00:00 Can you switch to a totally liquid diet? That's what we're talking about. We've covered different aspects 00:05 of this before, but here we are. The field day just wrapped up at Temple Roads, Chestnut Manor Farm in Centerville, Maryland. 00:11 I got Tommy Roach here with Nature's Got an amazing crop of corn standing behind us. 00:15 And you did this without one ounce, not one ounce of applied dry fertility talk to me. So This is not something that's completely new. 00:25 This is something that we've been kind of dabbling in for a while, and we just kind of took it to a new level this year. 00:32 So our new level was, is What Was coming up. We knew that things were gonna be bad. We knew we were going into a bad ag economy. 00:41 We knew markets were gonna be down. We knew interest rates were gonna be high. So what do we do about that? 00:45 We already spoonfeed fertility, but we only really spoonfeed nitrogen. Right? And we've done a good job of that. 00:52 Well, can we pull some of that back? Not put it up front. So we pulled a hundred percent of the dry out 01:00 where there's no dry here, none. Tommy. I think we've covered it in different angles, uh, on a few different episodes, and I love it 01:07 because it's something that needs to be revisited again and again. We did a Long Farm podcast with me and you 01:12 and, uh, temple talking about this spoon feeding, spoon feeding spoofing at Commodity Classic, uh, where you, uh, are always, uh, you know, have a great big display. 01:21 And we always come there and do a big extreme ag table, a panel. You talked about that there, like, you know, what 01:28 critical periods of influence putting liquid out there. Is it, is this the way of the future? I know you want it to be because you work for nature, 01:35 but the point is, it seems to me that this works. There are more people going to it now, is it, is it something that every farmer can do? 01:45 I, I don't know. I mean, we had, we asked questions today about, you know, why they do what they do. 01:51 Why do they put all of their phosphorus up front? And one guy said, which I think is, is true, it's what my granddad did. 02:02 It's always been done that way. Now it's the, it's easier to deal with it pre-plant or on the planter, right? 02:09 The problem with phosphorus though, is when it gets to this stage, uh, phosphorus is tied up and this is when, uh, corn plant needs phosphorus the most. 02:21 So how do we get around it is we spoonfeed the crop through the year. Um, I still think at, you'd still need some part 02:31 dry fertility up front, but not near what people are putting out there. They have an amazing graphic. 02:37 And at these five field days I've worked, uh, you see it where you show about, you talk about times of critical times 02:43 of influence throwing stuff out there in October or even in May. It's clearly not working because I need certain fertility. 02:53 Now, here we are August 22nd, that's when I need this stuff. And you've got a graphic that shows that, 02:58 and you're, it's probably the best graphic I've ever seen in agriculture, to be honest with you. It, it, and it seem like almost like, wow, 03:03 this is revolutionary, but it shouldn't have been. It's it's Really not. I mean, when you 03:07 come down to it over the past 15 years that we've been doing tissue samples since tissue samples started, if you go back 03:13 and you look at, at collective data that we've done on our own farms, right? It shows the exact same thing with 03:20 that chart that Tommy's got. It's exactly the same. We know what our needs are. We just never really knew how to get there. All right. 03:28 Rapid fire question. So, all right. The person that's gonna be a little bit skeptical, and we've all talked about Tim can be skeptical, 03:33 farmers can be skeptical. They get pitched a lot of different things. No, I'm not gonna get, get rid of my dry fertility program. 03:38 Okay? If I wanna get rid of my dry fertility program, what do I need to know? Well, you know, it's not really about like what, 03:46 what do they need to know every, every situation in is? Like Thomas said, it's gonna be very different, right? You need to start with your soil samples, right? 03:53 So, so star soil samples your thing. What do I need to know? Uh, be prepared to, if you're gonna, if you're going 03:58 to implement something, don't get scared. You've got to stay with the plan, Okay? The money, I'm 04:04 supposed to be saving money. You told me when we did this yesterday, we were going through this, we were walking through the field day, 04:08 pre-field day, and you said, Damien, I saved $110 an acre, $110 per acre that you did not spend. Is this corn suffering? 04:17 I don't think there's suffering. Do I think that we're gonna have the crop that I had last year? 04:21 Do I think that I've taken some off the top? Sure, I do think that. Okay, but I mean, but that's 04:26 the skeptical side of me. I but that Amount of money at $3 50 cents corn. This is 20, this is 20. 04:31 How much we're talking about, we're talking about 25, 30 bushels he doesn't have to make. That's 04:35 Right. Exactly. Imagine reducing your yield by 15 bushels and still being way money ahead. 04:40 This this 25 to 30 bushels he doesn't have to make. Well in, in this, uh, in this economy, we are, we're in right now, low commodity prices. 04:46 It's not all about glamorous, you know, bin buster yields, it's what's gonna make the most money per acre. 04:53 Financial solvency. Alright? The person that's saying, I can't do this because, and they'll fill in the blank. 04:59 You're, you're gonna have to be fight through the skepticism. I can't do this because, well, it's mostly a mindset change. 05:04 It is. Grand dad, dad always did it this way. Uh, I don't have the right equipment. What equipment do you need to go to the full liquid? 05:10 Well, you know, I never changed anything. I've already got infer on my planter. I've already got 2 0 2 on my planter. 05:17 I'm making a chemistry pass when I'm putting on my herbicide. I went in there, I was already making a side dress 05:23 or wide drop pass. I didn't change Anything. If I don't have two by two 05:27 and I don't have inferral on my planter, am I allowed, can I still do a full liquid diet on fertility? You really need to start on the planter. Okay? 05:34 You may, you may not need both. You may not need inferral and two by two, but you At least need one, one or the other to do, okay? 05:40 So you need one of those to make it full, uh, liquid diet. Um, I don't believe that, by the way. 05:45 I think you're wrong. I think that when the plant comes outta the ground, if you have the right sprayer equipment, 05:51 if you had 30 inch rows and you got 15 inch spacing on, on your sprayer, I believe that you can cut off that center tip 05:58 and you can spray the fertility right directly on the plant as a foliar. And I think you're wrong. 06:04 All right? I like the disagreement because, you know, that means, that means if we're not disagreeing still day, as my wife told me once, 06:09 if we don't have disagreements, that means one of us doesn't need to be here. So I left. So anyway, kidding. 06:13 All right, so next thing, um, are we losing fertility in the soil? That's gonna be the next, uh, skepticism. 06:20 It's gonna say, yeah, that's great, but you know what? You're minding the soil you're giving up for your soil's gonna be worse off 10 years from now if you 06:26 keep going that direction, your thought, I don't, I don't think so. It it's gonna take a long time 06:29 and we're not gonna be around if that were to ever happen. I, and I don't think that we're leaving 06:34 a worse legacy either. I think that we're, remember what's, what's happening here? I'm not saying I want you to go mine your ground. 06:41 Yeah, yeah. What I'm saying is, is Feed the plant, not The soil. The plant has got something there. Yeah. 06:46 We just need to feed what it needs at this particular time. It's to keep it from mining the soil. 06:51 That's all we're doing. Are you gonna do this across all of your acres next year? Based on what 06:56 Saw all already did it This year. Every acre, every ac, every acre, every acre, every acre. All right. The person that still wonders what they, 07:02 why they won't do it, why they can't do it, et cetera, your encouragement to them, I think that there's a, where there's a will, 07:07 there's a way, there's no doubt about it. Full Liquid diet can completely doable. It's attainable. It can and it doesn't cost you more money. 07:12 In fact, it saves you money and you don't really need extra, you don't need extra equipment. You don't need anything. 07:15 No, you're already, you're already doing it with passes that he Is already doing. Alright? The person that says, I 07:19 don't have time. You're already making a past in the field. What are you calling, what are you telling me? 07:23 That you don't have time to make that pace. So what are you doing? You're adding in another product or two 07:28 You because you're using it. That time of planning at times we're not this Herb Pass, this program is not about, uh, 07:34 making special trips across the field to just apply fertility. We're already, he's already adding it into basic tasks 07:41 that whether it's herbicide, pass, nitrogen pass, fungicide passes. He's already doing the basic tasks. 07:47 Tommy Roach coming at you from Centerville, Maryland here at Chestnut Mary Farms. We just completed an amazing field day. 07:54 If you were unable to attend this one or any of the others, we really encourage you to come out and look at these, but also check out the videos. 07:59 We've recorded videos at all of the extreme Ag Field days to bring some of the learning home to you. 08:04 But you know what? You don't catch everything from the videos. You catch it by being here. 08:08 And that's why I wish you'd have been here. Temple Roads. Thanks for having us. Yes, sir. It's amazing. 08:11 We're talking about switching off a dry fertility program. It might be scary, but you know what? 08:15 That's why you watch our stuff. We make the mistakes so you don't have to. Until next time, check out Extreme Ag Farm.