High vs. Low Management Corn: ROI Insights from Verell Field Day

00:00 Behind me is high management corn on the other side of the aisle is low management corn. What's the difference and 00:07 how can you make more money on the high management? That's what we're talking about with Johnny Rell Pre Rell Field Day here in Jackson, Tennessee. 00:16 So here we're talking about high management corn versus low management corn. For you that are watching this video 00:21 behind us is the low management trial. We're at Johnny Verell's Field Day, Jackson, Tennessee. Awesome setup. Very, very impressive. 00:27 If you've, if you've got it on your calendar for next year, come to it. If you're coming to it this year, you will be impressed. 00:31 This is an awesome deal. Temple Rhodes, Johnny Rell. Um, I gotta be honest, I don't see a great big difference here. 00:36 But then I'm not the expert. Low management, high management. Presumably you're gonna tell me it's worth the effort. 00:41 It's worth the money to go ahead and do high management because you're gonna make more money at, uh, time of harvest. 00:46 Well, I mean, you would think that, and I mean we, we came out here, me and Temple started pulling ears and it's kind 00:51 of shocking a little bit what you're seeing, but you gotta remember our low management, we planted at 27,000. 00:55 The high management was at 37,000. So the high management ears are a lot smaller and length, but actually in kernels 01:01 and stuff, they're packed in there tight. So, well, they're Also further behind too. Yeah, 01:04 it is a lot. Like, I mean it's a fair amount. I mean we, there's a lot more dent in this than is, Although I'm gonna hold these up. 01:09 This, this is low management in my rank now. No, This is high Management. High management is a small high management, low management. 01:15 I'm pretty much sold on the idea of doing less and spending less money and going to the beach and go ahead and gimme the low management corn. 01:21 You're telling me that's not necessarily, don't let my eyes, uh, I got 10,000 more plants of these out there, an acres than 01:25 This. Okay. So we're gonna make up for it in terms of plant count. Yep. And not in terms of ear size. That's 01:31 Right. And you know, one thing we run into is a lot of times you start planting high populations like this right here at 37, 30 8,000, 01:38 you'll get a tremendous amount of tip back. We really didn't have any tip back at all. You know, we added PGRs in season. 01:42 We added a lot of sugar, fulvic, ic, we added all kinds of things throughout this season to, to really push this crop out and help it fill out. 01:49 'cause I have planted high populations before and it just tipped back a couple inches. But one of the things you also gotta think about is, 01:55 you know, even though this corn over here, the high management corn is further behind, it's also a darker yellow 02:00 or darker orange than this is your test weight's gonna be higher on this. Yeah. You're not just looking at 10,000 more plants per acre 02:08 or 10,000 more years acre. You're gonna be looking at, uh, basically a higher test weight as well. 02:15 How much difference? Two pounds, three pounds? I mean, that's sizable of test Weight. Yeah. Oh, absolutely. 02:19 I Say least, uh, our friend Kelly Garrett, who's gonna be attending your field day talks about, uh, I wanna get six tenths of a pound per stock of corn 02:27 to get my yield. You're not gonna get six tenths of a pound on this. It's very likely will on this. 02:32 You're obviously making up for it with more plants. And So, you know, we've, we've really reduced our nitrogen the last few years on our farm. 02:38 And so this right here is probably gonna be in that six, seven tenths on the high 02:41 managers actually where we're running. We've actually figured out the sweet spot of where we think's gonna work for us. 02:46 And the timings is a big thing too. Okay. So explain to me high management versus low management. First thing I'm gonna go with as well, 02:51 you've already spent money on seed. You're spending one, you're putting one third more seed at corn seed 02:56 prices being what they are. You just threw an extra, what, 70 bucks per acre at more seed? 03:01 Maybe not. No, you are not that much. You're probably what, 35 40? Yeah, about 40 bucks. Okay. $40 more 03:06 per acre on that. Okay. What else are we spending on high management temple You're gonna be spending more money on in furrow? 03:11 You're gonna be spending more money on your, you know what I would consider my fungicide passes. Yep. You're gonna be spending a little bit more money on it. 03:17 But the key to this is, is you're trying to figure out where the ROIs and where the sweet spot is on your own land. Like we're on Johnny's land, 03:25 it might be very different than on mine or Matt Miles' or whoever's. That's what we're trying to do. 03:29 That's what Johnny's trying to figure out. He's trying to figure out what's the biggest ROI for his fault. 03:33 Yeah. And and most of the time we're not gonna plant dry land at 37,000. 03:36 That's normally not where we're at. We're usually in that 32 to 34 depending on the part of the field we're in. How 03:41 Much more, how much more money is invested in an acre of high management versus low management? Is a hundred bucks an acre of the difference? 03:46 No, it's probably around 50 bucks an acre on this plot right Here. Okay. So really you're 03:50 not talking about a lot different It was the seed was the bigger No, and you could do more, but I'm talking about, this is 03:54 what we're calling high management's, kind of like our standard farming practice here for us. So, okay. So really the only thing you've changed 03:59 with the seed count and maybe a couple other little things. Yeah, A couple other passes in seed. 04:02 So you're saying $50 an acre plus the seed? Yeah, Yeah, yeah. Uh, uh, $50 an acre over what we have in the, 04:07 what we call the low management scenario. Okay. Because it's just mainly your PGR some sugar, some full 50 04:12 Bucks bucks on top of seed bucks, 50 bucks in addition to the Seed. Oh yeah. 50 04:17 do. Yes. Okay. So it'd be $90 difference. That's what I'm going for. Yes. Yes. $40 of seed, $50 of other in, 04:22 I'm talking about products after we get the seed on the Ground. Thank you. Yeah. What are we gonna see? $90 difference. 04:26 Can I justify low management and still be money ahead or no? Yeah, I mean absolutely. It's 20 bushel. 04:32 It doesn't look like it today. But what we've seen in the last few years, we've have had 50, 60 bushel swings 04:37 from low manage to high manage. And literally we planted this field, the population was set to switch halfway through the field. 04:42 And that's the only thing. The difference soil types are the same. Okay. So it's, it's, well, it's the real deal. We'll 04:47 See. Sometimes you'll capture some of that because you know, keep in mind this one is, you know, probably a growth stage or so behind. 04:54 Yeah. And it's because the sunlight, what happens if you call it a rain event because your window stretched out. 04:59 Yeah. That's what happens. You stretch that window out. Okay. One the thing I was gonna go with then is you just said 05:04 it could be 20 bushels difference. That $4 coordinates only 80 bucks. I'm better off to do low management. 05:08 But you're telling me usually it's more than 20 bushel uh, differential. Yeah, that's right. And for us it is. 05:13 And I mean year in and year out, we're gonna be money ahead by really pushing that crop. 05:17 As long as you got the rainfall to back it up, that's the one product that me and Temple ain't figured out how to 05:21 take care of without irrigation. So. Got it. You can do it and it could fall on its face. Hot Dry year doing dry land in Jackson, Tennessee. 05:26 Low management might make more sense on a dry year. Yes. Okay. And in general, if you're a betting man at 10 years 05:32 outta 10, you're gonna go high management. That's right. Same. Same. Got it. It's Temple Roads here. Johnny Rell. I'm Dave Mason coming at you from 05:38 the Rell Farms Field Day. We have great field days here at Extreme Ag. We have one more remaining August 22nd. 05:43 It's gonna be at Temple Roads Place. Here we are in Jackson, Tennessee, August 6th for him. I'm sorry, we got two more. We got, uh, 05:48 we got Kevin Matthews coming up as well. If it doesn't get hurricane out. Anyway, check out all the videos 05:52 that we shoot at these field days. Educational, good research based stuff you can take and apply it to your farming operation for bigger results. 05:59 Till next time, extreme Ag.