00:00:00 In the future, you're going to apply less nitrogen, but that's okay. You're not gonna sacrifice yield 00:00:04 because of the technology that's coming down the pike In agriculture. I'm with Scott Lay with Loveland products, 00:00:09 my friend Matt Miles and Kelly yo of Extreme Ag at Commodity Classic. Alright, you got a new product. 00:00:14 This is where I think agriculture is going. He's been doing trials about reducing nitrogen. And the big thing is we've over complied it. We know that. 00:00:21 Now, that's one of your big things is, you know what? We don't need to be putting all this out there. How low can we go? Okay, I wanna balance the agronomy. 00:00:28 Yes. In the environmental space, the sustainable space, it gets talked about all the time. We need to reduce nitrogen. We need to reduce nitrogen. 00:00:34 That's typically true, but it's an incomplete statement. We need to balance, we need 00:00:39 to have a balanced agronomy program. And a lot of times it does mean though, reducing nitrogen and using the organic nitrogen 00:00:45 that can be mineralized from the soil. Okay? The first argument is that is gonna be, wait a minute, I don't have a lot 00:00:50 of mineralized nitrogen in my soil. I farm in a sandbox in southeast Arkansas. Does he have a, he doesn't have the kind 00:00:55 of nitrogen in his soil that you do in Iowa, so his argument's gonna be, I have to apply more. You need to test your soil to see what's there. 00:01:00 You cannot measure what you don't know. You think that we're definitely going down this road. There's gonna be environmental scrutiny. 00:01:07 There's going to be, I was just in Nebraska, they're pulling samples out of the wells 10 times. The level of nitrates in the wells then is, is healthy. 00:01:14 This has gotta happen. Environmental, uh, pressures, it's not going to happen. It is happening. It's, it is occurring. 00:01:21 As Kelly referenced, whether you're in western Iowa or southeast Arkansas. Uh, soil types could change. 00:01:27 And while the amount of organic nitrogen available may vary, uh, we have three modes of action that that offer, uh, 00:01:35 a number of different ways to access that biological nitrogen. We can walk down around here 00:01:39 and we can see all kinds of people that have a pitch and they can tell you, oh, you're gonna not use as much nitrogen. 00:01:43 This is different. Tell me About it. It's different in two ways. Damien. One, it's, uh, three modes of action, okay? 00:01:50 Uh, a fixing atmospheric nitrogen. Other products do that as well, right? Recruiting and fixing microbes that are native in the soil, 00:01:56 whether in you're in Arkansas or Iowa. That's mode of action. Two. Okay. Mode of action. Three, liberating organic pools of nitrogen 00:02:02 to plant available form. That's huge in places where you have organic matter. Uh, and again, we, we'd like to, to recognize 00:02:09 that you can also employ this with liquid fertilizers, insecticides, um, practices that real farmers utilize every day. 00:02:16 We've been saying this, when we go to your trials and you do this reduction thing, 78% of our atmosphere is nitrogen. 00:02:22 And yet what do we do? We, we grab it outta the, we use a, a technique to take it outta the atmosphere, 00:02:27 make it into a product and fling it. Literally fling it out there. It seems like someday, 10 years from now, 50 years from now, 00:02:33 they're gonna look at this like using leeches for healthcare. Like what the, what, what were they thinking? Am I right? 00:02:39 I agree. We, uh, we have a long way to go to scratch the potential of what's possible. It just, we're, we're so far away. 00:02:45 What he talks about three modes of action for the first one is grabbing it out of the atmosphere. It seems a little bit too good to be true 00:02:50 'cause we've never been able to pull it out there. Do you believe this is gonna work? Oh, Absolutely. And and back 00:02:54 to the original question, and we're gonna be forced to do this, if it makes you money and it reduces in the environmental impact, yeah. 00:03:00 Why wouldn't you do it anyway? Even if we're not, even if we're not restricted to do it. I mean, these products have proven right that they work, 00:03:07 they save you money and you put out less, why would we not do it? And our low CEC soils, we're continually losing nitrogen 00:03:13 to leaching, you know, you know, a small rain. We get a half inch rain on urea or maybe two tenths and the sun comes out and it all evaporates. 00:03:22 I mean, it's a no brainer. It's a win-win. It's an easier way to get the nitrogen. It's a more stable way to keep the nitrogen. 00:03:27 Scott, I think the one thing is, if there's companies that say, oh, we gotta wait to reduce your nitrogen, there's a BS factor. 00:03:33 You actually are in the business of selling nitrogen. So you can make the argument, listen, if we obviously are behind this, we're cannibalizing ourselves, 00:03:42 Sometimes the answer's not more fertilizer. Right? And, and that those are painful words to say sometimes for fertilizer companies. 00:03:47 That's a fact. We believe our objective, which may be a little state a little differently than other folks, increased nitrogen use sufficiency. 00:03:53 That's the name of the game. That's what every farmer from sea to shining sea is focused or should be focused on. 00:03:59 And that, that raises productivity. You keep, you keep, you got your brochure here and you talk about three modes of action. 00:04:04 Yeah, in the old days it was nitrogen stabilization. Now it's flat out nitrogen reduction and better utilization. I mean, we're, is this phase two or is this phase three? 00:04:11 Where are we on the whole nitrogen reduction or using it better, uh, journey. Uh, and And my gentleman, my colleague to the right here, 00:04:18 Kelly often says, uh, it, it's, it's reallocating input expenditures. That's right. And that's what we're talking about. 00:04:24 It's certainly not generation one. Uh, we're excited about the sustainable nature of this. And again, sustainability payments as, as farmers 00:04:30 or compensated for sustainable practices, reductions in synthetic fertilizers. We're right in the middle of this and positioned very nicely 00:04:37 Does this work into one of those things where all of a sudden we're getting compensated by maybe a sustainability program. 00:04:41 And this is right into that mix. I believe that this would help you qualify for a sustainability program. 00:04:46 And when we talk about nitrogen use efficiency or nutrient use efficiency, the next terminal here is nutrient density. 00:04:51 And I believe there'll be programs for that. They're just around The corner. How is Matt gonna 00:04:55 use this? Just so the farmer's watching this that says, okay, that's cool. I'm not a commodity classic. I wanna know more about 00:04:59 this Infinity, how does he use it? Infinity is, is constant, will be applied, concentrated soil applications at planning in furrow 00:05:04 or two by two liquid side dress applications in wheat, corn, cotton, a number of crops, soil applied. 00:05:11 Uh, activating that soil biology to produce more nitrogen. Of all the stuff that comes out from levelland 00:05:15 products, is this one that gets you excited. 'cause I think that this is where the future's going. They mean it is where the future's going. 00:05:20 We've done this a while. In the next three to five years, this will be one of the key drivers 00:05:24 behind Levelland products success. We're very Confident. I agree with that. He's Scott Lay with Gerson. 00:05:28 I'm talking to Matt Miles and Kelly Garrett from Commodity Classic 2025 here in Denver. 00:05:32 Talking about infinity. We're talking about our friends at Loveland. Check it out. If they wanna learn more, go to 00:05:35 Loveland products.com. 00:05:36.985 --> 00:05:37.765