Farming Podcast | Is Agriculture Cool? | XtremeAg
In this episode of the Cutting The Curve farming podcast, host Damian Mason joins Chad Henderson to unpack what defines the future of farming. They examine how Gen Z farming values, social media in farming, and tech-forward communication can reshape public perception and strengthen the agricultural workforce. Facing an aging farmer population and cultural disconnects, the conversation explores strategic ways to increase ag visibility, promote agriculture careers, and address agricultural workforce challenges. Tune in for practical insights that support long-term viability and future-focused outreach.
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"If we don’t tell the story of agriculture, someone else will — and we might not like how they tell it." – Damian Mason
Reframing the Farming Narrative
• Presents ag as tech-forward and innovative• Leverages storytelling to shift public opinion• Focuses on lifestyle, science, and impact
Gen Z Engagement Strategies
• Uses humor and authenticity to reach youth• Taps into social platforms for storytelling• Builds cultural relevance for the next gen
Workforce Pipeline and Succession
• Explores challenges of aging demographics• Calls for new recruitment models• Prioritizes labor sustainability long-term
Cultural Disconnects and Urban Misconceptions
• Dispels myths about modern farming• Offers strategies for urban-rural alignment• Highlights real examples of shifting views
This episode reinforces how modernizing agriculture’s image and message can secure the next era of productivity. Visibility, storytelling, and tech adoption are all key to ensuring the future of farming thrives.
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Increase Ag Visibility • Encourages authentic and strategic storytelling• Highlights farming’s innovation to broader audiences
Recruit Next-Gen Farmers • Connects with young values and media habits• Builds appeal around modern ag careers
Bridge Urban-Rural Divide • Fosters better understanding between communities• Uses social media to connect rural realities to cities
Promote Agriculture Careers • Frames farming as dynamic and purpose-driven• Challenges outdated stereotypes with real-world stories
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00:00 So Barbara Mandrell had the hit song about being country before country was cool. 00:00:04 That's been a few decades ago. Is country cool? And is agriculture a cool vocation? That's what I'm talking about with my friends. 00:00:12 The next dream ag That's right, the next generation of extreme ag they're joining me to talk about is agriculture. 00:00:18 Cool. This episode, special episode oft extreme ag cutting the curve. Welcome to Extreme ags Cutting the Curve podcast, 00:00:25 where real farmers share real insights and real results to help you improve your farming operation. This episode is brought to you by TIVA Court, 00:00:34 providing farmers with the most technologically advanced products and innovative ideas to meet their quest 00:00:40 for higher yields, top quality and maximum profit. Visit tiva corporation.com. And now here's your host, Damien Mason. 00:00:49 Hey there. Welcome to their fantastic episode and a special episode of Extreme Acts Cutting the Curve. I've got the next stream ag, as I call them. 00:00:55 These are the young guns, although admittedly, they're not as young as they once were. When I first joined these people, I'm working with them. 00:01:00 So a year ago we put out a special series for episodes sponsored by our friends at TIVA talking to the next generation of extreme ag. 00:01:08 Well, we're doing it again for cool episodes, talking about things from their perspective. Most of these folks are in their twenties. 00:01:15 A couple of 'em are now into their thirties. A couple of 'em have gotten married, had some kids. It's all about change. Well, right now I'm gonna ask them, 00:01:22 are you still excited to be in this business? Is agriculture still cool? We were recording an episode of the Grainery 00:01:28 and Temple Roads brought this up and he said, here's the deal. Country wasn't cool. Agriculture wasn't cool. 00:01:35 When we were young coming into it, you're almost embarrassed to say, I farm, but then all 00:01:39 of a sudden there's this country music renaissance. There's this whole new thing that it's cool to be an ag. I said, maybe it's just because things are really good 00:01:47 and ags making a lot of money a few years ago. Is that still the case? So I'm asking these folks, is country cool? 00:01:53 And more importantly, is agriculture still a cool place to be? Lane, we were just at your field day. 00:01:57 Seems like it was pretty cool. Is it a cool place to be? Yeah, I mean it, it, it seemed, I guess it'd be more, 00:02:04 you know, quote unquote trendy now. Uh, especially for people that were, you know, raised in the, in, in, in a rural area, 00:02:11 not necessarily in ag area. 'cause I know of several of my friends that have come from, you know, places over, over west of here that was all 00:02:19 pine and whatnot. Uh, everybody wants to kind of gather our way. Everybody wants to be in the Delta being some sort of 00:02:28 ag whether, whether or not it's in, uh, Helena or Greenpoint or, or any of those, you know, retail places. 00:02:34 It's, it's beginning to be a little bit more cool. Um, this year in particular, my opinion, it's not real cool because there, it, it's not, it's not, you know, 00:02:42 real good right now, but it's still, we still got the fire. We still got, you know, the, the, the place in our hearts 00:02:49 that we all love ag and try to make it better for everybody. I don't know if it's economically oriented. 00:02:55 It, it, it doesn't seem like it is. Jason Aldean sings about flying over flyover country, uh, and that's not even a new song. 00:03:02 I know that. Um, but it's newer. And the point is, I don't think he ever says, and look at all these people making money selling $9 00:03:09 corn over flyover country. It's more just like, it's the cool factor. So I guess it, it might have an economic component to it, 00:03:15 but it seems to me that ag is cool. Verne, I don't even know why I'm asking somebody. You're like 28 years old, 00:03:20 but you have the persona of a 68-year-old man. I don't even know why I'm asking you, but is AG cool for your generation? 00:03:28 You know, I feel like it's changed pretty recently. When I was in high school, I didn't feel like it was cool to be country. 00:03:34 Right. And nobody was really wearing their cowboy boots or anything like that to school. And then when I got to college, 00:03:40 which I was in a very agricultural college is when it felt like it was a lot more old people wearing their 00:03:45 flyers to class and stuff. I thought that was a little much. But, uh, since I got back home, 00:03:50 it seems like a lot more young people are more interested. They wanna work in ag, they wanna wear cowboy boots 00:03:56 and pearl snap shirts. And I, you know, I feel like it's changed pretty recently. And you can see that in country music too. 00:04:02 A lot more rappers and singer pop singers are coming into it too. So yeah, I would say it's getting cooler very quickly. I, 00:04:10 Beyonce became a blonde, a white woman who rides a horse and wears cowboy gear. 00:04:14 So something's going on. Uh, all right. Jackson? Yes, Jackson? I don't know, I don't know if you're the epitome of cool, 00:04:21 but you do drive a race car, so we'll give you that. Is ag cool? I think depending on where you're at, 00:04:27 is determining if ag is cool. You know, like, like where we're at in the city. You know, when I go down the road I get, I get told a lot. 00:04:38 I'm number one, you know. So I don't know if it's, if a lot of people, depending on where you're at, if you're in more a farming 00:04:44 location, I think, yeah, it is cool. But if you're more in the city where the city's overtaken you, I'm like, 00:04:48 I don't know if people actually look at farmers as a good thing anymore. You know? 00:04:53 So that thing is, it's, it's always been us that are in it. We're, we're in it. I remember being sort of embarrassed 00:04:59 and I remember, you know, and I'm from a rural, not not as rural as, uh, say where maybe Lane is, but, um, where, you know, I'm an FFA 00:05:09 and, uh, four H and a farm kid driving a farm truck to school or football games and like your buddies would kinda 00:05:16 wisecrack on you, Hey, you know, you, you didn't have time to clean up before you came to practice. 00:05:20 All that kind of stuff. It was, it was good hearted, it was that kind of thing. But you had a little bit, I had a little bit 00:05:25 of an embarrassment always about being, uh, you know, the ag kid I guess growing up. And I just think it, it's maybe not as much there 00:05:33 and I almost wonder if it's because there's fewer of us even now than there were 40 years ago when I was a kid. 00:05:39 And it's, it seems to have less of a, an embarrassment factor than it did. Danielle, you're sharp. What do you think you nod 00:05:46 your head over one of those things? So, I mean, I do think that there's definitely, like, it's coming around to be a more popular decision to be able 00:05:54 to ag, but I also think, you know, we hit a time during COVID where everybody was starting to realize where their food come from. 00:06:01 So I think ags getting more of a attention now. Yeah. Uh, people are paying attention to the details and now they're wanting to learn more about it. 00:06:09 And I think that's part of what is making it cool, is they're wanting to learn more about where their food's coming from. 00:06:14 I'd say that, that, that thing of six years ago, five years ago, when folks went to the grocery and there was like people fighting over toilet paper 00:06:22 and there was nothing, no meat available and, uh, canned goods. I don't know if that's what made ag cool, 00:06:28 but it sort of, um, gave a little appreciation. I mean, that'll wane over time, but we're still coasting a little bit on an appreciation of, 00:06:36 uh, of the food and, uh, food security, if you will. People got scared folks. Normal, normal main street, got a little scared. 00:06:42 Did accurate assessment. Definitely. All right. Caleb, you tell people, you walk in to a room, what do you do? 00:06:53 I work for something called Tiva. It's a family business. Oh. What do you do? Oh, we make products for agriculture. 00:06:58 Oh, you're the people that are poisoning our food. I mean, I don't know if that's really what happens or not, but, uh, well, 00:07:04 The, the, the number one joke is, oh, you make fertilizer seems like a crappy job, ev every time without fail. Uh, 00:07:11 Yeah. You know, I, I mean, I think it depends where you're at. Like Jackson was saying, I mean, we got, 00:07:15 we're down here in the boot hill, we got two towns that are within three miles of each other. And the one I went to school at absolutely farming was not, 00:07:24 you know, cool. They were all a bunch of hicks over there in the, the other town, you know, it was the, 00:07:30 the more agriculturally based town. And so, uh, it was, it's changed now. Uh, but that's, it was definitely the culture, you know, 00:07:38 15 years ago. And now, you know, COVID has definitely driven people, like you said, food security, thinking about it. 00:07:47 I have had more friends decide that they need to, uh, they need to start homesteading and do their own farming and do their own gardening and gotta get chickens 00:07:55 and rabbits and uh, to goat for milk and stuff. You know, I've had more of 'em talk about it in the last three years than I did the rest of my life. I gotta 00:08:03 Tell you that I, I, I'm sure there are a bunch of people my age that are doing that as well, but when I look at all these folks, I got two 00:08:09 of 'em at Stone Throw for me. 'cause I'm not that far outside of town, the five acre I want to be pretend farm 00:08:15 with chickens and all this. And they're your age. They're, I mean, they're not my age. They're like 30-year-old types and they're all into it. 00:08:22 So you talk about ag being cool, they're so cool. They're putting their money where their mouth is, at least. I mean, they still go to the grocery 00:08:28 and they'll say things like, I grow all my own food. And said, actually, that's not true. You, you produce two dozen eggs a week and some parsley. 00:08:35 Uh, but anyway, yeah, that's, that's a real thing right there, that whole homestead thing. Yeah, 00:08:39 I mean, my, my, one of my best friends, they just bought 11 acres and they're, his wife is convinced they're gonna get all 00:08:44 those animals I just listed. They're gonna get every single one of 'em. They have yet to realize 00:08:48 that they got three kiddos to keep up with. Yeah. Beyond, uh, beyond chickens and the goat and all that other stuff. But 00:08:54 They'll, they'll do it and they'll figure it out and they'll do an Awesome job at It. So Alexander, 00:08:57 it's definitely cool. Alexander's nodding his head, all right, here's the deal. We just went from, is AG cool to now this ideal, this 00:09:05 idealism of two, two chickens and a cow and, and, and, you know, straight out of like, uh, uh, a kid's ferry, you know, a children's book. 00:09:16 Yeah. So I mean, like, our, our, our high school, excuse me, um, we're all in a rural area. I mean, farmland all around it. 00:09:23 And, and kind of like what Danielle was saying with COVID kind of opened everybody's eyes, is like, you know, there was, people in my high school again, 00:09:29 we're surrounded by ag, surrounded by farm fields, and they had no idea what, you know, what was going on or a tractor or whatever. 00:09:36 Um, and I think it's not more of ag is cool, but the driving a tractor and like driving the equipment is 00:09:42 what they think is cool, I feel like around here. Um, but it's not, I was gonna say lifestyle. I think 00:09:47 it goes to Yeah, Felix, it's the ideal Yeah. The lifestyle. Yes. Yes, a hundred percent. 00:09:53 It's the idea of, oh, we get to drive tractors, we get to drive this big machinery, but that's like one third of the year, you know, 00:09:59 all the other time is turning wrenches and working on stuff and all that. So I think it's more of the idea of, 00:10:04 oh man, that looks cool. You know? And I think that's where the misconception comes in. Yeah. It's, it's, there's an ex there's an exuberance, 00:10:13 if you will, about the lifestyle or the perceived lifestyle, right? Yes. They, they, they don't realize 00:10:18 that actually Danielle's, uh, got a sick kid and she's trying to plant corn, holding a little kid around. That's, uh, and also 00:10:25 that the crop you're planting is probably gonna sell for just about exactly what you're paying to put it in the, the financial aspects of it 00:10:33 or the, uh, seasonal seasonality, stress, all that stuff does not fit the, it's like a country music song, but without the, without the getting arrested 00:10:43 and losing your house trailer. You know what I mean? Like, that's the other part of it they're excited about. 00:10:48 Yeah, absolutely. By the way, see, Caleb, that's funnier than fertilizer crappy job, isn't it? Right there. See, I just came up with that. All right. 00:10:58 So, uh, going back to my, uh, my starter here at Lane Lane, I, I think that when we heard Alexander who lives next door 00:11:05 to a metro area, and you obviously are in pretty far, uh, a sparsely populated rural area, 00:11:12 you think there's a difference? Do you think there's a difference? Because I almost think that Alexander's, uh, a little off, 00:11:18 or certainly even Jackson, he says he has people that resent them or whatever, 'cause you're holding up traffic or whatever. 00:11:23 I think that there's more urbanites and suburbanites that are pining for thinking ag is cool. Those of us that are living it great. 00:11:29 If you think it's cool, but I think that the, the, the suburban crowd is more enamored with this than, than sometimes even we are. 00:11:37 Yeah. Uh, I don't, I don't disagree. I mean, and and to your point that you, you had said earlier about, about being embarrassed of, 00:11:44 uh, being the ag kid. I was not one of the only ag kids, but there, there was several more that were not ag kids and 00:11:52 and most of the them didn't, they you didn't get made fun of, but everybody thought, oh, he's a farmer son. 00:11:57 You know, it was, it was a, you, you, you kind of tended to stay away from it kind of kept me from wanting to be 00:12:04 in it until I was 16 or 17 years old. Uh, but I I, I think in, in a rural area, it is, it's not like everybody wants to go, like Caleb said, 00:12:16 go, go get 'em a house with five acres and, you know, farm their chickens and their goats and all that to where the people that come outta the city, 00:12:23 all they, you know, that's all they wanna do when they get outta the city. They wanna be, they wanna be country. 00:12:28 I mean, and, and all of us down here, we're, we're from a big city. That's, that's more than of about 7,000 people. 00:12:36 We're an hour and 15 minutes from Yeah. No matter where you go. So everybody's country around here, uh, like, and I know Jackson's probably got friends in 00:12:46 Madison or, or whatever, and they absolutely have no idea or don't wanna have no idea about country or about farming, 00:12:54 but when they go out into the country, they go to Jackson's place. They're just in awe. You know, somebody comes to my house, 00:12:59 they, man, it is just, you know, they drive out every day. There are are there are funny things by the way that 00:13:06 the folks that would come to your farming property and the stuff that, that strikes them, that is completely, you don't even think about it. 00:13:13 Like the fact that you have gun, like you have firearms in your truck, uh, that there's a bunch of cats 00:13:19 and they're like, what's their name? Like, what, what the hell are you talking about? I didn't even know there was cats under the corn crib. 00:13:23 What are you talking about? You know, like, there's always that, that thing that's very different for us. 00:13:27 Um, do you think that it is cool for us, for the, for the long haul? Like, like those of us, 00:13:33 your generation has definitely embraced it more than mine because of some of the things I talked about. 00:13:38 And it could have an economic component to it. You know, people meet like Matt Temple, Chad, all of us, uh, Kevin, we, we came through when it was a really bad, 00:13:47 it was a bad place to be. We were really, really financially struggling. And then there came this whole renaissance of ags, 00:13:53 cool country music, everything like that. Is it have staying power, is ag gonna be cool? Caleb, you go first. Is ag gonna be cool five years from now 00:14:01 as it was the last five years? Uh, I think so. I think you're gonna see the COVID just opened everyone's eyes, 00:14:09 but it didn't keep the momentum going. The momentum is still there. People, uh, housewives, uh, people in the city, 00:14:15 they all are driving this mentality of they really care what's going into our food now and how it's going. 00:14:21 And so this movement of, you know, being stewards of the land is gonna become, I think it's going to stay pretty popular. 00:14:32 I don't see it going anywhere anytime soon. Jackson, Did Kendall marry you? Because she had this sort of, um, this fairy tale idea 00:14:40 that you find you a farm man. What's that one? She thinks my tractor's sexy. Is that what happened 00:14:47 For the race? For the race car that Draw her in? Alexander, you hearing that? Get yourself a race car? Yeah, I'm gonna try to, we'll see 00:14:58 what can we, we'll see what happens. We'll see what happens. Does country have staying power? 00:15:02 Is ag cool five years from now? When, alright, Vern, you had a little baby. When your kid's going, uh, what your kids, you know, 00:15:10 a a first grader, second grader, uh, he might want to be like dad because that's cool, but are the other kids in, in, uh, in 00:15:18 that generation gonna think ag is cool? Yeah, I think it's yet staying power. 'cause I think probably one of the things is as less 00:15:26 and less of the population is involved in farming, you know, there's a little distance from it 00:15:30 and you romanticize it more. So I think, you know, a couple generations ago, how, what percentage was versus now 00:15:36 that I think all these people think like my grandpa was a farmer, we don't do that anymore. 00:15:40 That would be a, a way like, 'cause it's something different. You're not working on nine to five. 00:15:43 You're, and you, you're tied to the land somewhat. I think, I Think I think you're accurate about that and, 00:15:48 and the romanticism of it. I wanted to be a cowboy when I was six. Uh, yeah, I had the boots anyway. 00:15:55 So, um, incidentally, you should have seen at the field day when Matt Miles took the stage and was picking on the Texas Todd Kimbrel 00:16:03 and this guy from Dow City, Iowa, who both run around their cowboy hats. He said, you might notice these 00:16:09 two guys in their cowboy hats. Just real quickly, how many horses do you have and how, how much, how often do you ride a horse? 00:16:16 Uh, it was funny. So Matt said, you know what he's gonna do in the future? He's just gonna show up at ag, extreme ag meetings wearing, 00:16:22 uh, a helmet and I'm gonna show up in leather chaps. And we're gonna say we just rode in. I mean, I love it In our, in our Ford Taurus, 00:16:30 we just rode in our Ford Taurus. We're gonna dress like bikers and actually drive a Ford Taurus. 00:16:35 Danielle, is ag Is ag gonna be cool when little, uh, wait, is it Barrett Bo Bo bo When bo when when Bo when Bo's when Bo's down 00:16:44 the road here is, is ag gonna be cool? I think it will be. I think it's definitely come back around is it's kind of skipped a few generations 00:16:53 and now it's starting to get back. Everybody wants to be involved in it. I think there's probably something to that. 00:17:00 All right, so my last, uh, couple thoughts here and, and I want hear from everybody on this. Before I do, I wanna remind you, this special 00:17:05 episode is brought to you by Tiva. Uh, TIVA AG is the website. If you wanna learn more about it real quickly, Caleb, 00:17:11 when someone says, all right, but it's on the hot, the crappy job thing. When you tell, when they say, what's Tiva ag? 00:17:15 Do you tell them? I tell 'em we work in, uh, in nutrition and fertility. We're the, the people that we, 00:17:22 we were doing this kind of farming before. It was cool. We've been doing it for 46 years now. Uh, the sustainable farming 00:17:28 or regenerative ag as it's being called now, you know, we've been in that lot for, for a long time. And so our job is to help you figure out 00:17:37 what you need to do on your operation. And that means sometimes I'm gonna have the answer. Sometimes I'm not gonna have the answer. 00:17:43 But we're gonna figure it out together, and we're gonna help you do the best you can on your operation. If 00:17:47 You're listening to this special episode of the Cutting the Curve with the next stream ag, meaning the next generation, uh, and you're listening, 00:17:54 or if you're watching right here, I just pulled up their website on my phone. It's tva tva ag TEVA tva ag.com. 00:18:00 No single product can solve your fertility problems. But a total fertility program can, you can find out more from Caleb is dad, mark 00:18:06 and the rest of the crew over there at TIVA Ag. All right, so Jackson, besides the race car, et cetera, et cetera, 00:18:13 when I think about ag being cool and what we go back to that question we asked in a previous episode about keeping the next generation in it, ag has to have the cool factor, 00:18:23 and I think it is a lifestyle that's gonna be the draw. I think we are gonna have some economic challenges moving ahead. 00:18:30 It seems to me, 'cause we recorded this a year ago and the economic picture has not improved since then. I think it's gonna have to retain its cool factor 00:18:38 to retain people that wanna be in it because it's probably not gonna be the huge economic draw. Is that seem, is that an accurate analysis? 00:18:46 I would say so. I mean, I'm, in the next 10 years, I'm excited to see where stuff is going with it. Technology Yeah. And everything that's coming out. 00:18:54 You know, seeing how far they can take equipment and what stuff does. So I'm, I mean, I, I think ag has no choice 00:19:00 but to be cool in the upcoming years. Caleb, I would say that Vern's right on that it's the romanticism and you know, like Danielle 00:19:08 or, uh, you know, Caleb's friends, your friends that want to have to them. 00:19:12 What's cool is the romantic vision of I'm out here, uh, you know, uh, in the country. And it's something like the, the Dutton boys on Yellowstone 00:19:21 and why the people in our industry think it's cool is completely the opposite. It's not about the romantic vision of, uh, uh, of, you know, 00:19:28 building campfires or split rail fences. It's about automated tractors. I agree with that. I mean, there's you, 00:19:37 how can you be excited about the same stuff when all you see is the surface level? You see the outside, you see 00:19:43 whoever country music star up there singing about their truck and their girl and all this, their beer and all this stuff. 00:19:49 I mean, there's a whole different level when you get inside of it. You know, they, we talked about earlier, they don't see the, 00:19:56 the other two thirds of the year, you know, but we do. And we're excited about all the stuff that's happening year round, all the stuff that's coming up. 00:20:04 Well, I have too, but I got a full confession. I've created my hobby farm out here because of that other stuff. 00:20:09 Uh, the trucks with firearms and beers and, uh, and making my own, uh, pickles. Really, that was it for me. 00:20:14 It's not about all the stuff that you guys are geeking out about Verne. What do you think? It was purely 00:20:19 about a lifestyle play for me. Yeah. The lifestyle's pretty good when it's, when it's going good. 00:20:24 Pretty bad. When it's going bad. Alexander, uh, you can peel off at any point, or Danielle, Danielle's got good stuff to say, by the way. 00:20:34 I remember what my 19 years old got my job at the factory. This kid that was from a, a town not from a farm background, 00:20:43 asked me which high school I went to. And I told him and I said, well, yeah. He says, I thought you went to such and such place 00:20:48 because, uh, you're a plow jock. Just like them plow jock. They're called a plow jock. My first day on a job with some kid from another county. 00:20:56 And I, I thought about smacking, but, uh, I'm telling you, it, it ag wasn't cool back then. Plow jock. Danielle, what do you got? 00:21:04 Oh, I don't think people call. I don't think there's much name calling anymore. I think they, they do mean tweets and meme, texting 00:21:10 and snapping, but I don't know if they like call, call out somebody from being a plow jock. Uh, on the first day of the job. 00:21:15 Everybody's a redneck. Damien. That's what it is. Everybody You forgot Hick. 00:21:19 Yeah. Or hick or whatever. If you're in the country, yeah, your hands are dirty. You're a hick and redneck and everything else. 00:21:26 I don't have to worry about that. Everybody's country and hicks around here. We'll just go to the Delta. Yeah, 00:21:33 You can come as far, you can come as far north as the boot hill. It's the same here until you, until you hit that, 00:21:37 those two hospitals in Cape. You're good. Yep. Danielle? Yes. I said you've got you. 00:21:46 I'm giving you, I'm giving you last go. Okay. You made me start. Well, I think you made me start with Lane, so we're finishing with you. 00:21:53 Okay. Um, I do think that it's gonna stay cool. I think it's definitely gonna have its ebbs and flows. 'cause the economy doesn't look great 00:22:00 for this year, as lane said. So for the ones of us that's in it pretty deep. I mean, there's still gonna be hard times, 00:22:07 but I don't think it's gonna lose the cool factor in there. And I think that the lifestyle that it creates for all 00:22:14 of us is what makes it cool for us. Like we get to do with our family. We get to continue to do what we love, 00:22:19 and we get to plant the crop and then harvest the same crop and see what, what we've grown that year, 00:22:26 what we've learned and what's changed Kind of into that romantic vision, which has got an actual basis in reality. 00:22:32 I mean, all romantic visions are supposed to have some basis in reality. They're not completely fairytales. 00:22:36 So to Vern's point, part of that thing is the self-sufficiency. Even though we know that with your five acres 00:22:42 and your organic rhubarb and your goat and your three chickens, you can't possibly be self-sustainable. 00:22:48 There's that romantic vision that I am doing this. That's really what I think. What that's that cool part of it. 00:22:54 They know it's b******t. They know, they know they're, they're still actually going to McDonald's, but it's the, the idea 00:23:02 that I'm out here doing this, I really think that's it. Right? That created something. Yeah. That and it's stuck in your blood. 00:23:08 Like that's something like, at least for around here, I know that's probably the same for you all, but like all the big 00:23:12 farmers around here, it's been from their grandfathers and their great-grandfathers and everybody that's, you know, 00:23:17 passed it down along the way. And that's just something you can't get outta your blood. Well, maybe even the small 00:23:23 farmers. I mean, obviously. Yeah. I mean, Yeah. Anybody, yeah. Yep. Yep. Cool. All right. I asked a question. Is ag cool? 00:23:29 Uh, I'm gonna let Caleb give us the wrap up here since he's the one that, uh, is paying 00:23:34 for this TIVA Corporation, TIVA Ag. That is, uh, last thought on ag coolness. On ag coolness. Are you, are you, are you, are your kids, 00:23:43 do they think you are cool for what you do, Uh, at, at two and a half and, uh, one on the way? No, I don't think she ever, she really has any concept. 00:23:54 The, the best I get is I come home filthy and she says Daddy's covered in fertilizer. Mm-hmm. And that's cool to me. 00:24:01 So I don't care if she thinks it's cool. I, I love it. And so, um, I think that she, as she gets older, uh, will appreciate that we, you know, what we do that we're, 00:24:11 that we're carrying on a, a legacy that we're, you know, we work hard. I don't know if she'll think that agriculture itself is 00:24:18 cool, but I think that she'll think the other aspects of what we do is, 00:24:23 Yeah, I think, I think the cool thing has some, uh, legs because there's still this, um, uh, healthy amount 00:24:30 of adoration or admiration for the industry. Like, uh, like in general, other than the wackos that think we're poisoning them or whatever. 00:24:37 In general, there's still sort of a, a wholesomeness and a, a level of, uh, healthy regard for the whole industry. 00:24:44 I have no fear that my daughter will grow up embarrassed of what we do. I'll, I'll put it that way. I think that she'll, 00:24:50 I don't think that she'll have to be like you were and kind of, you know, worried about what people think. I think that she'll be around, be able to go 00:24:57 tell her friends what daddy does and, and be proud of it. Yeah. And I, I mean, my biggest problem is, uh, 00:25:04 going back, uh, to when I was 19, Eric Shira, uh, I should have smacked him silly for calling me a plow jock, but I didn't. 00:25:11 But other than that, I mean, I have no problems with the whole, uh, the upbringing about ag being cool and not cool. 00:25:15 Anyway, this is a special edition of, uh, extreme ice, cutting the curve with the next stream ag. 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