we've proven time and time again that there is a huge Roi on this or we wouldn't be doing it 01:08:35 you're treating wheat, like other high yield Chasers change and so it means and nobody else does it we barely pay attention to soybeans. They're 01:08:44 like the crap in between corn and care about we we it's what they were out there in Western Kansas, you know, there you that's what they do, but you guys are serious, but you get 01:08:53 Fields alright bring me to bring me home here the final thing you do the last treatment treatment number five and we're getting darn 01:08:59 close door. Yeah, you slow this down on four fours like Temple. What are we missing on four four? Because I mean, this is pretty big. I mean, let's go we've got 01:09:08 we got another we got another shot of fungicide in four we got insecticide in for we've got a sugar product in for we got a human for we 01:09:17 got a pgr a reproductive pgr in for we've got a potassium acetate in for curly words fertility. 01:09:26 We got a shot of fertility in there. yeah, so, um Yeah, so all of these things are adding and aiding on now, I'm 01:09:37 gonna say this. This is new for me this year and I'm not telling people that this is something that I think that it's going to pay out. 01:09:47 But last year again, we're talking about comparing it to Corn. This would be my side dress or 01:09:53 why drop on corn, right, you know. Oh you didn't say Boron on this load, which it has to be in this load too as well. So it has 01:10:02 to be in this load. Um, so what I want to say is is last year we did test with with one of the products. It was 01:10:11 neutral charge. When we ate at neutral charge to our y drop at V5 V6, we saw a huge uptake and phosphorus 01:10:23 again. And then we saw a big number in yield now. I didn't do that on my wheat last year. Remember I told you that on my first stream pass I put Nutri charge 01:10:35 in there and I saw a big bonus. Well, I'm gonna treat it just like I do my corn and if I saw a big bonus on my corn ground by doing 01:10:44 it on my why drop application, this would be my waddrop application and this makes sense to me. So I'm not saying I'm 01:10:53 gonna do it on every acre but I sure as hell I'm gonna try it. So I would say that that would be on some of my Acres again. That's it. 01:11:02 That's a cheap product that 3.2 ounces. You're only looking at like five bucks less than five. So, I 01:11:11 don't know we definitely needed if you won't talk about We're going to test Damien. This is gonna be it. We don't know the placement for that. So between me and Temple 01:11:20 both we will have new charged in probably on our first fertility treatment, which will be treatment number two. There'll be some ground with it in treatment number three. There'll be 01:11:29 some ground within treatment number four because we got to figure out this fit because we don't well I have some 01:11:35 Chad I put some in treatment number one in the fall as well. So I did 500 Acres where I put 01:11:42 it all the way out there and then I'd stopped because I got enough old enough Nutri charge early on that. I could I could kind of mix it all throughout the year. So 01:11:51 I'm gonna do it all the way out front. And then I'm gonna put it in my first screen and then I'm gonna put it in the last string. We need 01:12:00 to figure out a couple things Wednesday exact right time and is too much too much like there's some things that we don't know and that's 01:12:09 what we're here in extreme act to do we're trying to figure out I guess that's mine Chad's job to do like so 01:12:15 we're gonna send it guys. Our job is to find out where is too much because if there's somebody's gonna figure out too much is it's gonna be us. Yeah, I 01:12:24 agree with this. Here's the thing everything you've talked about up till now has become your standard practice. The one that you're gonna toy with this year 01:12:30 is the new charge and the product nutrients that we work with comes from that's agrotech. 01:12:35 Agatech USA and and the agriculture USA in the main thing. There is we discovered just because it helps find phosphorus Authority in your soil. 01:12:43 So changes the phosphate changes the charge of phosphorus to the point where a plant can take it up. So it's a it's again, it's back to what Chad was 01:12:52 saying a minute ago. It's all about efficiency and availability. So that's what it's changing for us. It's making that stuff available so 01:13:01 we can be efficient and you know, we got to talk about thing to nine the thing but they're whole you the way they want to use this guy 01:13:09 to go with they saying that it's got or it we know it works best. If we got it if we get it running where they Fosters product. So whether you want to try that with your 01:13:18 natural application or whether you try that have a foster product going in here. 01:13:22 On this application that would be the time to start piggybacking this new charging and playing with it. Am I right Temple? Yeah, you're right about that. So so last 01:13:31 year my very first pass I put neutral charge in there. There was not phosphorus in that Loop. It was a 28005 no phosphorus 01:13:40 big results. Same thing with my what you know on corn this year. Of course, you know, I put it in my start at work very well and then 01:13:50 I put it all the way out in my why drop paste V5 V6 that V5 V6. It was Twenty Eight double. Oh five there was 01:13:59 no phosphorus in it, but it was a huge bounce and that yield number so I don't think you know, we got great companies that 01:14:09 were working with. but we're finding out a lot of things I think is because you know, we're putting it over such 01:14:16 a vast amount of Acres over vast amount of soils and we're finding out things that it does for us that they didn't even know it was going to do and I think 01:14:25 another thing is, you know, people need to walk The programs here, you know when we say sometimes well, we didn't get it you response look at back and our program 01:14:36 what it is right. Now this stuff we're talking about, you know other than a neutral charge and and one or two 01:14:42 things. This is our normal practice. So we don't see a month out of something. It's because man, we've done got this thing down to where it's really hard for company to come 01:14:51 in here and make a book. We're just looking at better use race products better timing simpler. Use there's 01:14:57 a lot of things like that. We look in when we start moving products around because this ain't always easy to get packed on a 01:15:03 truck and get done the sprayer guys ain't happy with you when you jump 10 things at a time in but we know when we 01:15:09 can affect the plant how to affect the plant and what it takes to do it. And so that may mean that you ain't gonna spray 800 acres 01:15:15 day you go straight five hundred day. Yeah, and you guys are getting across and you're doing a lot of stuff here. Let's go with our final and now it's time to take us home. 01:15:24 Oh still the final Pass Temple you go first this time Temple the last thing you do before the combines roll. 01:15:31 Head scab right at right at the you know at when it's flowering we're gonna put on another insecticide. We're 01:15:40 gonna put on a heavy dose of fungicide to prevent headscape. We are going to add potassium acetate in that load. 01:15:50 I'm gonna probably put a touch of sugar in that load again sugars. They it's kind 01:15:59 of like in a job agent for me. Some of them are actually labeled like that. I believe in them. There'd be 01:16:08 a good time to add Pacesetter that be a good time. It'll help fungicides work a little bit better. The purpose of PACE Center is stress. 01:16:18 Tell him you do a better Chad. So what it what the best way that Brad it's it's from ProForm. They was maroon bow now they're 01:16:28 ProForm. So it what way bread explained to me is it kind of soups up super it's super charges a normal fungicide. We're gonna get a little bit more 01:16:37 life out of it. We're gonna get a little bit more of activity out of it. It's just a super charger for and it's the thing that year 01:16:43 after year. We see benefit from it and they got Pace Setter emerging is there fertility part 01:16:49 and then you got Haven as well and you know, we probably miss that while ago because that's the first shot is 01:16:55 also a good time to have dropped them in also if you may set her Haven in on the first shots well with with pay center if patient 01:17:04 keep in mind here that last place on head scan, you have a five to seven day window to get that on and do a 01:17:13 good job and that I schedule when you prime time is like Temple say it when you say the yellow flowers on there, that's when you spraying it. 01:17:21 Yeah, so, um by adding a product like Pacesetter what happens is if you can stretch that window out just a little bit supercharged that make 01:17:33 it be a little more effective that that's a big deal for for me especially and it should be a big deal for everybody that is 01:17:42 trying to sell Flour Mill quality wheat, you know anything that we can do to make that do it just a little bit better, you know, you get a bump like like I've been 01:17:51 getting you know with doing all this other stuff up front. That's up. That's a pretty big deal to not have a load rejected 01:17:57 here. There only takes one. Yeah, so by the way Temple the person that's saying all right, man. You went over a lot 01:18:06 of times. Then this last treatment you got what a month then and this is the last thing you do and then you sit back for a month until it's time to roll the combines. 01:18:15 Yeah, when we get done that one, we're pretty much done. We will Scout to make sure that we don't have any insects or 01:18:25 anything like that. But born that we don't have any insects. Yep. That's gonna be that's gonna be it for us. 01:18:32 Got it. And that's that would make up to be number six for me. It's five for Chad again. I 01:18:38 hated a chemistry pass in the middle. But by the time that we're all said and done we're all of our numbers are about 01:18:47 same. The only thing I have extra is I've got a chemistry Pace In The Middle. And it allows me to put on a lot of other things in there 01:18:56 that I can get it on like micro packs that kind of thing. I can kind of spray them on the crop. Did your last treatment is again? Probably the same 01:19:05 thing about a month before to combines roll. Yeah, that would be about right we're gonna we're gonna get the chance final pass and then we're going to pass this 01:19:13 along. And again, we want to point out that this is the you don't have to do this. But I think temples point he when 01:19:21 dad looks around says wait a minute twelve dollar wheat and what was your yield again? Oh all the sudden you make 01:19:27 a lot more money. If you do the works. I mean, this is one of those things where you know, what are people that shouldn't be doing this probably so like either 01:19:33 the ground doesn't support it or they don't think that they have the time right? You know that the thing is that you got 01:19:39 to remember is, you know, we just gave you a whole bunch of things. You know, we had a guy that again one of 01:19:45 the beautiful things about extreme AG if you remember you can get on this question for him and that we get questions daily. This 01:19:51 was a question that we had this morning. Kevin and I answered the question and it's a guy that's producing, you know, 50 60 01:20:01 70 bushel wheat and he wants to add to that. He doesn't have to do all that. He was already doing a few things. Just pick one 01:20:10 thing. I've said it a million times if farmers are farming today. They already have a good program if they're growing wheat, they're making money 01:20:19 growing week if they're growing just pick one thing that'll help you in your area, you know micros might not work for them in that area. Maybe it's just 01:20:28 a pgr. Maybe it's putting potassium acetate like straight NXT all the way out at the end like pick something that works within your original 01:20:37 program. But my God, the last thing that we want anybody to do is drop their own successful program and follow ours because 01:20:46 that doesn't make sense. Just take this program and pick some pieces out of it. Well, there's a lot there's probably a lot of people that are not 01:20:55 Thing anywhere close to what they could be getting and you know, like Swanson was on the other day recording is like 01:21:01 let's start with the one and that's how you're saying start with do it start with adding one more pass right? Because you don't have to add Five Guys 01:21:07 start by adding more about it. Just one more. You don't even have to do a whole a pass just and we might want to just move products around, you know, 01:21:17 it's just about moving around. It's just trying to fill a problem you have like, hey, wait a minute. I've been getting some lows turn down. Hey, 01:21:23 I need to touch this and this here or hey, I you know, I'm kind of running short on nitrate it on a daily and maybe I need help my gallons a few right here, you know and and my 01:21:32 first in the first part my up and up in the rate on the first was I thought I needed a few more fall tillers. I needed it growing a little harder. So I changed that National right up 01:21:41 front. But that's what it goes down to now my last pass was talking about that before out the dogs to go but my last pass is lot like temples same 01:21:50 thing. We're definitely gonna have the sugar we're gonna have The sugar in it as a safe nurse going to be just just trying to 01:21:57 put weight because then we're talking about test weight right Temple. That's what we're affecting me. It's just like corn that's 01:22:03 a tail in here we go, and we're probably we made you know, we had one tissue sample pulled prior to the flag leaf right 01:22:09 there. So we're gonna see if we had any issues. We may pull another one after that treatment if there's time to get a maybe get it make sure you get a rain in between or something 01:22:18 because you're gonna have some leaves us there's gonna be and maybe bastard you know, that maybe what am 01:22:24 I trying to say the tissue sample may be wrong what my translation well tissue samples can really be wrong that time anyway, because 01:22:33 what you have at that time of year you you know, what what AIDS test weight, right, you know boron's gonna test what you know, his experience test 01:22:42 weight, you know potassium is gonna ADD test weight. Well, if you take a tissue sample at that time of year at that this 01:22:51 particular stage according to your weather events and everything else. It couldn't be so far skewed that you probably should take 01:23:01 your money and go do something else. Yes. The only time I ever killed wheat was because I took a tissue sample. 01:23:10 Made application took a tissue sample 10 days later. Nothing had happened. Everything was cold. It didn't move and I went out and made another application that killed a 01:23:19 week because I was laying on that and nothing moved so that taught me about moving it taught me about whether and it told me that you have to let the things move in and 01:23:28 out and understand what's going on before you just start keeping it off of the number so travel basically what you're saying you I'm 01:23:34 really glad you said zinc there. We need to put zinc in on our national loads back up there too. Temple. They're 01:23:40 all they're all in my beginning passes. Yeah. There's something that I want. I want to I want to bring up 01:23:46 and there's gonna be some people out there to think. I'm nuts and that's okay because you won't be the first one on that first. 01:23:57 Well, not on the first pass on my chemistry pass with you know, when I'm putting all the different micro packs 01:24:03 in I do this and people want to say I'm nuts because I've heard it said before Millennium makes no difference in 01:24:12 a grass plant. I've heard it a million times. But when you look at what millennium does Molly it helps translucate stuff 01:24:23 up and down that plant. It's like Paving a superhighway versus going down an old dirt back road. You ain't gonna run Chad's 01:24:32 race car down a back road, but you're going to run that thing on on a newly page route. So that's 01:24:41 what Molly does for me and I put Molly in that first chemistry pass with my micro packs and I'm trying to put a little bit of Molly in 01:24:50 there. I don't know that it necessarily does a lot. I know Millennium does huge things for soybeans for me and I know how to utilize it in beans and 01:24:59 that's one of the secrets to where I grew really good beans at knowing where to put that Molly in but at a early stage opening up that super highway, 01:25:08 I think it does bigger things than we realize so having said that that reminded me of that Chad make sure that you tell 01:25:17 Body, you you're never going to want put Boron and this particular last load, right or wrong, right? It's too 01:25:26 late. What's Dunn's done? Here's the other reason Boron on those little flowers, whatever they call 01:25:34 them little things. I can't remember what they're called. It will burn them off. 01:25:39 So do not put any boar on of any sort in this last pass, I would like to point out that is from the day. I met Chad and he 01:25:48 became the Boron guy and I'm like, I've never heard a guy talk about boron so much and with our industry partner, you know us borax. The thing 01:25:58 is if Chad tells you not to put on Boron he take this to me again. He puts the stuff on his toast in the morning. Hey real quickly. You guys said something pretty smart there you talk 01:26:07 about some of these things on this last pass. It's finished in a crop and you know our Buddy Lee Loopers talks about you get around 01:26:13 the base. You got around the bases, you know, you could do nothing at the end. But this one is like the smart money, you know, 01:26:19 it's like you've already done the hard work now do the overtime overtime here the head scale paste 01:26:25 is I mean and that's what it is. We're going up there for the head scale. So all this other stuff, you know, it's just riding 01:26:31 alone. That's when you need to pick apart what you're lacking because if you have been lacking something the whole way and you're 01:26:37 just gonna treat it right now just save you money. Because it ain't no help. Yep, you know got it wait. We're we should 01:26:44 be done with this whole fertility thing my name. Yeah, right. It's lady money right now. It's about 01:26:50 now it's about making sure that there's not This is all pieces that were just trying to make tests. Wait. That's all we're doing. Now. It ain't 01:26:58 it's it's that Colonel size. We getting that big plump kernel getting that thing fat and boat up and and that's 01:27:04 where we're at. So just there's not a whole lot of things you can do in this one, but there are things you can if you didn't have the right system to go all the way through remember like 01:27:13 okay talk about to systems approach and this is finishing the system like please talk about rounding the basis. Just make sure you covered your bases on this bag. 01:27:22 You said something also you said that it's the scab it's last month. If you have a disease all of a sudden you're going from Flour Mill quality to it gets 01:27:31 fed to the Hogs wheat prices. So this is like why not take the last one. You said something also about test weight Chad. 01:27:39 Temple I just ran a couple of numbers, I don't know because I don't grow 15 Acres of wheat like you if I get two pounds 01:27:45 of test weight On on 80 bushel wheat that adds me 160 pounds which is 2.6, you know two and a half 01:27:55 more bushels at 10 bucks. I mean am I usually am I accurate that? Yeah, you're if you're doing a big deal. 01:28:03 Well two pounds is it reasonable that the doing the things right on this last pass? Does it give us two more pounds of test weight? 01:28:09 I don't know that it's gonna give you two pounds of test weight, but you're not really adding that many things and this last 01:28:15 load you're just securing the test weight that you've built all along. Is that right? You hearing can it's gonna get it's it's more 01:28:25 of you know, we talked about before that insurance policy that all these other things that we did. We're 01:28:31 gonna round That Base we're gonna take it all the way to the end. It provides test weight loss. Maybe is the right thing. Yes. We lost the 01:28:39 And you know we weeds of wheat is a very very vital problem, you know volatile crop after it becomes accurate matures 01:28:49 once it matures and it gets harder the first time and you know, you're out there cutting it and then you get a rain event and then it dries up now you get another random event 01:28:58 then it dries up or you get real heavy dues. Every time that happens. You lose a little test weight these things that we're doing helps lengthen that 01:29:07 window of where that thing starts to fall off exactly. So so let's talk about one last thing. We've talked about growing this crop. We've always been just 01:29:16 like Temple brought us home. So when now let's talk about harshness crop. This is where things like. Oh you you 01:29:23 stop for a minute. Because are we going to tell them about what we want to try to do like we did with our corn Are You Gonna 01:29:32 Save that? See, there you go saving information. We we not only we're gonna do another what we don't need that. We don't need I'm just saying that what if 01:29:43 we're going to be sending guys, you know, or we're gonna just talk about what 01:29:47 we knew worked with corn. Potentially, maybe it might work with wheat? No, we're gonna run it really next year. 01:29:57 You ain't no senega. Alright, I'll keep going and you not I'm gonna cut our wheat wager on the 01:30:05 ground. It's gonna be playing. All right, let's talk about let's talk about Hardware Wait Wait Don't temple temple let Chad go. He's got the last thing he's got his 01:30:15 last statement. Temple sample said say forgot palsy. Forget Palestine Palisade you need to you you need to talk about that and I'm gonna tell you why I don't use 01:30:27 it. But go ahead Chad you got to talk about that because if you're gonna build this kind of plant most of 01:30:33 the listeners out, there are probably going to want to use fallacy. Hit it. 01:30:39 I I'm gonna tell you what. I don't know the best way to use Palisade. That's just what you it 01:30:49 is you think that head scab timing is critical. This Palisade timing is critical now, we can use a full rate and we stop it. 01:30:58 We used to pieces of rate. We've done that last year on a week wager. We knew we had something going on when we come in there with her one of hey, they say 01:31:07 big six. It's where they're gonna talk. Hey, we're going to fix but they say fake six, but we don't come in there and we 01:31:13 can put us us a half a rate on I remember I don't even remember I want to say 10 ounces is a full rate. Am I wrong here? But I was putting forward a six ounces on 01:31:22 maybe any coming back to second time, but I don't use Palisade a whole lot. 01:31:28 Um, but as my nation starts going up more I'm gonna have to start using it and get better at it. How about that? 01:31:35 What's the purpose? What's the what's the purpose Temple that you you don't and that Chad does use palsy? What is Palisade? 01:31:41 So Palisade is a a plant growth regulator, but not in the form of a pgr of what we usually usually 01:31:50 use pgr for it literally regulates the plant growth the height of the plant that's what it's supposed to do. That's what it's designed to do and it shortens up 01:32:02 that plant so you don't have wheat that lodges because once it lodges you have a million different problems come in. 01:32:10 I'm going to say this and I could be wrong. I never apply Palisade. But yet I can put on the same pounds 01:32:21 as Chad can and Chad's crop will fall down or my neighbor's crop a fall down and mine won't and I'm going to tell you 01:32:30 why I think this is again, this is Theory. This is why I think that it that it happens. I never ever never ever. 01:32:40 put a her arm fertilizer on my crop without having the stream tips. 01:32:49 And here's here's why I think this works. So if we go out there and we want to break down residue. What do we 01:32:58 do? We want to spray uan 28005 32% I don't care and at a at a rate and we want to emulsify and you want to get it on the crop and it helps break that 01:33:11 crop down because it it creates lesions in that crop that crop can break apart and fall apart. 01:33:19 I believe that since I never emulsify. That fertilizer and I never get it onto that plant. I literally can put on a hundred and 01:33:29 thirty-five hundred and forty pounds of end and my crop will not fall down and I think that it has something to do with that and I don't use 01:33:39 Palisades, I I just never have ever since switching in to the stream tips. I don't have wheat that goes down anymore. And maybe 01:33:49 it's maybe it's a function of all these things and I'm building a different plant. But Chad's doing the same thing. Maybe the only 01:33:58 difference is between me and him is is his growing environment like his never really stops growing. Does that 01:34:04 make sense? Chad? It definitely does it's all about how tall it gets in the fall if I can keep that 01:34:10 thing short, it's just like let's say we pick certain varieties that we're gonna push harder because they'll be coming in there 31 inches instead of 01:34:16 34 five or six inches tall week. Yeah, you know, so we we have to manage those things and I really don't know what to answer is different years. 01:34:25 I don't think this is something that you're gonna just stick in a program. You're gonna just hammering You're Gonna Keep It In because if you plant a 01:34:31 crop and you get cold early in these different state cold. I don't think you're gonna need it. 01:34:36 But then you get there in a crop you had a warm December where we was wearing shorts outside for Christmas. Yeah better get your 01:34:42 Palisade ready. You know, I think this is something that you're definitely gonna have to play by it's gonna have to be in every crop 01:34:48 at some point according to plant day weather. It's I I hate to say that this is my program and I'm gonna do it and I 01:34:57 know people that does have great luck with it, but I I just it's hard man that Windows hard like one year it works great the 01:35:03 next year don't and it ain't saying the product don't work as you miss the window. I think the window is small and I'm 01:35:09 not sure if we used it. We you couldn't get it in there. And use it in one of the passes. I don't I 01:35:15 don't know, you know and at a half a rate. All right, I think we can we can wrap on this because now we're getting a speculation. This has been the longest podcast that we have ever produced extreme 01:35:24 magma. I tell you why it's more of a seminar because if you want to produce wheat, I've already changed the title four times in this. I'm calling how 01:35:30 we produce big yield High profit wheat with Chad Henderson and Temple Rose because they do it. We've covered 01:35:36 a lot of ground but if you stayed with us this whole time is because you care about making money on wheat you remember remember 01:35:42 also you can reach out to these two and if you're a member you can find them and get these questions that you might have. Remember you don't have to start by going to 01:35:51 five treatments with every product and how about how about this Damian? Me and Chad will release our seven. 01:36:01 Pay us that we want to do our trial pass. On the question and answers Forum on if you're a member of XA. How 01:36:12 about that? Chad you agree that what eagerly said then right? We need to talk about to combines. All right talk about Harvest. That's an episode. That's an 01:36:21 episode for another day. The main thing is these guys took you down the road on how to get to 100 bushel wheat how to make money on wheat and we're not 01:36:27 talking about going out here and doing the bare minimum, you know, if that's what you want to do. You can do that go buy the cheapest ground to get the worst ground. You 01:36:33 have put out as little money as possible. There's money to be made if you just are a low cost producer also, but we're not talking about that. We're talking 01:36:39 about really applying our efforts and our products and our know-how to create and practices, of course to create high yield big profit wheat, his 01:36:48 name is Chad Henderson. He founding father of extreme egg. Temple roads are extreme egg affiliate. We're so lucky to have him in 01:36:57 the eastern shore of Maryland until next time. I'm Damian Mason. Thank you for joining us here Extreme Ice 01:37:03 cutting the curb. 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