The Good, The Bad & The Ugly of Farming | The Granary | XtremeAg

00:00:02 Go ahead, punk wake y day, the good, the bad, and the ugly. That's why I'm doing my Clint Eastwood routine right here. 00:00:11 We're talking about the good of agriculture, the bad of agriculture, and the ugly of agriculture, agriculture's, evolution, agriculture's future, the good, the bad, 00:00:19 and the ugly that we're covering. This episode of The Grainery, coming to you with my friends, Chad Henderson, Kevin Matthews 00:00:25 and Temple Rhodes of extreme ag, talking about the good, the bad, and the ugly of agriculture. 00:00:28 You ready for a conversation with some real farmers about real issues? And the best part, you are invited. 00:00:34 Support yourself a drink, grab a snack. Most importantly, pull up a chair. Welcome to the greenery. Hey guys. Bad. 00:00:49 The ugly about culture, All Guys. All right guys. You heard a, you heard a Charlie. Hey, I can't even look at you. 00:00:58 Take your hat off and get that monkey dingdong outta your mouth. Make my day. So I pretty much am a clin Eastwood badass. 00:01:07 We all know that. But let's get into the thing, the good, the bad, and the ugly of agriculture. 00:01:11 You want me to go first because you guys are still wondering about this. Maybe the hat has you thrown Yeah, go ahead. 00:01:16 A legend in your own mind. That's his problem. He, we've already figured out from his brother this morning that exaggerates on everything. 00:01:23 So go ahead. The good of agriculture, our productive capacity is remarkable. The bad. It's made it our worst enemy 00:01:30 because obviously look at the prices and the fact that you guys are now concerned about whether you're even gonna be at break, even the 00:01:35 ugly, it ain't gonna get any better. The good, the bad, and the ugly. Our productive capacity is amazing and remarkable. 00:01:40 We've amped it up so much that now the prices are bad. The ugly, I don't see an improvement because it's not like all 00:01:45 of a sudden you're gonna lose your ability to produce stuff. The good, the bad and the ugly. I'd say that, yes. 00:01:52 As far as like, yes. Agreed. Cut pass. Yeah. As far as the good, I think that there's a tremendous amount of opportunity that's coming and it doesn't matter what 00:02:04 and anything in agriculture, it's not just farming, it's anything that touches agriculture. 00:02:09 I think there's a lot of opportunity because there's so many things that that, that are coming. So I'm excited for the next generation. Yep. 00:02:17 To come in the ugly side is is the wait did we went to the bad. The good is there's opportunities 00:02:23 and you're excited about the next generation. The bad is, the bad is we're going into, uh, a downturn in the economy. 00:02:29 Well, we're already in it. Yeah. We went through it last year. I'm getting rain coming out of it. Yeah. 00:02:34 We're hoping we're coming out of it, but we don't know that we're gonna, we're coming out of it anytime soon. 00:02:38 But a lot of farmers across the country incurred a lot of debt that, I mean, we can't cover right now. So we're, we're redoing loans. We're redo. 00:02:48 We're trying to just keep going another year. That's the ugly side of it. Like so how long is it gonna take us 00:02:55 to get back out of this? To get back good again. The situation we have now is, is much different. 00:03:00 You know, we started out, if you go back 20 years ago, we was a bread basket to the world. Um, now we got this thing called competition. Brazil. 00:03:12 Ukraine. Four countries named Stan something. Stan. Exactly. Argentina. But why, why all that? And it ain't just them. 00:03:20 You know, I've had, you know, I've had a opportunity come to me a couple years ago 00:03:25 and uh, you know, there was a country come sit down, their minister sat down at the table at my house and he says, we want you to come 00:03:34 and teach our people how to grow corn. And you know, they've never grow corn there. I was like, why? He says, we want 00:03:44 to secure food for our people. So food is became such a huge national security to these other governments. 00:03:52 Why is China invested in US farmland? Why is China, why did they buy Smithfield Foods? Because they want to protect their food supply. Yeah. 00:04:01 Why are they, when we was in Brazil last year, everybody talks about the infrastructure, the I'm telling you that is not going to be a problem. 00:04:10 They're building that infrastructure so fast with Chinese money, arguably more than likely. Yeah. But I mean they can, you can buy it from the US 00:04:20 or you can buy it from Brazil. Yeah. And US is losing farmland. You know, the ugly part is the farmer is less, you know, 00:04:30 what was talking yesterday? We're just maybe a little over 1% of the population is that's actually farm, you know, ag producing farmers. 00:04:39 So we have that situation. We're the minority. And not only the difference when we was in South America, if you as a farmer, you're up here in the, in the class 00:04:49 of people, you know, you're top the top. Yeah. I mean in the US you're down here, but they value their food supply. 00:04:57 So that's the, you know, that's the ugly part that we got to contend with is we can't control the prices 00:05:03 because we're not the only game in town no more. It's a world marketing good, the bad and the ugly. Which temple by the way, said was a dumb concept for a show 00:05:12 and I think it's a pretty darn good one. Anyway, he went right with it. No, it wasn't the concept of the show, it was you. 00:05:17 Oh, I appreciate that. Go ahead and punk. Make my day. Exactly. What do you got for me, Chad? Oh dude. I mean, you know man, we've been here 00:05:27 and we going to talk about this. You know, this is like every morning deal. You know, we're gonna talk about this. 00:05:31 I just refuse today to be on a negative side. Just today, ain't today. Just thing. You know what, let's talk about the good part. 00:05:38 The good part is that we are the American farmer. Yep. The good part is that there's even, there's not a generation that ain't been through what we're going through. 00:05:47 Yep. There's not a family farm that even in the good years don't have some family issues or something going on that they don't get through. 00:05:53 Mm-hmm. You know, and Sure, sure. We have less farmers. We do. But in that case, I mean we're, you know, you have less, you have less car plants 00:06:04 or you have, you have less of everything. Right. You have less farmers or you less construction workers. 00:06:09 Everything goes through a spiral. But, and also the, but I'm not gonna productivity per, per uh, per per unit is better and all that kind 00:06:16 Of thing. And that's, and that's Right. Which is one of the goods also, which 00:06:18 Is one of the goods. You know, we can plant a crop in a hurry. You can look at it, you know, and you'll look 00:06:21 and say, oh, the Midwest is, they're behind, you know, they're, you know, 20,000, 40,000 acres behind. And then the next day Oh, they're called up. Yeah. 00:06:30 They're, you know, look at our power or planting power or harvest power. Yep. You know, we've seen that 00:06:35 and you know, we will, we'll get through this and it'll be all good. We just gotta manage our spending habits. 00:06:41 It's gonna be fine. It's gonna be alright. The good, the bad and the ugly. Alright, I'll throw it. No. Or not. Well, you know, well, we can't have it all good. 00:06:48 I mean, hey, this, this isn't a candy land. This is the green reef are coming out loud, man. We gotta admit that there's some bads and some ugly, I, 00:06:54 I wanna, I wanna be like in a, you know, be a positive mood, you know, just be positive for one's like, I wanna leave here and wanna go to work. 00:07:00 I don't wanna leave here and wanna run outside and run in from school bus. You know, I mean like, ah dang. So 00:07:06 It went to play shoots and ladders and, and, and get a lollipop for everything. We gotta admit that there's some 00:07:11 bad and sm ugly. There's a lot of Good. Okay. Okay. Let's just say there's 00:07:13 some bad and ugly in the country. Exactly. Today at this table. What you gonna do about it? Uh, what you gonna do about it? Yeah, 00:07:19 Good point. Good point. I mean, you just look, we gonna roll with it when the, I mean, in my line of work and where I'm at 00:07:26 and the state that I'm in and what I do, I mean nothing. I mean like all y'all that's watching this, I love Alabama, 00:07:35 like I love the south. But when you realize that we're just a, just a small role playing in this, you know, 00:07:41 like you're a minute and you're just a little bitty goldfish over in the aquarium. When you realize that the better off you are 00:07:47 because I mean, we're chasing whatever we want. We want as farmers for our income. We want something bad to happen in the Midwest. Right? 00:07:56 I mean, not for those farmers, but Wait a minute, wait a minute. I don't do that. Nice. Oh, you laughing at my view. I 00:08:02 Forgot that you're a farm boy. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Anyway. Alright. So, I mean, I had 00:08:08 to get those clothes dirty for you to put 'em on. I appreciate that. So the point is that we all have to play off someone else. 00:08:14 If you're not from the Midwest growing corn. Yep. Then you have to play off him. You want the Midwest to have a trouble. 00:08:19 Well, by the way, that's the ugly, you talking about the ugly, the ugly is for you to have higher prices, you need somebody else to, to tank. 00:08:25 Well, it's not even the higher prices. I'm just following whatever they do. I don't get to higher prices, I just 00:08:29 follow whatever they do. But when something happens, let's say something happens in rail or something happens in, in barge traffic, 00:08:37 then we get margins. Yeah. Our deal ain't the prices, it's the margins. It's the freight difference. It's the freight difference. 00:08:42 So I mean, we're all, and we're all playing off of something. You know, if you're not in Georgia 00:08:47 or Texas, then you're then Matt, them cottons is playing off somebody else. We're all playing off whatever happens somewhere else. 00:08:53 So the quicker you figure out as a farmer that you're just in this pool, if you're not from a certain region 00:08:59 or have a certain standard, then you're in this pool and you're just playing off what happens on the side. Like, I'm a sucker fish, 00:09:06 I'm a catfish over here in the bottom, you know, over here. So you're, you're a bottom feeder. Yeah. Bottom 00:09:11 Feeder. The quicker you figure out that you'll always be a sharecropper, the better off y'all. I mean, I mean it's just, you ain't wrong. 00:09:17 I mean, it's just a way of life, y'all. I mean, you, you, you're not gonna reinvent a wheel. I mean, I know I'm probably blowing all this out. 00:09:24 The water for you, the good, the bad and ugly, you know, boom. But you're not gonna reinvent the wheel. 00:09:27 And things are simple. And it's about providing for your family, providing for the country, making a living, and then going on the next day. 00:09:34 It's real easy. I took my medicine this morning, like I'm chill. It's all good. Very positive. Good. 00:09:40 The bad and the ugly of agriculture. You got it. You Got it. You, you with me. I, I pretty much we're me. 00:09:46 Give what, what you do about it. Let me give you another one that you guys want to or good more than any other industry. 00:09:52 We are family businesses for the most part. You get to work with your kids, you get to work with your parents. 00:09:58 The bad sometimes it doesn't always work. Flowingly the ugly sometimes. We've all seen it. We've seen it from the neighbors 00:10:05 down the road or what have you. The ugly, when the family blows up over 80 acres or you got the grain bin set up 00:10:14 and I got this or whatever it is, Is definitely the Ugly. This that's, there's the good bed, the ugly. 00:10:18 That's not that bad. I mean, you, you get, you get over that. I mean we you've done it. You have done it. 00:10:23 We've had major problems on the farm and you're mad for a minute and that you get, it's just like, b***h, we've got 00:10:31 of drugs for a long time. 30 years old. I mean, you wanna talk about somebody come outta gear. I mean, I am outta gear. You break 00:10:39 A Cog. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Like I'm, it's bad. I'm not as bad as I used to be. I mean, the boys would They disagree. Yeah. They disagree. 00:10:47 They'd argue that and be like, oh man, he like loses His They don't know when you used to. Yeah. They don't, they don't realize. 00:10:53 They don't understand that. Like when you riding down the road and you get so angry and you're in your service truck 00:10:57 and you're so angry, you just take your steering wheel, you bend it over backwards. You, that's a bad day. Yeah. That's a bad day. 00:11:04 Mean, that's constant. You need any counseling, man, I, I've had counseling. I'm any counseling. I'm on medicine. 00:11:10 It's like, it's all good. So that's good. So the good is I have learned how to deal with my problems through medicine and 00:11:18 counseling. There you go. There's the good And tell me I'm part of counseling. Tell me that I'm part of the 00:11:24 Not Listen, if I'm gonna take counseling from anybody, it's probably not gonna be Chad. I bet it ain't gonna be him. 00:11:30 It's definitely not gonna be him. I've sometimes struggled with it having a hot tender. Well, I can tell you that. I can, I can 00:11:35 Call. But you're managing it better than you was 20 years ago, ain't you? Yeah. Oh yeah. See Lord, Lord, 00:11:42 If I need counseling in business or something like that, I might call him or Kevin Kelly or somebody. 00:11:48 No, don't call me. If, if I have problems with other things, I'm calling. We don't get into that. Kevin, good, bad and ugly. 00:11:56 I've got several I can go through. I'm sure you do too. Gimme any one of the three past, present, future of agriculture. 00:12:01 Good, bad, ugly. The way of life is amazing. That's definitely the good. That's the good. You know, one thing it really, you know, I did the video, 00:12:12 uh, a couple years back with Uncle Rob and um, what stood out on that video was the people that had worked for him and dad, uh, 00:12:21 and their brother Vernon through the years on the farm that commented what that done for their life. Having the opportunity to work in those tobacco fields 00:12:31 and the produce fields. And at the time you thought it was doing something for your life, like ending it short, like ending it. 00:12:37 But it was so cool when you ran through, these were RNs that were managers, these were doctors, they was every occupation they went in, they was at the top. 00:12:49 And one recently come by and seen dad because they wasn't going back to the tobacco field. That's exactly right. Yeah. And they learned how to work. 00:12:55 Yeah. The work ethic. And they worked, they learned that work ethic and the lady come by the other day and um, her, they was from California and they had moved out 00:13:04 and worked in the fields there. And then, um, she come back in for a funeral and she stopped by the shop to, 00:13:12 or stopped there at the church to see dad and them. And she said, I just want y'all two to know growing up, working on y'all's farm. 00:13:21 I put that on all my resumes and every job I ever applied for, I would ask them why they was, you know 00:13:28 what, why they chose me. And it went back to my teenage years working on that farm. So if we have children 00:13:38 and now grandchildren, that opportunity to learn and do and work is, you know, we call it a family farm. You know, it's a family farm, but we're all corporations 00:13:50 and you hear the media talking corporate, corporate farms. It's just legal structure about corporate farms. 00:13:55 They're still, those corporate farms are actually family farms. Yeah. But we have to be incorporated 00:14:01 or protected just for financial risk and um, just risk management liability issues. I just think the lifestyle opportunity's amazing. 00:14:11 And it don't matter what you do. You know, you, you know, you read about different people that's been successful in life. 00:14:19 Most of 'em are the first one at the office and the last thing to leave and they don't work a for, if you're going to get to, 00:14:25 if you're gonna make it on a 40 hour week, you better be damn smart and very talented otherwise, or doing something illegal. 00:14:33 Or doing something illegal. Yep. I mean, I mean, no doubt. I mean that's proven. But I mean, you know, a 80 hour week 00:14:41 for us is a, is a lighter week. I'm gonna hop in though and I'll say the good. Yes. Farm, farm people work ethic and, 00:14:49 and there's so much about that. It's just a great, great lifestyle. The, the bad frankly is that sometimes we work, maybe you know, 00:14:56 too much the ugly is when farmers think that other people outside of agriculture don't also work 00:15:00 to be successful in a lot of the things you've already mentioned, whether you're a doctor or whatever. 00:15:04 You're also working quite a bit also. I, yeah. Just like if you, I always think that we judge somebody else. 00:15:12 Always think always we're has a different job because you, you but you, that's different. This you laugh at my view. 00:15:21 But you know what, go, go back to what Kevin said. Why do you have the work ethic that you have being raised the way I was. 00:15:27 Exactly. So I mean, it, it's, no, he's exactly right. You have work ethic and you have drive. He's just got attitude. That's a little bit like way over. 00:15:36 Yeah. Right. Yeah. But I mean he, you go back to what Kevin said, have no question. You know, the, the really good part is, 00:15:42 is you're raising your children in this environment and you have taught them work ethic. And it does not matter what career they choose. 00:15:50 You take Morgan for example, she's a doctor in dentistry now, my oldest daughter. And one of the reasons that she got a scholarship 00:15:58 or funded, um, to go to dental school that was paid for was because that she wrote on there where she come from, 00:16:07 her work ethic, all that stuff, how she was raised and that she wanted to go back to the urban community. And she wanted to, to be, she wanted 00:16:14 to practice in that community. Well that's what this was. This was about, you know, going back to rural areas. 00:16:19 That's what the whole thing stemmed around. And that got her that scholarship because of, she talked about her work ethic 00:16:27 and how she got raised and she spent her summers out there bailing hay. She runs one of the combines 00:16:32 and she was working ground and planting beans. And like she wrote all this in her, in her essay. And that's how she got accepted in. 00:16:39 And she had other people that were way more qualified to get in. She got in because of workout. Mm-hmm. That's that son. 00:16:47 You don't get to raise your kids like that every day. You are worried we're gonna go down the road of ugly. We've been mostly talking about the good Joe. I like it. 00:16:52 I like it. But I feel like that I changed that momentum. Well there's no, you actually did. You did. 00:16:58 I liked it because I, you know, there's good, bad and ugly about everything and you know, in life and in business, et cetera, et ceteras good, bad and ugly. 00:17:05 Um, yeah. But it comes down to your attitude. Damien, the good game. I appreciate that. The good, bad. And he's become a, my counselor, the good, the bad and ugly. 00:17:14 I like that talented. That talented. I'd like to be me. The good, the bad, the ugly. Your utiliz your treatment of the environment. 00:17:23 Just from people our age. Look back at how things were when we were kids to today. And I have tell this to the non-agricultural friends 00:17:30 that I'm like this idea that somehow we were pure in the n you know, 40 or 50 years ago. 00:17:35 My brother and I were out there when I'm 10 years old and he's 17 with a jug of penicillin injecting this cow. And you know, she's a downer. 00:17:43 Well, you know what, this ain't gonna work. She can get hauled off the slaughter. And humans ate that. So the idea that somehow food was safer 40, 50 years ago, 00:17:51 I'm like, yeah, I was, I was out there treating that downer cow. And trust me, the food wasn't safer. 00:17:55 'cause I was out there sticking it with penole. We're better. Food is safer. See, those are the kind of farmers that make all 00:18:01 of us look bad, you know, that how things work. And then I'll tell you what, what about the other stuff? The atrazine the chemicals that we touched And then you, 00:18:10 I'll go through some of the utilization, the practices. The good is that we we're, That's the good thing about being in the south. 00:18:15 We, we we're way further behind on that stuff. You know, we ain't really figured out that they Still farming like 56. We 00:18:21 Ain't really figured out that they say Roundup gonna get cancer. I mean, you farming ain't really figured that out yet. It's 00:18:25 Salt. What about, Yeah, What about I say glyphosate, right? Yeah. Our, our environmental protocols and practices and the, 00:18:35 and animals, et cetera, we're so much better. The good is how far we've come on that the bad, maybe we're not quite as far along as we, 00:18:42 we like the ugly is, uh, a lot of food is produced to Kevin's point in places that are more primitive where there's more environmental degradation going on in 00:18:53 many places outside the United States Right. That are not following and adhering to the practices that we've gotten to. 00:18:59 I mean, I think that we're providing in the, the American farmer is probably absolutely positively ma providing the healthiest, safe, 00:19:09 safest food food in the world. Yep. There's no question about that. And it doesn't matter if we're talking about protein 00:19:16 industry or the, you know, carbohydrates or whatever, whatever we're raising, it is safe. And the food safety that's out there, the regulations 00:19:23 that's put upon us, the way that we've had learned how to use fertility, right. The cutback on the chemistry, everything that we're doing, 00:19:31 nowhere else in the world is doing what? And it's, and at the time we was completely in disagreement with it. 00:19:36 Absolutely. Like when that first hit, you've been completely disagreement. And then you see the big picture and you say, 00:19:40 You mean the regulation And the regulation. Then you see the big picture and you understand, well, well, you know, we've always got avenue around this. 00:19:45 Well, and you see the reason, and it's for the greater good. I mean, it killed us when, when they, when they put all 00:19:50 that regulation on us in our area, 20 something years ago. I'm telling you right now, you want talk about farmers like 00:19:56 scratching our head like we have to, like literally, I've said this many times, but you had to reinvent yourself. Yeah. You didn't have any other choice 00:20:04 because it was only this amount of fertilizer that you could put on and, and in, you know, ERs and phosphorus and that's it. 00:20:10 And we never farmed like that before and we got raised the same crop haul. You better come outta gear. Like you 00:20:16 are not in the same gear. You ain't plowing, you ain't explain, we were talking good, bad and ugly. The ugly is some people didn't make the adjustment 00:20:23 and you say that's ugly boy, they, they kind of, uh, got, you know, pushed outta business 00:20:26 because they couldn't comply. They didn't know how to farmers way, there was some older farmers that, that said, 00:20:30 you know what, it's time to hang it up. I'm gonna hang it up. I'm gonna send it to another generation. 00:20:35 You go figure it out because I ain't farming like that. And, and that happened. Yeah. That was a real thing. But I would say the majority of the farmers stuck it out. 00:20:43 Um, never switched gears. And they went, they went after it and they, they start to think of things very differently. 00:20:49 Yep. Just like we did and everybody else. Yeah. I mean that, that community came together and they learned how to form and it's very different. 00:20:55 All right. Good, bad, ugly, uh, maybe a bad or ugly component of it. It took a stiff regulation to make you better at your game 00:21:03 and you don't like to give credit to that. But look at what high fertilizer prices did. It forced you guys to get a lot more judicious about 00:21:10 fertility application, which ultimately is better for your economics and better for the environment. It took a huge run up in fertility prices 00:21:18 to force you to do that. That's the ugly part. The good part is once you adjust, you're like, oh, I got this. 00:21:24 Yep. Well the other part of that is, is you start to realize that I didn't need to worry about that bank 00:21:29 of fertility in my, in my soul all the time. And I'm not saying that we still, you still don't have to worry about that balance or that bank. 00:21:35 But when you start to realize that you can worry about growing that plant, Kevin talks about all the time, you know, you're, you're, 00:21:41 we're not growing an acre. We're growing a plant. Yeah. You're talking about that plant. And once you learn what that plant needs 00:21:48 and then you step back and you look at the ugly side is, is holy crap, how much money have I spent in years past 00:21:55 that I didn't need to spend? Like, and it's gone and you're never gonna get it back. You've, you applied enough fertility to one 00:22:01 of your farms five or six years ago to grow quote unquote four oh bushel corn. And he's never seen it in on his yield maps ever. 00:22:10 And that ain't come back. Yeah. It's never coming back. Like you can't say, oh well that's still there because the reality is you've you've talked about a lot. 00:22:15 But, but the smart thing was he done that in a very small, uh, controlled plot so he could document that cost. 00:22:22 It wasn't like he just went out and threw all this fertility on 180 acres. Block 80 acres. Yeah. It was 20 acres outta 180. 00:22:29 You don't, and you talk about regulations being good, but they're also a tremendous amount of regulations that are are bad. 00:22:35 I didn't say they're good. I said our adjustment to them. Well, well we was, we was leaning towards per, you know, 00:22:41 being positive on regulations. Some regulations are good and then there's a lot of 'em that need to be changed 00:22:46 and brought up to date that they're 50 years old. Yep. They don't work. And what we're running into is we go back to 00:22:52 that 1% population, one and a half percent population of farmers. But then we got the other that's controlling what we do 00:23:00 and trying to tell us how to farm. And they've never been on the farm and, you know, well we b***h and 00:23:05 and complain about that all the time as it's because we don't wanna get involved. We wanna stay on our Yeah. 00:23:10 But but we don't want, we don't want to educate somebody or promote something. And you, we got to tell our story behind it, 00:23:15 behind the scenes and we don't tell our own story and then we complain when, when, when it happens. Exactly. What are we complaining about? 00:23:22 Well, you, you shouldn't, you shouldn't complain. We gotta, we gotta try to help. We shouldn't be complaining. We should be educating. We need to get involved and educate. 00:23:29 And I think the farmers are doing a better job today doing that and getting members in the legislative branches 00:23:35 to understand and bring them out to our farms. I mean, I remember we didn't want nobody to show up on our farm. 00:23:41 Mm-hmm Man, you seen the government tag. You was like, oh s**t, I'm gonna get to the back boys, I ain't here. 00:23:45 Yeah. You know, you know. But now we've got to educate that generation and get 'em in there. Well that goes back to exactly what we talked about, 00:23:53 you know, in, in previous things. Just like we grow our crop. Proactive. Reactive. Yep. Reactive is gonna cost you money. 00:23:59 Proactive is gonna make you money. We gotta be proactive about it. We gotta stop sticking our head in the sand. Yep. 00:24:04 By the way, I, I think it's very important to illustrate and talk about this right now. I never said regulations are good. 00:24:11 I think we have to point that out right there. I don't want our fan, I don't want our fan base to fact check. 00:24:14 Wait a minute, Mason over here cheering on. Fact check, fact check, fact check. I said, I said 00:24:21 that the good is we adjusted to it pretty well. And you guys have, they're all joking aside and you say, oh, down the south 00:24:26 we're still, you're not either. I've been to your farm, you're, you're at the front of the path on everything you guys do. 00:24:30 I'm just saying, you know, it's just the regulations that we've had come our way through the years, through the generations, a lot 00:24:36 of them have been for the greater good. You know, and now like I said, there's some reg a lot of regulations that need to be updated. 00:24:42 Yeah. I ain't saying they need to be took out. They should be Updated. They could come in with, 00:24:45 with our exact nutrient management plan that would make you guys adhere to exactly what we have to do in your areas. 00:24:52 And it wouldn't change a damn thing for y'all. Yeah. Because We're really already doing It. 00:24:56 'cause you're already doing it. That's being provac. Well, I mean just look at, you look at a lot of university data. 00:25:02 They do a great job, but a lot of their recommendations aren't practical because the professors is never farmed. 00:25:10 They, they understand the concept behind it and they do a great job molding those students, getting 'em ready to come and teach 'em things 00:25:17 that they may not learn on the farm or they might have to learn the hard expensive way. But the fact is, you know, 00:25:23 and you know, we're split applying so much fertility now instead of putting it all out up front, like 00:25:29 what traditionally done. Right. And you know, university standard on corn is a 1.25 pounds of hydrogen per bushel harvested bushel of corn. 00:25:37 And most of us sitting here at the table is 0.6 to 0.8, which we like. And the whole country's probably 0.9. Yeah. 00:25:43 The whole country. I mean, if you're putting out 1.25 pounds per nitrogen per bushel, you're not making much money then. 00:25:50 Well the, the university's also gotta be very careful of, of what they say. If they go out there and say that 00:25:56 every farmer every can grow on 0.5. That that's right. That's right. Something gets proved by regulation. 00:26:02 Well they're not trying to screw us, but there's more to it than saying you're going to do it on 0.5 or 0.8 or one pound per bush. 00:26:09 Its when am I going apply it so it's available to that crop. What levels? I'll give you an ugly, 00:26:15 sometimes the ugly is the recommendations you're getting from the university aren't just pure information. 00:26:19 They might have a little bit of, shall we say, financial bastardization from who funded some of their research. 00:26:26 I, I don't know it, I don't, I don't, I don't agree with that. You don't think so? No, I don't agree with that 00:26:30 because I you think of some of the studies that some of these universities have done, especially in North Carolina. 00:26:34 Yeah. I mean most of the research that, a lot of research, I shouldn't say most, a lot of research on a lot of stuff 00:26:41 that's way outside the box thinking has been done in North Carolina and I'm implementing that on my farm and it has helped me get through it. 00:26:48 Period. What, you know, I'll tell you from sitting on the board, I've sat right there in meetings 00:26:52 and had a company that paid a lot of money to do research, paid for this research and come back the researcher 00:27:01 throw 'em under the bus and you're like, there's no way you got them findings. And I, I can't believe you just said that 00:27:08 'cause we're using the product on our farm and not in this result. It works for us. So, 00:27:13 and a lot of them now take the pro approach if they ain't got multiple years of support. 00:27:20 A lot of times they're, it's technology's done past them before they get to the point they promote that product. 00:27:26 Well it was like that when I was in school. When I was in school. One of the reasons, I shouldn't say one of the reasons I got kicked out, 00:27:31 but when I, when I was, I had a lot of reasons I got thrown out. But six wasn't it? Yeah. It was a bunch of, yeah. 00:27:37 So last think at six. Yeah. But one of the things that was, that bothered me the most is, is when we were in there in, 00:27:43 you know, you know, crop class or whatever, we were in agronomy, whatever when we were in there. 00:27:49 So you actually did go to class. They were so not a lot. Um, we were so far behind from 00:27:54 what we was doing in real life. I would argue with every professor, professor. Like, I'm like, that's wrong, that blah, blah blah blah. 00:28:02 And that's, it got me in a lot of trouble. Which I didn't care 'cause I was argumentative and they always said that I had problems. 00:28:08 What would happen if we sat in on a few classes right now? I'm just saying that they, y'all 00:28:13 y'all need to go teach a lab. I I Don't teach anything. I just wanna, 00:28:16.175 --> 00:28:16.885 00:28:17 I'll tell you, it's interesting. They were far behind on and they're, they're not that far behind now. 00:28:22 That's, but they are a little bit further behind than what's going on in the real, in the real world in my opinion. 00:28:27 Alright, so good, bad and ugly. That's a bad thing. The universities and the ag schools as good as they've been for a lot of things in ag. 00:28:33 They're not where you are. We gotta get things wrapped. They can't be good, bad and ugly. Gimme a last one. Good or bad or ugly about the business of agriculture. 00:28:40 Well the good is the opportunities there. The ugly is the financial stress that it takes to manage the business. 00:28:48 You gotta, you're stress would great. It's all lollipops over here. Only good. What's all the good, the 00:28:55 Good is this is about to wrap up and we ain't gotta see that hat on no more. Um, Amen on that one buddy. 00:29:00 Good, bad and ugly. You got anything for me? I'd say the good is, is I'm gonna agree with Kevin that, that there's a tremendous amount of opportunity 00:29:08 for the next generation out there in agriculture because it's so big. It's so wide open. There's so much technology, there's 00:29:14 so many new things coming. I think that it's absolutely wide open. There's a lot of hope out there. 00:29:20 Um, the ugly side is, is right now we're in a downturn. Um, you know, the bad is, is some of us ain't gonna come outta it. 00:29:28 It's that simple. Yeah, that's, that goes from bad straight to ugly. That goes from bad straight to ugly. 00:29:33 The consolidation part of it is where you're going with it. It's gonna be that it's gonna be ugly. 00:29:37 'cause there's gonna be some people that, uh, they, the, the, the farm, the farm for them is in the rear view mirror 00:29:42 and that's gonna be in, uh, but that's been going on for a long time too. Yeah. Temple Roads, Kevin, ew, Chad Henderson. 00:29:49 Huge fans of me and my Clint Eastwood impersonation. Especially right here. We're going see my mul. Don't think that my wheel thinks you're laughing at Yale. 00:29:57 Terrible. The good and bad and ugly come at you from the grain room. You know what, we do this quite often. 00:30:00 We want you to join us so you can pull up a chair right here, figuratively. Pour yourself a drink and take part of the conversation. 00:30:05 It's a lot of fun. Talk about cool stuff that impacts you. And we are so glad you joined us. Till next time. Cheers. 00:30:09 From the green ring you're trying to say That wasn't good. 00:30:11.885 --> 00:30:12.005