Is it Nature or is It Nurture? | The Granary

00:00:00 Nature versus nurture. It's a phrase we hear a lot. Sociology, child development. Is it you or is it just natural? 00:00:07 What about if it's your crops? What if it's about your entire season? Is it nature or is it nurture? Who's gonna take the credit? 00:00:15 And have there been years where sometimes it's not your control at all? And sometimes if it wasn't 00:00:19 for you, you wouldn't have had a crop. That's what we're talking about. My friends Tommy Roach from Nature's Tipple, Rhodes 00:00:25 and Matt Miles from Extreme Ag in this episode of the CRA on a farm. The work's never really done. 00:00:31 We're calling the day anyway because my friends from extreme ag are coming over. You ready for a conversation 00:00:36 with some real farmers about real issues? And the best part, you are invited. Pour yourself a drink, grab a snack. 00:00:45 Most importantly, pull up a chair. Welcome to the Grainery. Hey guys. 00:00:56 Nature nurture. There's been times in your career where you saved a crop. There's been times where it was nothing but nature 00:01:02 and you got a big yield and you got a plaque and you lock you. You gotta admit it really wasn't you. 00:01:07 Am I right? Oh yeah, absolutely. The first time I ever grew the, the high yield soybeans and it goes nature. 00:01:12 Oh yeah, a hundred percent. You Got the credit. I got the credit. All right. When you look at, uh, a lot of people that are, you know, 00:01:20 very excited and they wanna go and brag about how good they are at farming, there's a little bit of luck sometimes, period. 00:01:26 Absolutely. I mean, it takes both, you know, to you, you gotta have a, you all intelligence and no luck. You're going to go south. All luck and no intelligence. 00:01:37 I guess you'd stay north, but you gotta have both. Tommy, you've been in this game for a while. You're in a fertility business, you're in a agronomic, 00:01:45 uh, expert. You see this nature versus nurture. Do You know what he called him? I did hear that. I just 00:01:53 Again mean I, I caught and asking Aggro Questions and he'd sometimes he'd be like, well, I don't know. Would you see his face when he caught it? Yeah. 00:02:00 I appreciate his ability. He, he's, he's, he's the all knowing wise sage up on the hill, but he doesn't act like it anyway. 00:02:07 What do you think when you look around? Sometimes you're like, yeah, you really didn't have anything to do with it. 00:02:12 You're not the reason that you had a big crop. This was all because of nature. It never hurts to be a little lucky every now and then. 00:02:19 'cause I don't think we give 'em enough. We try to, we try to plan everything to the T but it helps to have a little luck 00:02:30 because you can't like grow on a plant. You cannot give it everything it needs Exactly. At the right time. We try. Yeah. 00:02:38 But I think we, when we get into topics of nitrogen applying too much, I think we forget that there is a base down there that's called soil that 00:02:50 supplies a lot of fertility that we don't account for. Well then I wanna, I wanna say this to kind of defend what I was saying earlier. 00:02:57 Environment is my, is what I'm talking about on, on luck temple. And I talk about this all the time. 00:03:02 If it's hot at night in the summer, I know my crops are gonna be less than they would the year that the first year that we'd done the soybean record, 00:03:10 it was Midwestern weather. Yeah. I mean that's what, when I said that's what got me and that, that's what, right. 00:03:15 If we're having Midwestern weather, I've got a big crop. Yeah. You got an opportunity because you're not gonna stress out 00:03:20 your plants with a hundred degree overnights for 40 nights. Exactly. All that nature versus nurture. 00:03:27 Well, I'll go, I'll back Matt up about the soybean thing. You know, this year, um, we put up some, 00:03:34 I I feel like we're gonna put up some pretty good numbers on a lot of our trials that we did this year. 00:03:39 We learned a lot of stuff from our trials this year. And I, and I feel like it's not what we did, Tommy, do you feel like it was No, 00:03:48 because it was average across the board of everybody's trials that were, that were higher. It wasn't just any one. 00:03:53 But what I'll say is, is what happened this year with our soybeans is, is we got enough rain early on and we never got too wet 00:04:00 and we were warm enough where they could grow, but then we got real hot, real dry when they were real small. 00:04:06 Mm-hmm. And beans like to be stressed when they're young and the vegetative stage 00:04:11 and the weather did all of that for us where we didn't really have to do anything. And then when the rain turned on is when we needed, 00:04:20 we were setting pods and it was a perfect situation to, honestly, sometimes it sets up for a perfect storm. 00:04:26 And that's exactly what happened in, in that instance. It's done, it did to me last year in corn. I, and the exact opposite thing happened in corn this year 00:04:35 for me, you know, our yields at, at home irrigated, I'm talking about Yeah. Have dramatically, you know, dipped 00:04:42 because I was calling Matt all the time. I'm like, I can't handle this heat. I don't, I don't know what to do with this. 00:04:48 I don't know how you can mitigate stress of nighttime lows being 95 degrees and daytime highs of a hundred, 405 to 00:04:59 for numerous days how you get around this. And he said, you don't, you have to plant in front of it. Hope that you beat 'em. Okay, well we've 00:05:05 Talked about before, like, uh, uh, products that are stress ance and you know, Kelly got big on stress mitigation a couple 00:05:12 years ago and you have to, you said that when I was down at your place, I was down there in the summer 00:05:16 and you told me it wasn't even bad. I mean, I almost grow gills. It was about a hundred percent humidity. 00:05:22 And uh, you also, as I recall you, you probably stick to alligator on me. But anyway, I've forgiven you about all that. 00:05:28 But the point is, you said this isn't even bad. And I said it gets a lot worse than this. And you said, oh yeah, it gets way a lot worse than this. 00:05:34 So if you're not doing stress prevention on everything, but after stress prevention, that's all the nurturing 00:05:40 You can do. Well, yeah. There's only so much and, and Tommy and I talked about this last year, you know, there, 00:05:45 you know, in a year like this, my trials are gonna be a lot, a lot less productive than, than in a, in 00:05:53 what I consider a normal year. Mm-hmm. You know, there's a certain point where you can put everything you want to in that plan. 00:05:59 I think you alluded that earlier. And something in in nature is gonna overcome that. You know, if the good Lord wants 00:06:06 something to stop, it's gonna stop. I can promise you that. That's why you, you talk about, we, 00:06:13 we talk about late season fertility and in your environment it just doesn't work. Yeah. Because what are you dealing with in June or 00:06:22 July? Yeah, that's, that's when, when my late, my late season is, is my hottest time of the year. 00:06:27 Do you think that your crop is racing so hard that you can't get in that window? Right. My grain field, Is that what you think? My grain field 00:06:32 period is probably what percent is my grain field to his 60 y your time? I'm talking about time to fill it. 00:06:39 Half, half as much time. Half, Not quite half, but Probably 60 I it takes, you get a 40% longer grain field than I do. 00:06:46 I would say Yeah. Slow. It slowly feels where mine races. It's funny how much that that can change everything. 00:06:52 But I think that that's the beauty of, you know, Tommy taught me about, you know, being able to, to feed that crop as we needed with these percentages. 00:06:59 You know, let's just use 200 pounds of nitrogen that you're gonna use and let's say the crop needs 18% of it at the at, in the first stages from 00:07:09 emergence to V six. So take that number 200 times that percentage and be able to fulfill that. 00:07:16 And when you can do that, it makes a big difference. But it makes the difference on the ROI. That's what I saw. You know, that return on your investment was huge 00:07:23 because what ended up happening is, is nature threw me a curve ball and it stopped raining and it allowed me to cut out all the other applications that 00:07:32 You, you Needed. Exactly. And then what happened? We got a little bit of rain and all of a sudden it saved itself 00:07:39 and then I ended up taking a pretty decent crap of it and never even side dressed while this, We talked about that when it was crazy. 00:07:44 We talked about that when it was going on. He is like, I don't know what to do. I said, well, dry land, don't front load it, 00:07:51 you know, because you're gonna run. He's like, well I've always frontloaded make a good yield. I said, I wouldn't front load it. 00:07:55 Yeah, because you're gonna be putting all your money out to with all this. It's, it's, well, it's only good money after bad. 00:08:00 It's good money before bad. But It worked out because you got the weather and everything straightened out. 00:08:03 But it could've went south on you pretty easy already On top bad about any particular person. But you've been in this business your whole career 00:08:09 and these guys have been in this business their whole career and we've all heard somebody coffee shop talk. 00:08:14 Somebody that sucks as a farmer that blames nature. And you want to say shake 'em? Uh, no, it wasn't ideal, but guess what, it's, you 00:08:22 Don't bring up my name again. No, you, I, I think you see it less than you used to because I think the products are better 00:08:28 and the technology is better and farmers to be in this game still are better. But I think you still got people 00:08:34 that are blaming nature when it's them. Yes. Well yeah. We're, we've, we've talked about this a lot before. 00:08:40 Every farmer wants to blame the weather. Yeah. And and even though I'm blaming the weather for a lot of my failures, I have have, I've got a lot of successions 00:08:49 by the things that we do to our crop today to, to compensate to that. Now does it compensate fully? No. Yeah. 00:08:57 Timbers may compensate better than mine does 'cause he might not get as hot most of the time. But we've gotta quit blaming every failure 00:09:03 on the weather. 'cause they're not all Well you blame weather first you blame the seed company next and the fertility company comes. Usually your 00:09:09 Ground is second. I'm glad. Well Home it's, well yeah, for me, everybody that I hear from it's, it's weather. 00:09:17 It's the seed company. This fertility company. We're like the farmer's never gonna blame himself. No. You Know, but honestly 00:09:25 that's where, that's kind of where it falls. Is that the pecking order to, well me is that, is that the right pecking order? 00:09:29 It's the weather. He wants to say he's, he here. I'm glad it wasn't fertility first, but typ weather is typically number one. 00:09:36 But you're sitting here and I I'm on Twitter a lot and if you go to Illinois, let's say, um, they do the same thing they've been doing 00:09:48 because you can throw fertilizer, throw seed corn out on this concrete and grow 250 bushel corn 00:09:55 Would, theyve been good. Why wouldn't you get complacent Would com would complacent too. 00:09:59 I mean they, but then they, they gripe about the weather, but yet look at what they're doing 00:10:06 with up front loading in the fall. Typically they, they'll just broadcast dry fertilizer. And that's, that's what they normally do. They're 00:10:14 Not Yeah, but look at their ROI on it. So you can't really argue with 'em. They got a good ROI But Are they grow it tremendous. But 00:10:21 The reason why About what they would have if they did it. Right. The Reason why they do It, 00:10:24 everybody said they're not doing it right. They've been doing, they've been doing it for a long time. Reason 00:10:28 Why they do it is because they want to keep the bank up. I mean, you is anybody, is anybody keeping up 00:10:35 with banks? Alright, Let's talk about this then. So let's talk about the bank. So I'm not arguing with you, 00:10:41 but I'm gonna say something to, to your side. How many times have you seen a tree in your yard? Damien that's got a fungicide, it's got a fungus in it. 00:10:50 It's got a deficiency in it. Yeah. And it needs to be fixed because it's messed up. Something's wrong with it. Yeah. 00:10:55 Otherwise it's gonna, how many times have a many, how many times have you seen that in a woods where forest not nowhere near as much. 00:11:01 Right? Because the biological activity out there is on fire and it is putting it back in the soul. 00:11:07 Or it could be survival of the fitness, but yeah. It, it could be for survival of the fitness. You're right. And you're not as worried about one in the woods 00:11:12 as you are about the one in the yard. But very rarely do you see that. Yeah. It's because nature is taking care of itself out there. 00:11:19 We're constantly in our yard just like we're in our fields messing it up. Yep. Well You take a prime example of that. 00:11:25 If you take a field at home and you lay it out, so you've had it in soybeans, rice, corn, whatever, for 150 years 00:11:34 and you put in CRP, what does it grow back in? It don't grow back in pigweeds and Bermuda grass and barnyard grass. 00:11:41 It grows back in blue. Steam and trees and things that some bushes. So where, where does those seeds 00:11:48 come from? Where are those seeds at? They're In there. We didn't plant 'em. So they're still in the ground from 150 years ago. From 00:11:53 Years ago. Yeah. Right. So the nature deal, there's something to that. Right? So we just said that there's, 00:11:58 the farmer's gonna never blame themselves. It's gonna be nature, the weather, whatever, whatever. Now there's about probably a a and you tell me, 00:12:07 'cause you, you're the ones out there. There's a bunch of probably easy fixes that you almost, again, you wanna shank people 00:12:12 and say, Hey, you keep blaming nature. You realize if you'd have done this and this, you'd have been 25% better. 00:12:18 Well, I think that's what you're saying. Well, and, and you know, Kelly's not here, but He's, he's, thank God He's come on to the, to the idea. 00:12:27 And it's, it's a great, I it is not an idea. It's a fact that look what look what balance gets you. Yeah. And you know, too often, 00:12:36 and I mentioned nitrogen a while ago, but too often that's what's thrown at a perceived problem. If you want to get more yield, you throw that at it. 00:12:45 Well that's the wrong thing to do because you're getting everything out of bounds. Yeah. And it goes back to the, to the woods. Yeah. Yeah. 00:12:53 It, it's left to nature and, and it knows how to manage it. But you're not out there screwing with it. 00:12:58 Well, what we've done is we're taking nature, which is mostly grassland and woods and we're saying, oh, we don't want, we don't want 00:13:05 what was intended for this land. We wanna grow corn, beans, rice, peanuts, whatever. You know, and that's where the fertility has to come in. 00:13:14 You know? 'cause it didn't naturally grow there. So we have to compensate for that with, with fertility products that, that specific plant needs 00:13:22 that maybe those trees in the woods don't need. Yeah. Or they don't need the same amount of it, whatever. But on the other side, there is an argument 00:13:29 how much bigger and how much more timber could we grow if we were fertilizing it. Right. Yeah. You remember that, that too. Alright. Yeah. 00:13:35 I'll go to nurture and I'll worry with you. All right. You've got more than one kid. And since, you know, we brought up the topic, 00:13:43 nature versus nurture. It's always in child development. You know, sociology, we talk about these things. 00:13:48 How much better of a nurturer are you now than you were early on? Just like you were a pro 00:13:54 With my crops or kids? Which ones do you want? Well, Let's go both. You know why? Okay. Because you were probably a more high 00:14:00 energy parent the first time. And by the fifth time it's like, ah, it's all fine. You know, who cares? Yeah. 00:14:06 He is playing with sensors and stuff. But anyway, You do Get also more laid back about what really matters. 00:14:11 You probably are like, yeah, he, he, he, he's doing this. But big deal. You put that with your crops also. 00:14:18 Stuff that you used to stress about as a nurturer didn't need to be stressed about. And now you've gotta dial down to 00:14:24 what really matters. Alright, Let's start with the kids first. I'm pretty, I'm I'm not very good nurturer, um, 00:14:31 with anybody. And it's, and, and my kids especially I've, I've been pretty hard on him and it's friends. 00:14:38 Yeah. And it's friends. Yeah. You have, and people we do business with. You have friends? No, not very many thing. I mean, none around home. 00:14:46 They're mainly just right here. And we're not that, you know what I mean? We're, we're really not that great of friends 00:14:50 and some sometimes, so I don't Wanna be on your speech now. So when you take the kids, it is a lot like the crop. 00:14:59 Each kid has to be nurtured differently than the other one in order to develop it into the best thing 00:15:07 they can possibly. Well they Have different personalities. They Might, but that's no different than different crops. 00:15:12 Exactly. And in different circumstances. So if you, if you have a crop that's going through a stress, like you have a kid that's going through a stress, you have 00:15:21 to nurture them out of that stress the same way that you're gonna have to nurture that crop. Doesn't matter if it's sorghum, corn, sunflowers, soybeans, 00:15:28 it doesn't matter what it is. Whatever it went through, you have to nurture it out of that. 00:15:32 Are you a better nurturer of crops than have kids? Uh, yes, I've Met your kids. They're all Right. Yeah. My kids all 00:15:38 right. But it's, it's only like, honestly, it's like only the strong will survive around there. I mean, honestly, I, 00:15:45 I asked a, a question, I'll come back to it 'cause you didn't get right to it. Do you think you're better at nurturing today 00:15:54 than you were 10 or 20 years ago in farming? Just because of the experience? Like the stuff you used to worry about now, you know, 00:16:01 is not a big deal or you better at nurturing today than you were 10 or 20 years ago. 00:16:05 Okay. Absolutely. Yeah. I know I am because, um, I, I know more about the physiology. I don't know if that's the right word of the crop. 00:16:15 You know, we've learned so much with technology and with, with companies coming in here and saying, Hey, if you do this, you'll get this. 00:16:21 And so the information we've gleaned, I know how to take care of the crop better. Just like you said with with Sidney, you know, I ain't know 00:16:31 what I've done at all by the time Abby come along, it was like, this is easy. Yeah. Not that nurturing crops are easy, 00:16:37 but there's more information that we can glean now than we could 20 years ago. The problem is, is can you dial it all down? 00:16:44 That's the problem. Willing your tail. So it mean we could, we might have to aid an extra pay us or we might have to take a pass us out. 00:16:50 Right. That we normally do. I mean, think about the way we used to side dress all them years ago. 00:16:54 We used to side dress all our corn, top dress sidedress, whatever you wanna call it, man, when corn was that big 00:16:59 and cracked outta ground, we're putting on 120 to 140 pounds at end. I mean smoking it down. Yeah. 00:17:06 And if corn got that high and you weren't done at all, it's too low. That is screaming. Yeah. We missed our window. 00:17:12 We screwed up. Yeah. And now when corn's this high, I don't have hardly nothing on it. That's What I'm talking about. The information 00:17:18 that we've been able to Get. That's what I'm saying. So I think that there's periods Damon, where we're not 00:17:24 as stressed about to hurry up, get this on, get this on, because we know that we can stretch that out 00:17:30 and we can do a lot better job. And when you spoonfeed from what you and I have learned, Tommy with what we're doing, 00:17:36 I think it's incredible. I mean, we're talking about this year on a dry land year on some of them fields. 00:17:42 We were, you know, we were harvesting 170, 180 bushel corn with 120 pounds in. 00:17:48 That doesn't normally Happen. So look at, look at what genetics has done because what you just said, you know, you used 00:17:57 to be doing 20 years ago that if you were screaming on nitrogen here, and if it got to here, you were way That that wasn't as many years ago as you wanna think, 00:18:07 You know why. But, you know, look at today, all the genetics today, soybeans, cotton, corn, they are much better at 00:18:19 utilizing nutrition early. Yep. Where you don't have to put on near as much early, but we've talked about with podcasts here, 00:18:28 maybe we'll get into it about what we're doing now on the back end. We're having to, we're having 00:18:34 to feed more nutrition on the back end And that's to feed that genetics. We see that big. Right? Here's when you take soybeans for instance, 00:18:41 you know, we talk about the burn burning on back all the time. When you were a kid growing soybeans, you want your soybeans 00:18:47 to be as big as they could, as fast as they could. Mm. Yeah. Today's world, we want 'em ugly. They start pie. Yeah, exactly. I mean, you take, 00:18:55 here's what I wanna see next. Right? So we talk about this nurturing the crop, and Tommy just alluded to it a minute ago, 00:19:01 and we talk about seed companies now we're gonna start looking at taking varieties. You know, we got a variety this year that 00:19:09 we had the same amount of fertility on and we treated it the right way. But somewhere in that, in that period, we had a, 00:19:17 we have a tremendous amount of tip back on, on just that variety. But we found that in that variety, if we change that scale 00:19:26 and when it's, when it's creating, you know, rows, you know, row long, not row 00:19:32 around on this variety row long it ran out on neurogen. Now why did it do that? But what we figured out is something that we did early on and we stimulate all this root growth 00:19:42 and we, we created a lot of plant mass by stimulating the root growth. And we drew this great big massive plan 00:19:48 and we used upper margin, so we kind of moved our efficiency. So all these things seem like they wanna tweak and change. 00:19:55 So I'm like constantly like thinking way outside the box. Now we need to take it to the next thing. 00:20:01 What about a variety? And then you're gonna start following those varieties because you know what, two, three years, 00:20:06 some of them varieties are gone by the time you figure it out, go. That's the problem. It's gone. 00:20:10 Well you take, but if you could keep the same family, you Take JBS field day, you know, that's what they do. 00:20:15 One side high production, one side low production, and then in, in each variety so they can see which ones will 00:20:21 react to the high production. Yeah. You know, to To to, to put more nurture to back to our top. Yeah. More nurturing van 00:20:27 On Johnny Verres field. Uh, he is got a field that's almost like, uh, it, it's uh, it's it's free range. 00:20:35 Yeah. His free range. Yeah. And he's got the other one where they're putting everything including the kitchen sink on that one. 00:20:42 That's nurturing times exponential. Well, we used to do the first steps plots at, at, at hefty, you know, and that you, 00:20:50 you never were involved in that. But I mean, I, I won the ROI more, um, I won the ROI as much as I did the high yield. 00:20:58 And I mean that would be lifts that that guys were putting out and, and I, and I'd look at it like I was stupid or something 00:21:04 and come out with a, with a high shield. Yeah. It all depends on the situation. The soil type, like you said, everything 00:21:11 factors into the amount of nurturing you're doing. If I'm working this clay, buckshot, sharky clay. Mm. It's not even remotely gonna be the same 00:21:18 as my beach sand that you've been on. So when You think Tommy about nature versus nurture, you're already admitted. 00:21:25 There's a time he had a Midwest type of a summer in southeast Arkansas and that's why he set a Record. Most money I've 00:21:30 made in my life on my crops. So that was nature. 2012 when A drought, give us an example of when nature screwed you, 00:21:37 but nurture saved your bacon. I'm sure that there's, there's, there's only so much you can do a again. 00:21:43 Yeah, go ahead. What You were you gonna probably talk about last year? Yeah. Bring that up. Go ahead. No, you tell him. 00:21:50 Well tell 'em about the phone conversation when I called. So I was actually walking in Nashville airport 00:21:56 and he had just gotten back from Kelly's. Yep. After being there for four or five days or whatever, he got home, he left everything in 00:22:06 what he thought was good condition. He got back and he, it his corn looked like absolutely dog crap. Yep. And no disrespect to dogs. 00:22:17 It could have been elephant crap, who knows. So what he determined was, um, a LS damage, A LS damage on top of that was the Canadian fire. 00:22:29 Yep. Had all that smoke. So we couldn't metabolize the chemistry. Right. So he called me walking through the airport, said, 00:22:36 we've got this problem, how do we get this plant out of it? And corn was yay high 00:22:45 V four to V five. So if you look at nutrient uptake, that's where today's technology information help. 00:22:54 If you look at what's going on right, then you better be targeting phosphorus, targeting micros. Yeah. Because he had no, no sunlight, no magnesium, 00:23:04 no core field, no photons going on. So we hit all this ugly looking corn with a heavy shot of phosphorus and a heavy, heavy load of micros. So 00:23:16 Nurturing saved your bacon. How many days? How many days more if you let it go for another three days, is your bacon cooked? 00:23:25 The crop was physically trying to die because all the crown roots were dead. And Tommy said, you gotta keep 00:23:32 that plant alive long enough passed. Yeah. He's like, you gotta keep the plant alive long enough that you, your, your brace roots are starting 00:23:39 to come out now and they start to get into the soil and then you'll get some of that nutrition out there. But without this, you're gonna be in trouble 00:23:45 and you're gonna have a massive hit on yield. Some places you might not. It plants might actually die. Yeah. Maybe not all of them, 00:23:52 but it could be a percentage of 'em die. That was the, so after learning that Tommy and I talked the rest year and the crop start coming out 00:24:00 and the crop started looking really good. Mm-hmm. And I'm like, I don't know what's going on here, Tommy, but it's, I know 00:24:05 that we're gonna have a decrease in yield, but it really looks like something. So we finished the crop off 00:24:11 with foliar nutrition and we got done. That's the best averaging irrigated corn crop I've ever taken in my life. Have you ever 00:24:18 Heard of A sand bagger? Yeah. Is that, listen, listen. It wasn't Sandbagging. 00:24:24 Tommy's seen this horn. Good. Tommy. Was it Sandbagging? No, this was not, they act like they're not good 00:24:31 to root you into a gambling contest and then they bring out their actual talent or their skills and they take your money. 00:24:36 Didn't that kind are we talking about And they lie? Yeah, of course. I I never Lied. How many times, how 00:24:41 many years have we been competing against each other on these contests? Soybeans, let's just take soybeans. 00:24:45 We started then we started five personal one. There wasn't even a contest. 5, 6, 5 or six years. Yeah. And every year he's got the SST crop. 00:24:53 It's the sickest crop and no way it's gonna make 80 bushels. And then when I come up with a yield, 00:24:59 Maybe I'm just a better nurturer Then he just blows me outta the wall. What I'm, I'm a better nurturer. 00:25:04 What I'm glad to hear is that of all things, Matt Miles brings this up. Matt's never been one to exaggerate 00:25:10 or over exaggerate how bad things are gonna be. I mean, a a a half inch of rain blew through Arkansas once. Tommy, 00:25:16 Can you take up for me and Mask? Oh, Mark's sitting there in between y'all too. All my crops are going blow down. 00:25:23 I'm a realist. I'd say sandbagger. Alarmist. Anyway, That might work. That work. Definitely a sandbagger 00:25:30 Ain. Words nurture. Get me outta here. Your thoughts on it because you are in the game and you, you've seen an extreme 00:25:36 of nurturing in fast fashion, saved a crop major sometimes can do more than you ever could with all the technology in the world. 00:25:44 What do you think major horse nurture? Get me outta here. I mean it's, it takes a little both just like luck versus, 00:25:50 you know, doing everything perfect. Um, you know, he was talking about nighttime temperature. If you don't get nighttime temperature under 75 degrees, 00:25:59 your goose is cooked. It has, that plant has no time to recuperate. You can do my geese everywhere. Well 00:26:03 That, that's why you have trouble. And, and he being the so My family didn't settle far enough north, right? 00:26:10 Is that what you're saying? Yes. And you take your sand to oh, we Pushed you south, get away from you. So, 00:26:16 Well when you, when you and will come down that, you know, will said, do you have top soil? 00:26:20 Or you just have soil on top of the ground? Pretty much soil on the top of the ground, Soil on top of the ground. We 00:26:26 talk about nature versus nurture. You know, it's not just a child development phenomenon, it's also what you do in agriculture 00:26:31 and production agriculture every day. Uh, sometimes you're lucky with the nature. Sometimes you've gotta be a really good nurturer. 00:26:37 And as we all just discovered, these guys have gotta be a great deal, better nurturers because from kin one to three 00:26:43 or five, in his case, you get better at it. Well that's also what we wanna help you do with your extreme ag uh, agricultural knowledge. 00:26:50 And you know what, if you pull up the chair at this table right here, mean pour yourself a drink, sit down 00:26:54 with people like Tommy Roach, temple Rhodes, Matt Miles, and me. You'll up your game. You'll also have a good time doing so. 00:26:59 Thank you so much for joining us at the table. 00:27:01.175 --> 00:27:02.525