Farming Video | Johnny Verell Tests Tidal Grow's Seafood-Based Fungicide Alternative
XtremeAg’s Johnny Verell is running on-farm trials with Tidal Grow’s Spectra, a product derived from shellfish byproducts like lobster and crab shells. The goal? Test whether this bio-based fungicide replacement or enhancer can protect crops, promote plant health, and possibly reduce reliance on synthetics. Verell shares his thoughts on disease control, ROI, and the potential for bionutrients to play a bigger role in the future.
00:00:00 What would compel a farmer to put a bunch of fish guts out on his crops? I'm asking Johnny Verell that question 00:00:05 because it's exactly what you're doing. Sorta of kind of, you are doing a trial this year with titled Grow. 00:00:11 They make products that are derived from seafood byproducts and you're putting 'em on your crops and experimentation. 00:00:16 What was the compelling reason? Well, you Know, everybody's talking about trying to make the soil more healthy, not kill the natural biology 00:00:22 that's going on in the soil. Met T Grow at commodity class, started talking to 'em about some things that they had going. 00:00:27 They had a product called Spectra that is either gonna be a fungicide replacement or a fungicide additive and we'll see which one it does. 00:00:33 And so we did it two different, we know trials on our farm this year to try to see which way is the best 00:00:37 case for us. What's the best fit. They make a lineup of products that it goes in the soil, it goes over the top. 00:00:42 The stuff you used is a fungicide replacement or enhancement. That's right. And then they also 00:00:47 have seed treatments, et cetera. You didn't use anything of those? No, I just did the fungicide, you know, application. 00:00:51 What do you hope to see? I Just hope to see, you know, of course a healthier plant. Number one, reduction in disease 00:00:56 or not seeing any disease at all would be great. Do You see a day when you don't use traditional conventional fungicides and you use more 00:01:03 of a bionutrient type of product and it works? I think you're gonna see that here in here in the short future. 00:01:08 You're gonna have those type of options. Do they last as long? Those type things? We don't know. I synthetic might last longer, 00:01:13 but these might be more of a bio And I could make the environmental case that maybe be regulations 00:01:17 That way and it, and it could come down to our cost by the end too. Cool. I want to get into the cost, but 00:01:21 before I do, I want to find out, I called it fish guts, maybe it's not really fish guts, but it is derived from seafood byproduct. 00:01:28 So we're gonna talk about the actual product and the money with Galen beer oft grow agriscience. Yeah, so it is not fish guts, Damian, 00:01:36 but it is the, the product that Johnny's using is derived from the shells of a shellfish. So like lobsters, crabs, it can be shrimp, right? 00:01:45 So CIN comes from kite, which is a protein that makes those shells hard and when we extract it and turn it into chito 00:01:52 and that's when we can find a beneficial use for it on Johnny's Farm. Got it. And, and 00:01:56 in a number of different ways you're using it, it can be used over the foliar, it can be used as a fungicide replacement, 00:02:02 it could be used in the soil. We have a seed treatment, we have a number of waste incorporated 00:02:06 and we're seeing good results every way that it's used because it, it does work in concert with the soil and the crop. You 00:02:12 Farm, he farms. I'm from a farm. I know the question right now is, okay, money, money, money, money. 00:02:18 Do you have an idea of what you expect to see or do you have an idea of what uh uh, the ROI looks like? Yeah, well I hope what Johnny hopes to see is profit 00:02:26 and we don't, we don't plan on detracting from that. We don't expect to take a slim profit and make it less so we don't wanna be an add-on cost. 00:02:34 What we wanna do is we wanna help make that crop more healthy and if we do then hopefully Johnny can pull back his synthetic, uh, chemical treatments 00:02:43 so he could reduce some costs there. The other thing is, is we hope that by making this crop behind us healthier is 00:02:49 that it rewards him on the backside as well. When he pulls this combine in here, That's what we're looking for. That 00:02:54 ROI Right Damien. And it's more tools in the tool case. I mean 'cause if we don't have have options going in the future, it might get us in a bind one day too. 00:03:02 I can be a farmer in my mental state like you if not in practice and I can say commodity prices where they are. 00:03:08 I'm not gonna go around experimenting. But maybe that's the wrong mindset when commodity prices, prices are where they are. 00:03:13 Yeah. Maybe now's when you do need a little tool tool, I think we need to be looking at all times. Like even in down markets like we are right now, we need 00:03:19 to see what options are out there. 'cause you don't know with these tariffs and everything going on. 00:03:23 Yeah. What these tariffs could do to these synthetics. His name's Johnny Verell. He's joined by Galen Beer with Tyler Grow agriscience. 00:03:28 Uh, stay tuned. We will have results from this, especially for paying members of extreme ag 00:03:32 and you'll post about what the Tyler Grow experiment was, what it looked like and what the results were. 00:03:37 Absolutely. Got it. And I can find out all that great information and other stuff. You don't have to be a member. Go to Extreme Mag Farm. 00:03:42 A literal library of information videos. These guys shooting the Fields podcasts and episodes I do with guys like Galen all there free 00:03:49 for the taking Extreme Mag Farm. While you're there, subscribe to our YouTube channel and also check out our new hit show the Grainery. 00:03:54 Till next time, Damien Mason coming at you from the 00:03:57.835 --> 00:03:59.125