Farming Podcast | Reduce Spray Water Volume Without Losing Coverage

00:00:00 How you can properly reduce the amount of water on your ground spray rig, and still get good coverage. 00:00:06 That's what we're talking about, and it's gonna help you farm more efficiently. In this episode of Extreme Acts guiding the curve, 00:00:13 Welcome to Extreme ags Cutting the Curve podcast, where real farmers share real insights and real results to help you improve your farming operation. 00:00:23 And now, here's your host, Damien Mason. Hey there. Welcome to another fantastic episode of Extreme Ice. 00:00:28 Cutting the curve. We got a good one for you today. I've got, uh, chase Garner with Spray Tech here. He's joined, uh, joined up with Chad Henderson. 00:00:34 Uh, chase was just over in Alabama with Chad yesterday, and I said, you know what? This is a great topic. Let's get this on the air here. 00:00:41 Uh, you're putting way too much water in your spray rig. You're hauling a lot of water. It's case 00:00:44 costing you a lot of time. It's inefficient, it's unnecessary. Uh, before we hit record, Mr. Henderson just said 00:00:51 to me, Damien, you know what? We're putting two gallons to the acre on a, uh, on a crop duster. 00:00:56 And why are we going out here with 20 gallons or 15 gallons on our ground spray rig? Well, you know what? You don't have to. 00:01:02 And, uh, Chad's got some experimentation going on, and it's gonna be something you should bring to your farm because you're hauling around a heck of a lot 00:01:08 of water unnecessarily. Chad, uh, it's a very good point. And you said, well, there's one reason because a drone 00:01:14 or an airplane forces product down, and so we've gone to putting all this water and spray rig, so we get good 00:01:20 coverage, but it's not necessary. So when did this dawn on you that you wanted to reduce the amount of water you're hauling around 00:01:27 When somebody else brought it to me? You know, I, I can't take this one at all. You know, most of the time, if, if it would've been a big, 00:01:33 uh, oh, then it would probably been mine. But, but usually, you know, we, we work with, uh, brewer Blessed and, and some of the guys over there. 00:01:40 And, and so Brewer Brewer's been working on this for a while. You know, he's got it, you know, in, in with another group. 00:01:46 And, and so, you know, this has been something coming. But, you know, back in the day, in the early nineties, you know, when we cotton, I mean, we do five gallon work, 00:01:54 or big, a big load was seven gallons. You know, you just, you had three, 300 and 400 gallon tanks. You just didn't, couldn't do 15 gallon water, you know? 00:02:03 Uh, so, so, you know, as the sprayers got bigger, all we did was increase the water and keep our load to same. Mm-hmm. Well, you need more water. 00:02:09 Well, you need more water. Mm-hmm. And, and so we, once we've, what we've figured out is once we fix our water, you know, 00:02:15 and get our water with the pH right, or get it what, whatever you need in to Bicarbon as the pH, you know, multiple things. 00:02:21 When you fix that water, then you can start doing these things and get the same kind of kill. 00:02:26 It makes sense that, uh, you've got this huge rig. What's the spray? What's the, what's the tank on your sprayer now? 00:02:32 Like 1500 gallons or something? These Are 12 is what we're running now. It's 12, So it makes sense. You've 00:02:36 got the capacity, um, everything about the machine is more efficient and got better technology. 00:02:43 Why not go ahead and just put more water in, then you for sure get the coverage. And then it was at your farm a few years ago. 00:02:48 We went out at nighttime with a company that we were working with. We put, uh, dye in the sprayer, 00:02:53 and we went out there with black lights. You'd have loved it. Chase. Uh, we were getting bit by mosquitoes. 00:02:57 It was 90 degrees at night, and we were climbing, climbing around, getting a itchy stuff. 00:03:00 We could have been drinking beer in the air conditioning, but instead we went and did that. That's how much we love our extreme ag following anyway. 00:03:05 And it was all about looking at coverage, looking at how much leaf, how much leaf on the crop was covered with the spray. 00:03:12 Makes sense. Put more water in, get more mist out there and get more coverage. But it's a complete waste of time 00:03:19 because you're hauling a lot of water and you're spending a lot of time filling up your thing. Uh, and, uh, you can cover a heck of a lot more acres. 00:03:25 So anyway, you, you kind of brought this topic to me, chase. Um, you're making this work 00:03:30 because you put products in there, that's where the spray tech comes in, but there's a lot of other things that are involved. 00:03:33 You've gotta also have a really good sprayer. You gotta make sure your tips are right. There's a bunch of other aspects 00:03:37 to this, but talk about the products. Why, why is it that the product is gonna make it effective to use less water? 00:03:45 Yeah. So the way that we're doing this is with the adjuvant and the oil. So it's kind of, it's kind of weird, um, how we're doing it. 00:03:53 But with the oil, we're actually using the oil for weight. And it, it's hard to say, okay, we're using the oil 00:03:58 and water, mixing it together, using the oil for weight. That's why we're doing it there. 00:04:02 But with the adjuvant, every component of the adjuvant is making your water better. And that's how we're able to, 00:04:09 when you make your water better, you're making the chemistries that you put in the tank better. So that's how we're able to do the, do it with that, with 00:04:16 that product, we're able to put that in the tank before we put any of the chemistries, any of the chemicals we put in the tank. 00:04:21 And then that's just making everything more, more effective, more efficient. And that's the way we're able to drop our water down. 00:04:27 Okay. So, by the way, if you're from maybe like, uh, Minnesota and you hear these guys saying oil, that means oil. 00:04:35 Uh, that's just our friend. That's just our friend from Southeast Arkansas. Okay. So the point is, uh, brewer blessed it, uh, a guy 00:04:42 that we work with a bit agronomic consultant came to you, Chad, and said, Hey, I've been doing 00:04:46 a bunch of experiments on this. Uh, does it work without, does does, does it work without the crop oil and the adjuvant? 00:04:55 Ooh, that's a good question because I just don't, you know, over the last three or four, I guess I'm what Chase probably five years deep 00:05:02 with, with some of this stuff, you know? And so I just kind of quit running. I don't really run my sprayer without the adjuvant, 00:05:08 you know, because we just, we're through testing that I'm not gonna keep testing something. Yeah. Because it works. It works. And when you, 00:05:14 and when Chase says it makes the water better, what we're talking about is it makes it, it makes the product get in the plant. 00:05:21 It, it's it, but It's pH So everything we put in a tank is trying to drive the pH up. 00:05:26 Okay. And the adjuvant is bringing the pH back down. So we have a neutral area that we wanna spray in. Okay. Well, some products want a little bit higher pH, 00:05:34 but it's not controllable. You know, it's not say, oh, I need a half a number better pH on this one load. I mean, you just try to get in the ballpark of it, you know? 00:05:43 Um, and, and 'cause we're looking at real day terms. We're talk, talking about spraying a thousand acres a day. You know, like, I'm not gonna check every sample of water. 00:05:51 Uh, but when we know what a combination is, we know where we need to be with it. Yep. With that being said, we put the adjuvant in 00:05:57 and bring the pH down, we get better keel and we get better uptake. A lot of times when people wonder why FS don't work, 00:06:03 it's not because of the F f's on point, it's because the water source and the pH got up in it and they don't get it in the plant. 00:06:10 So us as farmers, like, oh, that's snake oil, that, that don't work well, it's how do you know that? You know? So, and the next component is the tips. 00:06:18 You know, we're, we're still working through that. It's not, it's always a work in progress, but when you get down there, you know, uh, you, you get down 00:06:26 to where it's just, you just need coverage. You know, people ask, well, how low is too low? And I ask Brewer that, you know, how low is too low? 00:06:31 Well, it's the coverage of your pattern, you know? So if you've got a 15 inch sprayer on tips on 15 inches, you could get down pretty low 00:06:38 with pressure versus 20 inches or 30 inches. You have to have the overlap. Once you get the overlap, you're there. 00:06:45 And then the next part of it is you can't don't need to go over 28 PSI. 'cause that's where the oil and water separate. 00:06:52 So it, it is, it is. Don't just think you're going, oh, I'm gonna put this in and take off. There's just a few things you need to know. 00:06:57 Okay. 28 PSI, uh, I don't know how that compares to whatever, what would've been normal back when we used more water. 00:07:03 What is it? Is that more, Well, I mean, it's just psi as PSI. Yeah. I mean it was the same then, 00:07:07 but So when you, when you were Putting out, if you were putting out three times as much water in the mix, uh, PSI doesn't matter 00:07:13 as much just 'cause you're just, you're basically just, Well, it goes back to speed. So you know where your speed's at speed 00:07:19 and PSI work hand in hand. Right. So you can slow down and your PSI goes down, you can speed up your PSI goes up. So, you know, it's all about the speed. 00:07:27 Then we didn't have a speed, you know, then we put a sprayer in there and you put it in second gear. 00:07:31 You didn't have a hydro statute, you didn't have a set limit. You put it in third gear. Yeah, right. 00:07:35 You know, so you had to use the old jiffy jars, calibrate it, you know, and yeah. Yeah. Old cone tips. 00:07:42 So, speaking of tips, um, one thing is when I see, when I see what's coming out of an airplane, since we're kind of making that comparison to drones 00:07:49 and airplanes, it looks like just a little fog. And that would make you think that the droplets are really, really little. 00:07:56 But you said the key to, uh, doing less water in a mix is actually making your drops bigger. I don't know how I can do that. So how am I, 00:08:04 how am I emulating a drone or an aircraft with the amount of gallons, but then doing different droplet sizes 00:08:12 and still getting the same coverage? Well, as, as you're bringing your pressure down, your droplet size are getting larger. 00:08:19 Okay. So it's not a miss, it's not a fog. You take it down here in our heat. I truly believe in our heat that it is drying 00:08:26 before it tanks it up. Exactly. I mean, it is, it's a hundred percent drying off. So you fog and this, and it looks 00:08:31 beautiful behind your sprayer. And then you get down here and it's 95 degrees and we have to spray 'cause it's hot all the time. 00:08:37 Mm-hmm. Then, you know, I think it's doing that well with this big droplets and then we can get that coverage on the plant. 00:08:44 You know, it don't take as much. But what we're seeing is, you know, that's what I'm saying there, there's still work 00:08:49 to be done in a bi-directional tip or things like that, that, that we could do a better job. Okay. So the point is, it 00:08:56 Also still goes back too is, is if you let weeds get away from you and they're waist high, 00:09:02 I don't care if you're running six gallon or 26 gallon, you know, you, you've got to cover that weed. So another key to this thing is you can't let your 00:09:10 weeds get waist high. You know, you kill 'em when they small. Okay. So you can get by, you can get by to less gallons 00:09:16 'cause you don't need to coat, uh, as many square inches, uh, per acre of 00:09:20 We got bigger droplets Of, of, uh, yeah. Does this adjuvant change the droplet size? Chase, You, you gotta think too also, Damien, about the, 00:09:28 that is more concentrated product, right? So, you know, instead of a tank load, let's, for instance, when I was running 12 gallon of water, I'd put 25 gallons 00:09:37 in a tank load of 25 gallons of Roundup in a tank load of sprayer load, a hundred acre load. 00:09:43 Now I'm putting 50 gallons in, 50 gallons of roundup, 50 gallons of liberty. You know, it's, it's, it's, it's a load. Mm-hmm. 00:09:50 Yeah. And obviously there's concentration. Uh, does this, the product that you put out there, uh, change the droplet size, does your adjuvant change the 00:09:56 droplet size or just makes it so that the, the product that gets on there is more effective, It's gonna make it more effective. 00:10:03 So the spreader sticker on it, it's gonna make it, you know, spread on the leaf better, stick to the leaf better, 00:10:09 and then we're getting it into the plant. So that's, that's the biggest thing with that. There's so many components. 00:10:15 There's 11 different components with our adjuvant on what it does in the tank. And you take all components 00:10:22 and that's how everything is working together, making everything better. When Brewer called, brewer called me one day, 00:10:30 I'll never forget, he calls me and he goes, how much of this adjuvant do I need to run with three gallon work? And I go, are you running out of a drone or an airplane? 00:10:37 He said, I'm running out of a ground rig and this is the first I've ever heard of this. Mm. And I said, well, 00:10:41 I said, brewer, I'm not gonna lie to you. I said, you're gonna be the first person that, that I know of that that is gonna do this. You 00:10:48 Mean to cut the rate back, to cut the water quantity by that much? Yeah. And he, and he was asking, you know, 00:10:53 the rate on the, the abdomen for doing this? And, and we got to talking a little bit. And then, you know, he started doing it 00:10:59 and then we added the oil mix to the mix for weight. Um, and from there it just kind of has took off like a wildfire. 00:11:08 I mean, he's, he's got a bunch of different guys doing it. I've talked to a lot of those guys, um, that are, 00:11:13 that are running the, the low, the low volume work and, and they're, they're getting really good keels with it, you know? 00:11:20 And crop oil, the crop oil still works as a crop hole. So if you're going out with a, with a herbicide, you're heating that crop oil up. 00:11:27 And then another thing to take away from our crop in season is you're not gonna get a burn. 00:11:32 So, you know, a lot of crop oils, when you go to the top in season, it's gonna burn your, it's gonna burn your beans, your corn, 00:11:38 whatever you're going out over the top of, it's gonna burn the leaves a little bit. With ours, we're not getting as much burn little 00:11:44 to no burn, actually. So that's another benefit of doing this. You know, in season, you're not gonna get that burn 00:11:51 as you would from like a regular crop hole. You told me. Yeah. It, it, uh, it, it kind of worries me. 00:11:57 You know, I don't put crop oil, you know, it's gotta be bad for me to add crop oil to it. 00:12:01 And they, and brew, they come to me and chase say, Hey, we need to add this crop hole to it. I'm like, whoa, whoa, I don't get backed up a whole lot, 00:12:07 but I back up on crop hole, you know? But, but he's right. I mean, I haven't got any burn from this crop hole, you know? 00:12:14 Uh, when we were preparing this, chase said, uh, it's $2 88 cents an acre to put to put this in. I said, you put in with everything, whether it's fertility, 00:12:23 whether it's insecticide, herbicide, whatever is in the mix. And he said, yes. I said, so can I justify that? 00:12:30 Is, is that, is that an accurate economic comparison? And also do you, do you say, Chad? Yeah, I don't mind $2 and 8 cents. 00:12:37 I was gonna put an adjuvant in anyhow. And, uh, because now I can run twice as many acres, uh, on a load because I'm not hauling water around. 00:12:46 It's easily worth that. I mean, how do you look at the economics? So let's, let's look at it like my, the mix 00:12:51 that I'm using is more like $3 and 12 cents, but it's just always splitting hairs on the ounces. You know, whether you figure it on this rate 00:12:58 or that rate, you know, and mine is, I'm figuring on the rate of I'm just going to duck one jug in. 00:13:02 I'm not gonna start splitting ounces of jugs, you know, for, for these loads because it's still affordable. 00:13:08 But you're right. So, but the, the thing that most people are using, they're using conventional a MS to, to fix the water. 00:13:14 Right? Well that conventional a MS is is good. It's doing what it says it is, but it won't last. If you mix up a tanker load of it, it's going 00:13:21 to fall out within what chase four hours. Yeah. Yeah. It, it's not, it's not as long as you think if you mix up a sprayer load of it, it's going to fall out 00:13:29 before you get to tank empty. Yeah. I mean, it, it really is. So with that being said, that the a MS is somewhere around, 00:13:36 most people's rate is somewhere around 80, 85 cents an acre. So we are just for the adjuvant loan, 00:13:42 we are about double on the adjuvant, not counting oil to what the a MS is. But would you ever haul three bags, three 50 pound bags type 00:13:49 of sprayer or one jug? Mm-hmm. You know, there comes a time when when convenience and speed, I'll pay that other, I'll pay that other dollar. 00:13:57 Right. And obviously it's gonna cost, I mean the equipment, uh, you know, these machines, it's not just your time, uh, having a, you know, 00:14:05 a $700,000 machine is, uh, Let's talk about that one minute. So a sprayer don't have an, you know, 00:14:10 all the John Deere stuff now goes, it's on engine hours, you know, it used to be on separator separator hours, 00:14:16 but you know, a sprayer or tractor is just engine hours. So that's sprayer. 00:14:20 If it take, it's gonna take you one hour to put out a tank. Most times. One hour to put out a hundred acre load. Okay? 00:14:25 It takes you an average and, and we doing things to speed this up, but it takes you an average 00:14:29 of 20 minutes to fill up every time. Okay? So you sit there 20 minutes and you're paying the same rate per hour to John Deere 00:14:36 that it is when it's running ground. So if I could cut your, if I could make you another hour, I can make you another tank 00:14:43 and a half load a day on the same timeframe, I'll give you another tank and a half a day. How much money did I save you? Yeah. 00:14:51 And like I said, this, this is not on, this is not on a minimum waged, uh, hour. Yeah. This is on a piece of equipment 00:14:57 that's worth hundreds of thousands of dollars. That's correct. Which you start amortizing that over hours. Yeah. You're talking about a half million dollar machine, 00:15:03 You know, and, and even talking economics, you know, 85 cents for your a MS, that's just a MS Yeah. With the management, you're gonna have anti-D drift, 00:15:11 anti phone spreader sticker. We replace your a MS in the tank. You know? So I mean, you're getting all those different components 00:15:17 when you start, when you start putting pencil on paper and you start penciling out all these different things, like if you have to run anti-D drift, pencil that out, 00:15:24 you know, you start penciling everything, you're gonna be somewhere north of that five, $6 mark, you know, to get everything you're getting, you know, 00:15:31 with our, with our adjuvant. So, you know, that's, so that's another, you know, different way we need to look at, 00:15:37 you know, how we're doing this. You can't hop, he had to hop in there and do, do a little pitch. 00:15:42 But anyway. Yeah, you're right. You're getting a, well, I mean, I'm just saying, you know, you, you gotta you gotta compare apples 00:15:47 to apples, you know, if you're gonna compare That drift. Alright. Um, what do you think? 00:15:50 You've done it five years now and there's people that still think this is a little crazy because, oh no man, I, I don't, 00:15:55 I don't know if I trust myself or I dunno if my sprayer's, uh, calibrated enough, whatever. What mistakes do you think that you made? 00:16:01 Or what do you think? And the person that wants to do this that says, I'm gonna cut back 00:16:05 and I'm gonna do, like Chad, I'm gonna put in one third of the number of gallons of water that I used to and still get effective, uh, 00:16:12 spraying done. What do you need to tell them? So the biggest thing we had going this year is we had a good bit of preventive plant land. 00:16:18 And that's where we've done a lot of testing. 'cause we've gotta keep that land clean, you know, I don't need pigweeds on it. 00:16:23 And so we've got to do some testing on that. And most time, anything we tell you at extreme ag, we went way further than that. 00:16:29 So if I'm telling you six gallons Johnny Brill's running five gallon, we're going to three gallon work for, it's over 00:16:35 with, we'll be at three gallon. So we're going, I'm going to be twice further ahead than what I'm telling you that we can, we can do. 00:16:43 So imagine this, imagine getting in a sprayer and putting out three gallon and putting out 400 acre loads. Yeah. Now you don't need a guy sitting at the spray trailer. 00:16:52 You don't need, you put a spray trailer in a general location. Yeah. You know, this, this changes a game 00:16:56 on how much, how we can get done. I mean, you're talking about from going from one sprayer, from two sprayers to one sprayer, you know, um, it, it just, 00:17:04 it every operation's a little different. Now again, don't think that you need to make sure you get this system right. 00:17:10 'cause it's a system, you know, and we gotta get the tip right and the coverage. Right. And you gotta talk to, you know, talk 00:17:15 to your local people about, about getting that right for you. And we're gonna do a lot of testing still to come on tips. 00:17:21 We got several kind of tips. I, I'm, I'm guessing that that's been the biggest problem is getting the right tip. The product. I think you probably guys got figured out guys 00:17:30 like chasing all that problem. The product's not the issue. It's the actual coverage. It's the coverage and the speed you wanna run. 00:17:35 If you're on good flat ground, I mean, there's guys running 16, 17, 18 mile an hour. Okay, well, well a lot everybody can't run that. 00:17:42 So I can't say, oh, take this one tip and go spray because if you're set on 10 mile an hour, it don't work. Mm. When you're trying to run 20 mile an hour. 00:17:51 So you've gotta get in the ti the area, the speed that you can run, and then we gotta get in that parameter. So we need to be, we're shooting for anywhere from 20 00:18:00 to 28 PSI. Okay. That's your PSI dictates where you go. You start with PSI and backup up from there. Start with PSI then backup. 00:18:10 And that's where you start figuring ground. Yeah. That's ground speed. Ground speed and and tips are after PSI. 00:18:15 That's right. Well, when you get your Ps when you get that PSI, right? Then, you know, it's obvious. 00:18:20 Well the ground speeds, you know, so if you say, I can't run, but 10 to 12 mile an hour, then we work on your PSI backwards, you know, so it, 00:18:28 you know, it's just a few things that has to be done to get this right. And that's, it's, you know, 00:18:33 more than if you ain't gonna think it, but more than likely a tip is on your sprayer. That'll work. How about that? 00:18:38 So, because I'm using the same tips I was, but now I'm running 16 mile an hour s Yeah. You, so you don't think that 00:18:43 we're gonna have to go out and buy a bunch of new stuff to make this happen? We probably got the right tools, 00:18:46 we just gotta get it dialed in. Well, you got the right tools to start. How about that? And then you start dialing in like this bidirectional tip, 00:18:53 this thing is looking really good because you're spraying both sides of that thing. But then keep, and you know, man, I've been talking 00:18:58 to these tip guys and I had no idea, like you can get, let's say we got a double oh four tip. Okay, I'm using a red tip. 00:19:05 Well, there's three different red tips you can use on what size droplets. I was like, whoa, okay. 00:19:10 You know, it's, it's, it's astronomical. Hey, uh, chase, you've got Chad doing this and he's got somebody in another state doing this. 00:19:21 And then are you going around? Are you becoming the new preacher on this, telling everybody this is what they need to do. 00:19:25 Are you going, are you going around saying you need to do this, you need to do what I need to doing? Well, My approach has never changed. 00:19:31 I'm, I'm, you know, I'm the guy that's like, Hey, let's try it on your farm. Make sure it works. I'm, I'm not going around saying, Hey, 00:19:37 this is the way you gotta do this. This is the, the only way you can do this. Like, I'm, I'm the guy we're gonna try. 00:19:44 I mean, Chad knows as good as anybody. Me, I love, I love working with Chad Extreme ag because those guys wanna test it 00:19:49 and they're gonna test it and try to break it. And, and I like working with guys like that because we're gonna figure out somewhere down the 00:19:55 line, we screwed up somewhere. We, we made a mistake, we're gonna fix that mistake. So, you know, going forward we know, okay, 00:20:02 we did it this way this time, it didn't work. We can do it this way. Um, I took a, so this year, so when we're doing these tests on these, 00:20:09 on this low volume work, I don't have to beat the check. I need to be, I need to kill to be 00:20:17 as efficient as the check. And, and that's, you know, coming from a, coming from a spray application and, 00:20:25 and a plant nutrition company where we sell foliar and, and you know, when the, we're selling foliar, we wanna be better than the check when we're doing this 00:20:32 adjuvant testing with the herbicides and we're running slow volume work, I just need to be as good as the check because if I'm as good as the check, 00:20:39 the guy knows he's getting a great kill and he's being more effective managing time, managing money a lot better 00:20:46 because we're able to run this low volume work. He can get, he, he don't have to fill up as much during the day. 00:20:50 So that's kind of been the eye opening thing with me doing these tests and, and running this this year is, is we are seeing 00:20:57 as good a kill, if not better, versus, you know, 10 to 15 gallon work. I mean, it's been done across the 00:21:03 board in several different fields. We had a lot of layout ground this year too, here in McGee. And, and Matt has actually done some tests here 00:21:09 that I've actually been able to take some of the guys that I have here as customers, show 'em the field. And, uh, you know, that's, 00:21:15 that's been something they've said, I don't, you don't have to win this. You don't have to be, you need to be as good of a kill. 00:21:21 You know, you don't have to beat the check, so to speak like we do with this, this other stuff. Chad, do you think it matters, uh, by crop, by region? 00:21:29 What, what variation? There's, remember farmers love to say, well that'll work for Chad, but it doesn't work for me. 00:21:33 I'm trying to think of what this wouldn't work in. Um, maybe, uh, you could make the argument if you're going really late 00:21:40 season when there's a lot more foliage, you want to put in more water. Maybe you could make that argument. 00:21:45 But, but they do crop dusting out here. They still, they do crop dusting out here at the, you know, beginning of August. Just, 00:21:51 Just like any herbicide. Number one is no herbicide company or herbicide wants to go try 00:21:57 to kill a plant that's four feet tall. Mm-hmm. Period. Mm-hmm. Okay. When, when they get that big 00:22:02 that they've gotta weigh anyway, so, you know, well, I didn't get a kill. Well, I don't know why it's, 00:22:07 the dang plant is six feet tall. Yeah. You know, so, you know, you, you gotta keep your weeds, you need 00:22:12 to catch your weeds low, number one. Number two is, it's not about just six gallon work for eight gallon work. 00:22:17 It's, it's about what can you do on your farm to save time? My number's six because that's halfway where I was. 00:22:23 That's a 200 acre load. Johnny Burrell's number's five, uh, because of tank volume. He likes it. 240 acre load. Um, Matt Haney's number is five. 00:22:33 It's a thousand gallon tank, it's 200 acre load. It's, it's whatever you want to do on your farm. Say, Hey, you know what? I've been at 15 gallon, 00:22:39 I think I'm gonna go to eight. It would make all my batches work. Cool. That's fine. Well, I mean, it's, there's no magic number. 00:22:45 Just we we're saving time and saving water, you know, and there's gonna come a point in life that saving water's gonna matter. 00:22:52 Yeah. Right, right, right. Exactly. All right. His name's Chad Henderson and he is one of the founders of Extreme Ag. 00:22:59 He's joined by Chase Garner who is with Spray Tech. If you wanna learn more about Spray Tech, where do they go? Cha Chase, where do they go? 00:23:04 Spray tech usa.com. Spray tech USA And there's no, We're on all social media platforms too. So there's No h on the end of Spray Tech. 00:23:12 It's spray TTEC. That's right. We've also, uh, chase came here to the Grain, if you like, what we do here at Extreme Ag, 00:23:18 remember you should check out all of our other programming. Hundreds of episodes just like this. 00:23:22 Cutting the curve are for free at Extreme Mag Do Farm also videos that these guys shoot in the field. 00:23:27 Uh, Chad's always shooting videos out there. And those are short little educational moments that you can use all free 00:23:33 for you if you wanna take your learning to the next level. You can become an extreme Ag member, $750 a year. 00:23:38 You get direct access to guys like Chad. If you need to go a little more in depth on something, you get special offers from our vendors 00:23:43 and you also get the year end data, which is very, very valuable, worth more than the seven $50 you'll pay. Also, if you want to check out something really cool, 00:23:51 last year we started taping episodes of the Grainery, it's shot right here at my on-Farm Tavern with guys like Chase and Chad who have been here to record 00:23:59 and it's farm guys sitting around having a drink, talking about everything from the personal to the professional, everything in between. 00:24:05 So go check all that stuff out. In the meantime, say congratulations to Grandpa Chad Henderson, who just had another grand baby, uh, 00:24:13 from his, uh, from his son Jackson. Until next time, thanks for being here. That's Chase, that's Chad. I'm Damien Mason 00:24:17 with Extreme x Chad the curve. That's a wrap for this episode of Cutting the Curve. 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